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My suggestion would be that you select a point on the asteroid to act as a pole. Perhaps the point of first landing? Then, using that point and asteroid's centre of gravity as references, you can map spherical coordinates.






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    This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
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  • How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
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Whoever is going to be on that asteroid will necessarily used radio communication to keep in contact with the rest of the crew.



To ensure communication a network of antennas has to be established, since a single antenna could at best serve half of the asteroid.



Each position can then be simply referred to the distance from the (closest) antennas.






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    My suggestion would be that you select a point on the asteroid to act as a pole. Perhaps the point of first landing? Then, using that point and asteroid's centre of gravity as references, you can map spherical coordinates.






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      This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
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    My suggestion would be that you select a point on the asteroid to act as a pole. Perhaps the point of first landing? Then, using that point and asteroid's centre of gravity as references, you can map spherical coordinates.






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      This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
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    • How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
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    My suggestion would be that you select a point on the asteroid to act as a pole. Perhaps the point of first landing? Then, using that point and asteroid's centre of gravity as references, you can map spherical coordinates.






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    My suggestion would be that you select a point on the asteroid to act as a pole. Perhaps the point of first landing? Then, using that point and asteroid's centre of gravity as references, you can map spherical coordinates.







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      This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
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    • How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
      – Cadence
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      This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
      – JBH
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    • How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
      – Cadence
      12 mins ago








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    This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
    – JBH
    1 hour ago






    This is the only option. The details may vary: such as using geostationary satelites, but because astroids don't have poles and their arbitrary rotation makes external (independent of the asteroid) references almost meaningless, picking a point and pounding in the proverbial survey stake is all you can do to guarantee a predictable solution. Consider the Paris Meridian.
    – JBH
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    How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
    – Cadence
    12 mins ago




    How well do spherical coordinates map to an asteroid that isn't necessarily spherical? Many of them are pretty substantially "squished" in one direction or another.
    – Cadence
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    Whoever is going to be on that asteroid will necessarily used radio communication to keep in contact with the rest of the crew.



    To ensure communication a network of antennas has to be established, since a single antenna could at best serve half of the asteroid.



    Each position can then be simply referred to the distance from the (closest) antennas.






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      Whoever is going to be on that asteroid will necessarily used radio communication to keep in contact with the rest of the crew.



      To ensure communication a network of antennas has to be established, since a single antenna could at best serve half of the asteroid.



      Each position can then be simply referred to the distance from the (closest) antennas.






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        Whoever is going to be on that asteroid will necessarily used radio communication to keep in contact with the rest of the crew.



        To ensure communication a network of antennas has to be established, since a single antenna could at best serve half of the asteroid.



        Each position can then be simply referred to the distance from the (closest) antennas.






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        Whoever is going to be on that asteroid will necessarily used radio communication to keep in contact with the rest of the crew.



        To ensure communication a network of antennas has to be established, since a single antenna could at best serve half of the asteroid.



        Each position can then be simply referred to the distance from the (closest) antennas.







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