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The perimeter of a right-angled triangle is 4 times the shorter side. Find the ratio of other sides ??
I tried approaching it this way .
Let's have a triangle ABC right angled at B and BC=x .Then P=5x and on adding the three sides AB+AC=4x.But couldn't move after this as how to get ratios.










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    Whenever I see a right angled triangle I immediately assume a ratio of 3,4,5 Which often works out. Of course if you have to show your working don't do this.
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The perimeter of a right-angled triangle is 4 times the shorter side. Find the ratio of other sides ??
I tried approaching it this way .
Let's have a triangle ABC right angled at B and BC=x .Then P=5x and on adding the three sides AB+AC=4x.But couldn't move after this as how to get ratios.










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The perimeter of a right-angled triangle is 4 times the shorter side. Find the ratio of other sides ??
I tried approaching it this way .
Let's have a triangle ABC right angled at B and BC=x .Then P=5x and on adding the three sides AB+AC=4x.But couldn't move after this as how to get ratios.










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The perimeter of a right-angled triangle is 4 times the shorter side. Find the ratio of other sides ??
I tried approaching it this way .
Let's have a triangle ABC right angled at B and BC=x .Then P=5x and on adding the three sides AB+AC=4x.But couldn't move after this as how to get ratios.







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    Whenever I see a right angled triangle I immediately assume a ratio of 3,4,5 Which often works out. Of course if you have to show your working don't do this.
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    Whenever I see a right angled triangle I immediately assume a ratio of 3,4,5 Which often works out. Of course if you have to show your working don't do this.
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Whenever I see a right angled triangle I immediately assume a ratio of 3,4,5 Which often works out. Of course if you have to show your working don't do this.
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Whenever I see a right angled triangle I immediately assume a ratio of 3,4,5 Which often works out. Of course if you have to show your working don't do this.
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Read yourself : "perimeter is 4 times the shorter side .... P = 5 x". Can you see the illogic point ? You can add "lengths" in your sentences too.



My hint is : you have not deduced anything from the specific property "right angle triangle".






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    Take it easy. You are both new and unpracticed here. Your $answer$ might have been better posted as a comment. Asis, you are open to losing reputation if anyone thinks your answer is not useful.
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Let the sides be $a,b,c$ such that:
$$begin{cases}4a=a+b+c \ a^2+b^2=c^2 end{cases} Rightarrow begin{cases}9a^2=b^2+2bc+c^2 \ 9a^2=9c^2-9b^2end{cases} Rightarrow 10b^2+2bc-8c^2=0 Rightarrow \
5left(frac bcright)^2+frac bc-4=0 Rightarrow frac bc=frac{-1+9}{10}=frac45.$$






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    One approach could start with $4A=A+B+C$. Subracting $A$ from both sides, we get $3A=B+C$. Also $A^2+B^2=C^2$ so $A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}$.



    Now $$A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}=frac{B+C}{3}$$



    $$A^2=C^2-B^2=frac{C^2+2CB+B^2}{9}$$
    so
    $$9C^2-9B^2=C^2+2CB+B^2$$ subtracting the right side from both sides
    $$8C^2+2CB-10B^2=0$$
    $$4C^2+BC-5B^2=0$$



    Perhaps you could work it out algebraically using the quadratic formula to solve for either C but I noticed the smallest Pythagorean triplet has sides of $3,4,5$ and, since $$Perimeter=3+4+5=12=4*3(theshortest side)$$ I think you have your ratios.






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      Read yourself : "perimeter is 4 times the shorter side .... P = 5 x". Can you see the illogic point ? You can add "lengths" in your sentences too.



      My hint is : you have not deduced anything from the specific property "right angle triangle".






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        Take it easy. You are both new and unpracticed here. Your $answer$ might have been better posted as a comment. Asis, you are open to losing reputation if anyone thinks your answer is not useful.
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      Read yourself : "perimeter is 4 times the shorter side .... P = 5 x". Can you see the illogic point ? You can add "lengths" in your sentences too.



      My hint is : you have not deduced anything from the specific property "right angle triangle".






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        Take it easy. You are both new and unpracticed here. Your $answer$ might have been better posted as a comment. Asis, you are open to losing reputation if anyone thinks your answer is not useful.
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      Read yourself : "perimeter is 4 times the shorter side .... P = 5 x". Can you see the illogic point ? You can add "lengths" in your sentences too.



      My hint is : you have not deduced anything from the specific property "right angle triangle".






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      My hint is : you have not deduced anything from the specific property "right angle triangle".







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      Let the sides be $a,b,c$ such that:
      $$begin{cases}4a=a+b+c \ a^2+b^2=c^2 end{cases} Rightarrow begin{cases}9a^2=b^2+2bc+c^2 \ 9a^2=9c^2-9b^2end{cases} Rightarrow 10b^2+2bc-8c^2=0 Rightarrow \
      5left(frac bcright)^2+frac bc-4=0 Rightarrow frac bc=frac{-1+9}{10}=frac45.$$






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        $$begin{cases}4a=a+b+c \ a^2+b^2=c^2 end{cases} Rightarrow begin{cases}9a^2=b^2+2bc+c^2 \ 9a^2=9c^2-9b^2end{cases} Rightarrow 10b^2+2bc-8c^2=0 Rightarrow \
        5left(frac bcright)^2+frac bc-4=0 Rightarrow frac bc=frac{-1+9}{10}=frac45.$$






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          $$begin{cases}4a=a+b+c \ a^2+b^2=c^2 end{cases} Rightarrow begin{cases}9a^2=b^2+2bc+c^2 \ 9a^2=9c^2-9b^2end{cases} Rightarrow 10b^2+2bc-8c^2=0 Rightarrow \
          5left(frac bcright)^2+frac bc-4=0 Rightarrow frac bc=frac{-1+9}{10}=frac45.$$






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          Let the sides be $a,b,c$ such that:
          $$begin{cases}4a=a+b+c \ a^2+b^2=c^2 end{cases} Rightarrow begin{cases}9a^2=b^2+2bc+c^2 \ 9a^2=9c^2-9b^2end{cases} Rightarrow 10b^2+2bc-8c^2=0 Rightarrow \
          5left(frac bcright)^2+frac bc-4=0 Rightarrow frac bc=frac{-1+9}{10}=frac45.$$







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              One approach could start with $4A=A+B+C$. Subracting $A$ from both sides, we get $3A=B+C$. Also $A^2+B^2=C^2$ so $A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}$.



              Now $$A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}=frac{B+C}{3}$$



              $$A^2=C^2-B^2=frac{C^2+2CB+B^2}{9}$$
              so
              $$9C^2-9B^2=C^2+2CB+B^2$$ subtracting the right side from both sides
              $$8C^2+2CB-10B^2=0$$
              $$4C^2+BC-5B^2=0$$



              Perhaps you could work it out algebraically using the quadratic formula to solve for either C but I noticed the smallest Pythagorean triplet has sides of $3,4,5$ and, since $$Perimeter=3+4+5=12=4*3(theshortest side)$$ I think you have your ratios.






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                One approach could start with $4A=A+B+C$. Subracting $A$ from both sides, we get $3A=B+C$. Also $A^2+B^2=C^2$ so $A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}$.



                Now $$A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}=frac{B+C}{3}$$



                $$A^2=C^2-B^2=frac{C^2+2CB+B^2}{9}$$
                so
                $$9C^2-9B^2=C^2+2CB+B^2$$ subtracting the right side from both sides
                $$8C^2+2CB-10B^2=0$$
                $$4C^2+BC-5B^2=0$$



                Perhaps you could work it out algebraically using the quadratic formula to solve for either C but I noticed the smallest Pythagorean triplet has sides of $3,4,5$ and, since $$Perimeter=3+4+5=12=4*3(theshortest side)$$ I think you have your ratios.






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                  One approach could start with $4A=A+B+C$. Subracting $A$ from both sides, we get $3A=B+C$. Also $A^2+B^2=C^2$ so $A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}$.



                  Now $$A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}=frac{B+C}{3}$$



                  $$A^2=C^2-B^2=frac{C^2+2CB+B^2}{9}$$
                  so
                  $$9C^2-9B^2=C^2+2CB+B^2$$ subtracting the right side from both sides
                  $$8C^2+2CB-10B^2=0$$
                  $$4C^2+BC-5B^2=0$$



                  Perhaps you could work it out algebraically using the quadratic formula to solve for either C but I noticed the smallest Pythagorean triplet has sides of $3,4,5$ and, since $$Perimeter=3+4+5=12=4*3(theshortest side)$$ I think you have your ratios.






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                  One approach could start with $4A=A+B+C$. Subracting $A$ from both sides, we get $3A=B+C$. Also $A^2+B^2=C^2$ so $A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}$.



                  Now $$A=sqrt{C^2-B^2}=frac{B+C}{3}$$



                  $$A^2=C^2-B^2=frac{C^2+2CB+B^2}{9}$$
                  so
                  $$9C^2-9B^2=C^2+2CB+B^2$$ subtracting the right side from both sides
                  $$8C^2+2CB-10B^2=0$$
                  $$4C^2+BC-5B^2=0$$



                  Perhaps you could work it out algebraically using the quadratic formula to solve for either C but I noticed the smallest Pythagorean triplet has sides of $3,4,5$ and, since $$Perimeter=3+4+5=12=4*3(theshortest side)$$ I think you have your ratios.







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