Why is number of real characters mod $q$ a multiplicative function?
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Let $R(q)$ be the number of real characters mod $q$. A character $chi mod q$ is called real if $chi(a)inmathbb{R}$ for every $ain mathbb{Z}$, which means $chi(a)in{-1,1}$ for every $ainmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,q)=1$.
I want to show that this $R$ is multiplicative, so $R(ab)=R(a)R(b)$ for $a,binmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,b)=1$. I'm trying to prove this with induced characters, but I'm not getting it completely. Can someone help me to understand it? Thanks!
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Let $R(q)$ be the number of real characters mod $q$. A character $chi mod q$ is called real if $chi(a)inmathbb{R}$ for every $ain mathbb{Z}$, which means $chi(a)in{-1,1}$ for every $ainmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,q)=1$.
I want to show that this $R$ is multiplicative, so $R(ab)=R(a)R(b)$ for $a,binmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,b)=1$. I'm trying to prove this with induced characters, but I'm not getting it completely. Can someone help me to understand it? Thanks!
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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Let $R(q)$ be the number of real characters mod $q$. A character $chi mod q$ is called real if $chi(a)inmathbb{R}$ for every $ain mathbb{Z}$, which means $chi(a)in{-1,1}$ for every $ainmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,q)=1$.
I want to show that this $R$ is multiplicative, so $R(ab)=R(a)R(b)$ for $a,binmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,b)=1$. I'm trying to prove this with induced characters, but I'm not getting it completely. Can someone help me to understand it? Thanks!
analytic-number-theory characters
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Let $R(q)$ be the number of real characters mod $q$. A character $chi mod q$ is called real if $chi(a)inmathbb{R}$ for every $ain mathbb{Z}$, which means $chi(a)in{-1,1}$ for every $ainmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,q)=1$.
I want to show that this $R$ is multiplicative, so $R(ab)=R(a)R(b)$ for $a,binmathbb{Z}$ with gcd$(a,b)=1$. I'm trying to prove this with induced characters, but I'm not getting it completely. Can someone help me to understand it? Thanks!
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
$endgroup$
– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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Do you mean number of irreducible real characters? Also, how would induced characters help?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:37
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@A.Pongrácz not specifically irreducible.. Also, I thought, characters mod $ab$ might be induced by characters mod $a$ and mod $b$? Not sure if this could help
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:43
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There are infinitely many real characters $pmod q$ for every $q$. E.g., any positive integer multiple of the trivial character is a real character. (Check out the definition of a character again.) I believe you want to talk about irreducible characters.
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:45
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@A.Pongrácz I think we only consider irreducible characters then in my course! :)
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– jbuser430
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47
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It seems to me that you are also using the word "induced character" in a loose sense. Mind that it has a meaning. How would you "induce" a(n irreducible!) character of $ab$ from a(n irreducible!) character of $a$ and one of $b$?
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– A. Pongrácz
Dec 30 '18 at 20:47