How to find the angle $x$ using the law of sines?
I'm trying to find the angle $x$ using the law of sines. The equalities I found are given below
$$dfrac{sin (16)}{|AD|} = dfrac{sin (x)}{|AB|} tag{1}$$
$$ dfrac{sin (14)}{|DC|} = dfrac{sin (14)}{|DB|} = dfrac{sin (152)}{|BC|}tag{2}$$
Could you assist me to take it from there?
geometry trigonometry triangle
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I'm trying to find the angle $x$ using the law of sines. The equalities I found are given below
$$dfrac{sin (16)}{|AD|} = dfrac{sin (x)}{|AB|} tag{1}$$
$$ dfrac{sin (14)}{|DC|} = dfrac{sin (14)}{|DB|} = dfrac{sin (152)}{|BC|}tag{2}$$
Could you assist me to take it from there?
geometry trigonometry triangle
You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59
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I'm trying to find the angle $x$ using the law of sines. The equalities I found are given below
$$dfrac{sin (16)}{|AD|} = dfrac{sin (x)}{|AB|} tag{1}$$
$$ dfrac{sin (14)}{|DC|} = dfrac{sin (14)}{|DB|} = dfrac{sin (152)}{|BC|}tag{2}$$
Could you assist me to take it from there?
geometry trigonometry triangle
I'm trying to find the angle $x$ using the law of sines. The equalities I found are given below
$$dfrac{sin (16)}{|AD|} = dfrac{sin (x)}{|AB|} tag{1}$$
$$ dfrac{sin (14)}{|DC|} = dfrac{sin (14)}{|DB|} = dfrac{sin (152)}{|BC|}tag{2}$$
Could you assist me to take it from there?
geometry trigonometry triangle
geometry trigonometry triangle
edited Nov 28 '18 at 19:16
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You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59
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You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59
You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59
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Let $|BC|=a, |AB|=c, |AC|=b,$ and $|BD|=|CD|=d.$ In $triangle BDC,$ we have$$
begin{align}
{sin152^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin(180^circ-28^circ)over a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin28^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{2sin14^circcos14^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
a&=2dcos14^circtag{1}
end{align}$$
We see that $angle A = 104^circ,$ so in $triangle ABC,$ we have $$
begin{align}
{sin104^circover a}&={sin30^circover b}\
{sin(90^circ+14^circ)over a} &= {1over2b}\
{cos14^circover a}&={1over2b}\
a&=2bcos14^circtag{2}
end{align}$$
Comparing $(1)$ and $(2),$ we have $b=d.$
That means that $triangle ADC$ is isosceles, and it's easy to work out the angles around point $D.$ I get $x=134^circ$ (on the second try, thanks to Lance.)
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
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$$BDC=180-2(14)=152tag{*},$$
$$frac{sin(30)}{AC}=frac{sin(46)}{AB}tag{1},$$
$$frac{sin(x)}{AB}=frac{sin(16)}{AD}tag{2},$$
and by (*),
$$frac{sin(208-x)}{AC}=frac{sin(32)}{AD}tag{3}$$
$$overset{text{by }(2)}impliessin(x)=sin(16)frac{AB}{AD}overset{text{by }(1)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{AC}{AD}overset{text{by }(3)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{sin(208-x)}{sin(32)}.$$
Now apply $sin(x-y)=sin xcos y-cos xsin y$ to obtain
$$sin(x)=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{cos(x)sin(208)-cos(208)sin(x)}{sin(32)}.$$
$$sin(x)left(1+frac{sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}right)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}cos(x).$$
Hence,
$$tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)},$$
which gives $x=-46implies x=-46+180=134$.
- All arguments in degrees.
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great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
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OK. Sine law only approach.
WLOG, let $|AB|=1$.
$sin x=cfrac {sin 16^circ}{|AD|}$
$cfrac{|AD|}{sin 32^circ}=cfrac {|AC|}{sin(360^circ-x-152^circ)}$
$|AC|=cfrac {sin 30^circ}{sin 46^circ}$
From above, we have
$sin x=cfrac{sin 16^circ sin(-x-152^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ sin30^circ}=cfrac{2sin 16^circ sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ }=cfrac{sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{cos 16^circ } tag 1$
expand $sin 46^circ$ doesn't seem to give any neat equation. Anyway, paul's solution is neat and insightful, except there is a minor arithmetic issue. Final result should be $x=134^circ$.
I got stuck here until I realized how to solve this from solving a similar problem.
$(1)iff cfrac{sin x}{sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ}{sin 74^circ} iff cfrac{sin x+sin (x-28^circ)}{sin x-sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ+sin 74^circ}{sin 46^circ-sin 74^circ}$
$iff cfrac{2sin(x-14^circ)cos 14^circ}{2cos(x-14^circ)sin 14^circ}=cfrac{2sin 60^circcos 14^circ}{2cos 60^circsin(-14^circ)}$
$iff tan (x-14^circ)=-tan 60^circ=tan 120^circ$
$iff x-14^circ=120^circ iff x=134^circ$
It's implicit that $0<x<180^circ$
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
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Let $|BC|=a, |AB|=c, |AC|=b,$ and $|BD|=|CD|=d.$ In $triangle BDC,$ we have$$
begin{align}
{sin152^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin(180^circ-28^circ)over a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin28^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{2sin14^circcos14^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
a&=2dcos14^circtag{1}
end{align}$$
We see that $angle A = 104^circ,$ so in $triangle ABC,$ we have $$
begin{align}
{sin104^circover a}&={sin30^circover b}\
{sin(90^circ+14^circ)over a} &= {1over2b}\
{cos14^circover a}&={1over2b}\
a&=2bcos14^circtag{2}
end{align}$$
Comparing $(1)$ and $(2),$ we have $b=d.$
That means that $triangle ADC$ is isosceles, and it's easy to work out the angles around point $D.$ I get $x=134^circ$ (on the second try, thanks to Lance.)
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
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Let $|BC|=a, |AB|=c, |AC|=b,$ and $|BD|=|CD|=d.$ In $triangle BDC,$ we have$$
begin{align}
{sin152^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin(180^circ-28^circ)over a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin28^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{2sin14^circcos14^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
a&=2dcos14^circtag{1}
end{align}$$
We see that $angle A = 104^circ,$ so in $triangle ABC,$ we have $$
begin{align}
{sin104^circover a}&={sin30^circover b}\
{sin(90^circ+14^circ)over a} &= {1over2b}\
{cos14^circover a}&={1over2b}\
a&=2bcos14^circtag{2}
end{align}$$
Comparing $(1)$ and $(2),$ we have $b=d.$
That means that $triangle ADC$ is isosceles, and it's easy to work out the angles around point $D.$ I get $x=134^circ$ (on the second try, thanks to Lance.)
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
|
show 7 more comments
Let $|BC|=a, |AB|=c, |AC|=b,$ and $|BD|=|CD|=d.$ In $triangle BDC,$ we have$$
begin{align}
{sin152^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin(180^circ-28^circ)over a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin28^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{2sin14^circcos14^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
a&=2dcos14^circtag{1}
end{align}$$
We see that $angle A = 104^circ,$ so in $triangle ABC,$ we have $$
begin{align}
{sin104^circover a}&={sin30^circover b}\
{sin(90^circ+14^circ)over a} &= {1over2b}\
{cos14^circover a}&={1over2b}\
a&=2bcos14^circtag{2}
end{align}$$
Comparing $(1)$ and $(2),$ we have $b=d.$
That means that $triangle ADC$ is isosceles, and it's easy to work out the angles around point $D.$ I get $x=134^circ$ (on the second try, thanks to Lance.)
Let $|BC|=a, |AB|=c, |AC|=b,$ and $|BD|=|CD|=d.$ In $triangle BDC,$ we have$$
begin{align}
{sin152^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin(180^circ-28^circ)over a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{sin28^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
{2sin14^circcos14^circover a} &= {sin14^circover d}\
a&=2dcos14^circtag{1}
end{align}$$
We see that $angle A = 104^circ,$ so in $triangle ABC,$ we have $$
begin{align}
{sin104^circover a}&={sin30^circover b}\
{sin(90^circ+14^circ)over a} &= {1over2b}\
{cos14^circover a}&={1over2b}\
a&=2bcos14^circtag{2}
end{align}$$
Comparing $(1)$ and $(2),$ we have $b=d.$
That means that $triangle ADC$ is isosceles, and it's easy to work out the angles around point $D.$ I get $x=134^circ$ (on the second try, thanks to Lance.)
edited Nov 28 '18 at 19:11
answered Nov 28 '18 at 17:33
saulspatz
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What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
|
show 7 more comments
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
What law did you use?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:42
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
The law of sines, and some trig identities.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:51
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
But could we equate all the sides $1$? And I noticed that you made a relation with sides, not angles. Why is that?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:53
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
@Enzo What do you mean by "equate all the sides $1$?" Do you mean, "set all the sides equal to $1?$" All which sides? We have $|AC|=|DC|$ and you set them both equal to $1$ if you want to. Why did I do that? Because $(1)$ and $(2)$ imply $b=d.$ What else would I do?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 17:56
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
Suppose we have that ${aover d} = {sin14^circover sin 152^circ}$
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 17:57
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$$BDC=180-2(14)=152tag{*},$$
$$frac{sin(30)}{AC}=frac{sin(46)}{AB}tag{1},$$
$$frac{sin(x)}{AB}=frac{sin(16)}{AD}tag{2},$$
and by (*),
$$frac{sin(208-x)}{AC}=frac{sin(32)}{AD}tag{3}$$
$$overset{text{by }(2)}impliessin(x)=sin(16)frac{AB}{AD}overset{text{by }(1)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{AC}{AD}overset{text{by }(3)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{sin(208-x)}{sin(32)}.$$
Now apply $sin(x-y)=sin xcos y-cos xsin y$ to obtain
$$sin(x)=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{cos(x)sin(208)-cos(208)sin(x)}{sin(32)}.$$
$$sin(x)left(1+frac{sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}right)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}cos(x).$$
Hence,
$$tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)},$$
which gives $x=-46implies x=-46+180=134$.
- All arguments in degrees.
1
great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
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$$BDC=180-2(14)=152tag{*},$$
$$frac{sin(30)}{AC}=frac{sin(46)}{AB}tag{1},$$
$$frac{sin(x)}{AB}=frac{sin(16)}{AD}tag{2},$$
and by (*),
$$frac{sin(208-x)}{AC}=frac{sin(32)}{AD}tag{3}$$
$$overset{text{by }(2)}impliessin(x)=sin(16)frac{AB}{AD}overset{text{by }(1)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{AC}{AD}overset{text{by }(3)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{sin(208-x)}{sin(32)}.$$
Now apply $sin(x-y)=sin xcos y-cos xsin y$ to obtain
$$sin(x)=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{cos(x)sin(208)-cos(208)sin(x)}{sin(32)}.$$
$$sin(x)left(1+frac{sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}right)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}cos(x).$$
Hence,
$$tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)},$$
which gives $x=-46implies x=-46+180=134$.
- All arguments in degrees.
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great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
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$$BDC=180-2(14)=152tag{*},$$
$$frac{sin(30)}{AC}=frac{sin(46)}{AB}tag{1},$$
$$frac{sin(x)}{AB}=frac{sin(16)}{AD}tag{2},$$
and by (*),
$$frac{sin(208-x)}{AC}=frac{sin(32)}{AD}tag{3}$$
$$overset{text{by }(2)}impliessin(x)=sin(16)frac{AB}{AD}overset{text{by }(1)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{AC}{AD}overset{text{by }(3)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{sin(208-x)}{sin(32)}.$$
Now apply $sin(x-y)=sin xcos y-cos xsin y$ to obtain
$$sin(x)=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{cos(x)sin(208)-cos(208)sin(x)}{sin(32)}.$$
$$sin(x)left(1+frac{sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}right)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}cos(x).$$
Hence,
$$tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)},$$
which gives $x=-46implies x=-46+180=134$.
- All arguments in degrees.
$$BDC=180-2(14)=152tag{*},$$
$$frac{sin(30)}{AC}=frac{sin(46)}{AB}tag{1},$$
$$frac{sin(x)}{AB}=frac{sin(16)}{AD}tag{2},$$
and by (*),
$$frac{sin(208-x)}{AC}=frac{sin(32)}{AD}tag{3}$$
$$overset{text{by }(2)}impliessin(x)=sin(16)frac{AB}{AD}overset{text{by }(1)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{AC}{AD}overset{text{by }(3)}=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{sin(208-x)}{sin(32)}.$$
Now apply $sin(x-y)=sin xcos y-cos xsin y$ to obtain
$$sin(x)=sin(16)frac{sin(46)}{sin(30)}frac{cos(x)sin(208)-cos(208)sin(x)}{sin(32)}.$$
$$sin(x)left(1+frac{sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}right)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)}cos(x).$$
Hence,
$$tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)},$$
which gives $x=-46implies x=-46+180=134$.
- All arguments in degrees.
edited Nov 29 '18 at 17:11
answered Nov 28 '18 at 18:50
Antinous
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great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
add a comment |
1
great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
1
1
great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
great job! Where I failed to get through. Could you elaborate on the final equation. That's where I got stuck. Thanks!
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 4:38
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
The step(s) from $tan(x)=frac{sin(16)sin(46)sin(208)}{sin(30)sin(32)+sin(16)sin(46)cos(208)}$ to $x=-46$ is not clear to me. Thanks.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:33
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
$tan^{-1}$ is what puzzles me. Do you mean numerically ?
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:37
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
Let us continue this discussion in chat.
– Lance
Nov 29 '18 at 15:42
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OK. Sine law only approach.
WLOG, let $|AB|=1$.
$sin x=cfrac {sin 16^circ}{|AD|}$
$cfrac{|AD|}{sin 32^circ}=cfrac {|AC|}{sin(360^circ-x-152^circ)}$
$|AC|=cfrac {sin 30^circ}{sin 46^circ}$
From above, we have
$sin x=cfrac{sin 16^circ sin(-x-152^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ sin30^circ}=cfrac{2sin 16^circ sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ }=cfrac{sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{cos 16^circ } tag 1$
expand $sin 46^circ$ doesn't seem to give any neat equation. Anyway, paul's solution is neat and insightful, except there is a minor arithmetic issue. Final result should be $x=134^circ$.
I got stuck here until I realized how to solve this from solving a similar problem.
$(1)iff cfrac{sin x}{sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ}{sin 74^circ} iff cfrac{sin x+sin (x-28^circ)}{sin x-sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ+sin 74^circ}{sin 46^circ-sin 74^circ}$
$iff cfrac{2sin(x-14^circ)cos 14^circ}{2cos(x-14^circ)sin 14^circ}=cfrac{2sin 60^circcos 14^circ}{2cos 60^circsin(-14^circ)}$
$iff tan (x-14^circ)=-tan 60^circ=tan 120^circ$
$iff x-14^circ=120^circ iff x=134^circ$
It's implicit that $0<x<180^circ$
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
add a comment |
OK. Sine law only approach.
WLOG, let $|AB|=1$.
$sin x=cfrac {sin 16^circ}{|AD|}$
$cfrac{|AD|}{sin 32^circ}=cfrac {|AC|}{sin(360^circ-x-152^circ)}$
$|AC|=cfrac {sin 30^circ}{sin 46^circ}$
From above, we have
$sin x=cfrac{sin 16^circ sin(-x-152^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ sin30^circ}=cfrac{2sin 16^circ sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ }=cfrac{sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{cos 16^circ } tag 1$
expand $sin 46^circ$ doesn't seem to give any neat equation. Anyway, paul's solution is neat and insightful, except there is a minor arithmetic issue. Final result should be $x=134^circ$.
I got stuck here until I realized how to solve this from solving a similar problem.
$(1)iff cfrac{sin x}{sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ}{sin 74^circ} iff cfrac{sin x+sin (x-28^circ)}{sin x-sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ+sin 74^circ}{sin 46^circ-sin 74^circ}$
$iff cfrac{2sin(x-14^circ)cos 14^circ}{2cos(x-14^circ)sin 14^circ}=cfrac{2sin 60^circcos 14^circ}{2cos 60^circsin(-14^circ)}$
$iff tan (x-14^circ)=-tan 60^circ=tan 120^circ$
$iff x-14^circ=120^circ iff x=134^circ$
It's implicit that $0<x<180^circ$
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
add a comment |
OK. Sine law only approach.
WLOG, let $|AB|=1$.
$sin x=cfrac {sin 16^circ}{|AD|}$
$cfrac{|AD|}{sin 32^circ}=cfrac {|AC|}{sin(360^circ-x-152^circ)}$
$|AC|=cfrac {sin 30^circ}{sin 46^circ}$
From above, we have
$sin x=cfrac{sin 16^circ sin(-x-152^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ sin30^circ}=cfrac{2sin 16^circ sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ }=cfrac{sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{cos 16^circ } tag 1$
expand $sin 46^circ$ doesn't seem to give any neat equation. Anyway, paul's solution is neat and insightful, except there is a minor arithmetic issue. Final result should be $x=134^circ$.
I got stuck here until I realized how to solve this from solving a similar problem.
$(1)iff cfrac{sin x}{sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ}{sin 74^circ} iff cfrac{sin x+sin (x-28^circ)}{sin x-sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ+sin 74^circ}{sin 46^circ-sin 74^circ}$
$iff cfrac{2sin(x-14^circ)cos 14^circ}{2cos(x-14^circ)sin 14^circ}=cfrac{2sin 60^circcos 14^circ}{2cos 60^circsin(-14^circ)}$
$iff tan (x-14^circ)=-tan 60^circ=tan 120^circ$
$iff x-14^circ=120^circ iff x=134^circ$
It's implicit that $0<x<180^circ$
OK. Sine law only approach.
WLOG, let $|AB|=1$.
$sin x=cfrac {sin 16^circ}{|AD|}$
$cfrac{|AD|}{sin 32^circ}=cfrac {|AC|}{sin(360^circ-x-152^circ)}$
$|AC|=cfrac {sin 30^circ}{sin 46^circ}$
From above, we have
$sin x=cfrac{sin 16^circ sin(-x-152^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ sin30^circ}=cfrac{2sin 16^circ sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{sin 32^circ }=cfrac{sin(x-28^circ)sin 46^circ}{cos 16^circ } tag 1$
expand $sin 46^circ$ doesn't seem to give any neat equation. Anyway, paul's solution is neat and insightful, except there is a minor arithmetic issue. Final result should be $x=134^circ$.
I got stuck here until I realized how to solve this from solving a similar problem.
$(1)iff cfrac{sin x}{sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ}{sin 74^circ} iff cfrac{sin x+sin (x-28^circ)}{sin x-sin (x-28^circ)}=cfrac {sin 46^circ+sin 74^circ}{sin 46^circ-sin 74^circ}$
$iff cfrac{2sin(x-14^circ)cos 14^circ}{2cos(x-14^circ)sin 14^circ}=cfrac{2sin 60^circcos 14^circ}{2cos 60^circsin(-14^circ)}$
$iff tan (x-14^circ)=-tan 60^circ=tan 120^circ$
$iff x-14^circ=120^circ iff x=134^circ$
It's implicit that $0<x<180^circ$
edited Dec 21 '18 at 16:37
answered Nov 28 '18 at 16:36
Lance
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Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
add a comment |
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Why do you use law of Sines and law of Cosines together? It makes it more complex.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:39
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
Unless you can find the required quantities otherwise. How would you get $|AD|$? You can certainly represent $|AD|$ by another cosine law equation using $x$, but it could be more complicated to solve for $x$.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 16:43
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
This can't be right... according to your result, $costheta>1$ for $theta$ real, which is not possible.
– Antinous
Nov 28 '18 at 18:35
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
@Antinous. Right. Fixing it.
– Lance
Nov 28 '18 at 18:46
add a comment |
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You aren't using all the data. What about the $32^circ$ and $16^circ$ angles? Also, note that $angle ADC = 208^circ - x,$ and $208 = 180+2cdot 14;$ I haven't done the problem, but there's a lot of suggestive relations here.
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:11
@saulspatz I used $16$ angle but did not use the angles in ADC.
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:13
Sorry, I meant it's suggestive that $32=2cdot 16.$ I should have been more explicit. Also, I should have asked, are you required to use the law of sines? Why not the law of cosines?
– saulspatz
Nov 28 '18 at 16:14
@saulspatz Indeed, I'm unable to see the difference between law of sines and law of cosines. And we can apply law of cosines when we know all sides (Perhaps I'm wrong with that).
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:31
@saulspatz Any possibility that this triangle can be solved using only law of sines?
– Enzo
Nov 28 '18 at 16:59