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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.



Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.










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  • You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.



Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.










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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.



Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.










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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.



Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.







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  • You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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  • You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:



enter image description here



It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.



As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.






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    OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
    – pipe
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  • @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
    – MCG
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    "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
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    Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
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    "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
    – Wouter van Ooijen
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Figure 1. Vmax.



This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.



You have probably damaged the op-amp.






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  • Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
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  • I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
    – Transistor
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I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:




Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V




You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:



(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V


That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.






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    Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.



    enter image description here



    In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.






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      Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:



      enter image description here



      It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.



      As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.






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        OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
        – pipe
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      • @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
        – MCG
        11 hours ago






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        "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
        – pipe
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        Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
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        "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
        – Wouter van Ooijen
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      Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:



      enter image description here



      It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.



      As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.






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        OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
        – pipe
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      • @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
        – MCG
        11 hours ago






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        "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
        – pipe
        11 hours ago






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        Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
        – J...
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        "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
        – Wouter van Ooijen
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      Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:



      enter image description here



      It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.



      As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.






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      Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:



      enter image description here



      It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.



      As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.







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        OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
        – pipe
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      • @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
        – MCG
        11 hours ago






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        "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
        – pipe
        11 hours ago






      • 1




        Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
        – J...
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      • 1




        "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
        – Wouter van Ooijen
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      • 1




        OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
        – pipe
        11 hours ago










      • @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
        – MCG
        11 hours ago






      • 3




        "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
        – pipe
        11 hours ago






      • 1




        Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
        – J...
        6 hours ago








      • 1




        "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
        – Wouter van Ooijen
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      OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
      – pipe
      11 hours ago




      OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
      – pipe
      11 hours ago












      @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
      – MCG
      11 hours ago




      @pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
      – MCG
      11 hours ago




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      3




      "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
      – pipe
      11 hours ago




      "The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
      – pipe
      11 hours ago




      1




      1




      Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
      – J...
      6 hours ago






      Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
      – J...
      6 hours ago






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      "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
      – Wouter van Ooijen
      2 hours ago






      "You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
      – Wouter van Ooijen
      2 hours ago














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      enter image description here



      Figure 1. Vmax.



      This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.



      You have probably damaged the op-amp.






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      • Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
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      • I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
        – Transistor
        9 hours ago















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      enter image description here



      Figure 1. Vmax.



      This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.



      You have probably damaged the op-amp.






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      • Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
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      • I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
        – Transistor
        9 hours ago













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      enter image description here



      Figure 1. Vmax.



      This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.



      You have probably damaged the op-amp.






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      enter image description here



      Figure 1. Vmax.



      This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.



      You have probably damaged the op-amp.







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      • Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
        – user164567
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      • I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
        – Transistor
        9 hours ago


















      • Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
        – user164567
        11 hours ago












      • I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
        – Transistor
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      Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
      – user164567
      11 hours ago






      Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
      – user164567
      11 hours ago














      I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
      – Transistor
      9 hours ago




      I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
      – Transistor
      9 hours ago










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      I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:




      Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V




      You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
      Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:



      (15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V


      That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.






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        up vote
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        I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:




        Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V




        You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
        Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:



        (15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V


        That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.






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          up vote
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          down vote









          I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:




          Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V




          You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
          Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:



          (15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V


          That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.






          share|improve this answer












          I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:




          Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V




          You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
          Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:



          (15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V


          That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.







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              Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.



              enter image description here



              In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.






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                Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.



                enter image description here



                In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.






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                  Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.



                  enter image description here



                  In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.






                  share|improve this answer












                  Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.



                  enter image description here



                  In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.







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