Changing open and compact sets in regular measure definition












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The definition of outer regular and inner regular measures:



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = inf_{U textrm{ open}} {mu(U): U supseteq E}
end{equation}
$



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = sup_{U textrm{ compact}} {mu(U): U subseteq E}.
end{equation}$



What happened if I change open and compact sets in these definitions?



Example: Let $mu1$ be a Lebesgue measure on $mathbb{R^1}$.
Only open subset of $E1 = [0,1] cap mathbb{Q}$ is {$emptyset$}, maximal closed set is $[0,1]$. The set $E2 = [0,1]setminus mathbb{Q}$.
Both have the same properties - Only open is {$emptyset$} and max. closed set is $[0,1]$. But $mu1 = 0$ and $mu2 = 1$.



How can I interpret this result? Is there a theorem?










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    If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
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    – Matematleta
    Dec 17 '18 at 16:09
















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$begingroup$


The definition of outer regular and inner regular measures:



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = inf_{U textrm{ open}} {mu(U): U supseteq E}
end{equation}
$



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = sup_{U textrm{ compact}} {mu(U): U subseteq E}.
end{equation}$



What happened if I change open and compact sets in these definitions?



Example: Let $mu1$ be a Lebesgue measure on $mathbb{R^1}$.
Only open subset of $E1 = [0,1] cap mathbb{Q}$ is {$emptyset$}, maximal closed set is $[0,1]$. The set $E2 = [0,1]setminus mathbb{Q}$.
Both have the same properties - Only open is {$emptyset$} and max. closed set is $[0,1]$. But $mu1 = 0$ and $mu2 = 1$.



How can I interpret this result? Is there a theorem?










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  • $begingroup$
    If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
    $endgroup$
    – Matematleta
    Dec 17 '18 at 16:09














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$begingroup$


The definition of outer regular and inner regular measures:



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = inf_{U textrm{ open}} {mu(U): U supseteq E}
end{equation}
$



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = sup_{U textrm{ compact}} {mu(U): U subseteq E}.
end{equation}$



What happened if I change open and compact sets in these definitions?



Example: Let $mu1$ be a Lebesgue measure on $mathbb{R^1}$.
Only open subset of $E1 = [0,1] cap mathbb{Q}$ is {$emptyset$}, maximal closed set is $[0,1]$. The set $E2 = [0,1]setminus mathbb{Q}$.
Both have the same properties - Only open is {$emptyset$} and max. closed set is $[0,1]$. But $mu1 = 0$ and $mu2 = 1$.



How can I interpret this result? Is there a theorem?










share|cite|improve this question









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The definition of outer regular and inner regular measures:



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = inf_{U textrm{ open}} {mu(U): U supseteq E}
end{equation}
$



$begin{equation}
mu(E) = sup_{U textrm{ compact}} {mu(U): U subseteq E}.
end{equation}$



What happened if I change open and compact sets in these definitions?



Example: Let $mu1$ be a Lebesgue measure on $mathbb{R^1}$.
Only open subset of $E1 = [0,1] cap mathbb{Q}$ is {$emptyset$}, maximal closed set is $[0,1]$. The set $E2 = [0,1]setminus mathbb{Q}$.
Both have the same properties - Only open is {$emptyset$} and max. closed set is $[0,1]$. But $mu1 = 0$ and $mu2 = 1$.



How can I interpret this result? Is there a theorem?







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  • $begingroup$
    If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
    $endgroup$
    – Matematleta
    Dec 17 '18 at 16:09


















  • $begingroup$
    If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
    $endgroup$
    – Matematleta
    Dec 17 '18 at 16:09
















$begingroup$
If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
Dec 17 '18 at 16:09




$begingroup$
If $E$ is unbounded and $mathbb R$ has the standard topology, your new definition won't make sense
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
Dec 17 '18 at 16:09










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