Am I exceeding the maximum ratings?
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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.
Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.
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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.
Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.
Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.
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I'm using LMC6482 opamp with +/-15V rail voltages and having weird behavior. This means Vcc is +15V and Vee is -15V in my case.
Am I exceeding the specs? The jargon in the datasheet is not clear or should I say I'm not familiar with it.
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
– StainlessSteelRat
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
– StainlessSteelRat
7 hours ago
You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
– StainlessSteelRat
7 hours ago
You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
– StainlessSteelRat
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Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:

It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.
As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.
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OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
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Figure 1. Vmax.
This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.
You have probably damaged the op-amp.
Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
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I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:
Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V
You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:
(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V
That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.
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Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.

In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.
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Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:

It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.
As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.
1
OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
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up vote
16
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Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:

It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.
As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.
1
OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
16
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up vote
16
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Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:

It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.
As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.
Yes, you are exceeding the specs. Look at table 6.1 of the DATASHEET on page 3:

It clearly states the maximum difference between the V+ and V- pins is 16V. This means you can have +8V and -8V, as the difference is 16V.
As you have it right now, your difference is 30V, which is almost double the maximum ratings. Chances are, you have damaged the op-amp and it will need to be replaced. You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings of any IC you are using if you are worried. If you can, try and be within the maximum, so +7.5V and -7.5V would work nicely here, for a total of 15V supply.
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answered 11 hours ago
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OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
1
OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
1
1
OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
OP did check the maximum ratings, but was confused. And it seems to be guaranteed to function well for a 15 volt supply, so ±7.5 would be nice.
– pipe
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
@pipe Where did OP say they did check the ratings? I must have missed that? And yes, ±7.5 would be a bit nicer! I'll change it!
– MCG
11 hours ago
3
3
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
"The jargon in the datasheet is not clear" sounds to me like he actually read it but did not understand it.
– pipe
11 hours ago
1
1
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
Also worth noting that the chip is designed for a nominal supply voltage of 3V, 5V, or 15V. 16V is the absolute maximum but it should not be the design voltage. We never design to absolute maximums - we usually design with safety margins specifically to avoid them.
– J...
6 hours ago
1
1
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
"You should ALWAYS check the maximum ratings" - NO NO NO. You should check the (recommended) operating conditions! Please don't point anyone (especially not newbies) at the absolute maxima.
– Wouter van Ooijen
2 hours ago
|
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Figure 1. Vmax.
This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.
You have probably damaged the op-amp.
Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
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Figure 1. Vmax.
This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.
You have probably damaged the op-amp.
Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
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Figure 1. Vmax.
This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.
You have probably damaged the op-amp.

Figure 1. Vmax.
This line of the datasheet is stating that the maximum voltage difference between V+ and V- is 16 V.
You have probably damaged the op-amp.
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Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
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Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
Oh I thought it is +16 to -16. :(( And it is damaged yes it doesn't function as it supposed to.
– user164567
11 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
I've never seen it written that way before but I take it to mean you can run it 0/16V or -16/0 V or -5/+5 or any other combination provided that it's 16 V max from one to the other. Sorry for your loss!
– Transistor
9 hours ago
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I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:
Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V
You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:
(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V
That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.
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up vote
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I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:
Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V
You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:
(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V
That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.
add a comment |
up vote
3
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up vote
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I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:
Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V
You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:
(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V
That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.
I read your question as "yes I've read the datasheet, but its unclear". So let's address how to read the supply voltage range specification as the manufacturer Texas Instruments write it in their original product data sheet:
Supply Voltage (V+ - V-)... MAX 16V
You have a V+ of 15V and a V- of -15V.
Now we use the formula from the data sheet and get:
(15 - (-15)) = 15 + 15 = 30V
That's the way to interpret this voltage range specification. So yes, you are exceeding specified maximum supply voltage range by 14V.
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Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.

In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.

In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.
add a comment |
up vote
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up vote
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Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.

In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.
Other answers mentione the asbsolute maximum ratings, which is NOT what youy should look for when designing a functional system. Instead, you should use the recommended operating conditions. In this case, those specify 15.5V.

In your case, you could check the absolute maxima to find out whether your chip had a chance of survival. As others have pointed out, that is not the case.
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You could do 15V and 0V, but that probably won't meet your needs.
– StainlessSteelRat
7 hours ago