Proof of this integration shortcut: $int_a^b frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}}=pi$
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I came across this as one of the shortcuts in my textbook without any proof.
When $bgt a$,
$$intlimits_a^b dfrac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}}=pi$$
My attempt :
I notice that the the denominator is $0$ at both the bounds. I thought of substituting $x=a+(b-a)t$ so that the integral becomes
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}$$
This doesn't look simple, but I'm wondering if the answer can be seen using symmetry/geometry ?
calculus integration definite-integrals
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I came across this as one of the shortcuts in my textbook without any proof.
When $bgt a$,
$$intlimits_a^b dfrac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}}=pi$$
My attempt :
I notice that the the denominator is $0$ at both the bounds. I thought of substituting $x=a+(b-a)t$ so that the integral becomes
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}$$
This doesn't look simple, but I'm wondering if the answer can be seen using symmetry/geometry ?
calculus integration definite-integrals
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It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
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@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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– usr0192
Jul 16 '18 at 18:18
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I came across this as one of the shortcuts in my textbook without any proof.
When $bgt a$,
$$intlimits_a^b dfrac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}}=pi$$
My attempt :
I notice that the the denominator is $0$ at both the bounds. I thought of substituting $x=a+(b-a)t$ so that the integral becomes
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}$$
This doesn't look simple, but I'm wondering if the answer can be seen using symmetry/geometry ?
calculus integration definite-integrals
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I came across this as one of the shortcuts in my textbook without any proof.
When $bgt a$,
$$intlimits_a^b dfrac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}}=pi$$
My attempt :
I notice that the the denominator is $0$ at both the bounds. I thought of substituting $x=a+(b-a)t$ so that the integral becomes
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}$$
This doesn't look simple, but I'm wondering if the answer can be seen using symmetry/geometry ?
calculus integration definite-integrals
calculus integration definite-integrals
edited Jul 16 '18 at 18:31
Nosrati
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asked Jul 16 '18 at 17:57
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It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
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@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
1
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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– usr0192
Jul 16 '18 at 18:18
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It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
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@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
1
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
1
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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– usr0192
Jul 16 '18 at 18:18
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2
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It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
$begingroup$
It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
$begingroup$
@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
1
1
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
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1
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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– usr0192
Jul 16 '18 at 18:18
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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Other way is substitution $t=sin^2theta$ so
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=intlimits_0^frac{pi}{2} 2dt=pi$$
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It's called an Abel Integral ( at least in my language ). You can write that
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=frac{2}{a-b}frac{1}{sqrt{1-left(frac{2}{a-b}left(x-frac{b+a}{2}right)right)^2}}$$
that goes into arcsinus
$$int_{a}^{b}frac{text{d}x}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{b-a}frac{b-a}{2}right)+text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{a-b}frac{a-b}{2}right)=2text{arcsin}left(1right)=pi$$
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begin{align}
tan^2 theta &= frac{x-a}{b-x} \
2tan theta sec^2 theta , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}} times frac{(x-a)+(b-x)}{b-x} , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2, dtheta &= frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} \
int frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} &=
2tan^{-1} sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}}
end{align}
The singularity in Wolfram Alpha comes from the upper limit $b$.
Geometrical interpretation
Considering circular arc $(x,y)=(sqrt{b-u},sqrt{u-a})$
begin{align}
ds &= frac{sqrt{b-a} , du}{2sqrt{(u-a)(b-u)}} \
tan theta &= sqrt{frac{u-a}{b-u}} \
begin{pmatrix}
x \ y
end{pmatrix} &=
begin{pmatrix}
sqrt{b-a} cos theta \
sqrt{b-a} sin theta
end{pmatrix} \
ds &= sqrt{b-a} , dtheta
end{align}
See also another integral here.
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Let $m = frac{b+a}{2}$ and $r = frac{b-a}{2}$. Consider the circle
$$ (x - m)^2 + y^2 = r^2. $$
Part of this locus with $y geq 0$ is given by $y = sqrt{r^2 - (x-m)^2} = sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}$ for $a leq x leq b$. By the implicit differentiation, this function satisfies $ 2(x - m) dx + 2ydy = 0 $ and hence
$$ frac{dy}{dx} = -frac{x-m}{y}. $$
So the length of the upper-circular arc is
$$ pi r = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{1+left(frac{dy}{dx}right)^2} , dx = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{frac{(x-m)^2 + y^2}{y^2}} , dx = int_{a}^{b} frac{r}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} , dx. $$
Dividing both sides by $r$ gives the desired answer.
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I was taught to use the substitution $x=a sin^2 theta+b cos^2 theta$
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Other way is substitution $t=sin^2theta$ so
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=intlimits_0^frac{pi}{2} 2dt=pi$$
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Other way is substitution $t=sin^2theta$ so
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=intlimits_0^frac{pi}{2} 2dt=pi$$
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Other way is substitution $t=sin^2theta$ so
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=intlimits_0^frac{pi}{2} 2dt=pi$$
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Other way is substitution $t=sin^2theta$ so
$$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=intlimits_0^frac{pi}{2} 2dt=pi$$
answered Jul 16 '18 at 18:19
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It's called an Abel Integral ( at least in my language ). You can write that
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=frac{2}{a-b}frac{1}{sqrt{1-left(frac{2}{a-b}left(x-frac{b+a}{2}right)right)^2}}$$
that goes into arcsinus
$$int_{a}^{b}frac{text{d}x}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{b-a}frac{b-a}{2}right)+text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{a-b}frac{a-b}{2}right)=2text{arcsin}left(1right)=pi$$
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It's called an Abel Integral ( at least in my language ). You can write that
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=frac{2}{a-b}frac{1}{sqrt{1-left(frac{2}{a-b}left(x-frac{b+a}{2}right)right)^2}}$$
that goes into arcsinus
$$int_{a}^{b}frac{text{d}x}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{b-a}frac{b-a}{2}right)+text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{a-b}frac{a-b}{2}right)=2text{arcsin}left(1right)=pi$$
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It's called an Abel Integral ( at least in my language ). You can write that
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=frac{2}{a-b}frac{1}{sqrt{1-left(frac{2}{a-b}left(x-frac{b+a}{2}right)right)^2}}$$
that goes into arcsinus
$$int_{a}^{b}frac{text{d}x}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{b-a}frac{b-a}{2}right)+text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{a-b}frac{a-b}{2}right)=2text{arcsin}left(1right)=pi$$
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It's called an Abel Integral ( at least in my language ). You can write that
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=frac{2}{a-b}frac{1}{sqrt{1-left(frac{2}{a-b}left(x-frac{b+a}{2}right)right)^2}}$$
that goes into arcsinus
$$int_{a}^{b}frac{text{d}x}{sqrt{left(x-aright)left(b-xright)}}=text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{b-a}frac{b-a}{2}right)+text{arcsin}left(frac{2}{a-b}frac{a-b}{2}right)=2text{arcsin}left(1right)=pi$$
answered Jul 16 '18 at 18:22
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begin{align}
tan^2 theta &= frac{x-a}{b-x} \
2tan theta sec^2 theta , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}} times frac{(x-a)+(b-x)}{b-x} , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2, dtheta &= frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} \
int frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} &=
2tan^{-1} sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}}
end{align}
The singularity in Wolfram Alpha comes from the upper limit $b$.
Geometrical interpretation
Considering circular arc $(x,y)=(sqrt{b-u},sqrt{u-a})$
begin{align}
ds &= frac{sqrt{b-a} , du}{2sqrt{(u-a)(b-u)}} \
tan theta &= sqrt{frac{u-a}{b-u}} \
begin{pmatrix}
x \ y
end{pmatrix} &=
begin{pmatrix}
sqrt{b-a} cos theta \
sqrt{b-a} sin theta
end{pmatrix} \
ds &= sqrt{b-a} , dtheta
end{align}
See also another integral here.
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begin{align}
tan^2 theta &= frac{x-a}{b-x} \
2tan theta sec^2 theta , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}} times frac{(x-a)+(b-x)}{b-x} , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2, dtheta &= frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} \
int frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} &=
2tan^{-1} sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}}
end{align}
The singularity in Wolfram Alpha comes from the upper limit $b$.
Geometrical interpretation
Considering circular arc $(x,y)=(sqrt{b-u},sqrt{u-a})$
begin{align}
ds &= frac{sqrt{b-a} , du}{2sqrt{(u-a)(b-u)}} \
tan theta &= sqrt{frac{u-a}{b-u}} \
begin{pmatrix}
x \ y
end{pmatrix} &=
begin{pmatrix}
sqrt{b-a} cos theta \
sqrt{b-a} sin theta
end{pmatrix} \
ds &= sqrt{b-a} , dtheta
end{align}
See also another integral here.
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begin{align}
tan^2 theta &= frac{x-a}{b-x} \
2tan theta sec^2 theta , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}} times frac{(x-a)+(b-x)}{b-x} , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2, dtheta &= frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} \
int frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} &=
2tan^{-1} sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}}
end{align}
The singularity in Wolfram Alpha comes from the upper limit $b$.
Geometrical interpretation
Considering circular arc $(x,y)=(sqrt{b-u},sqrt{u-a})$
begin{align}
ds &= frac{sqrt{b-a} , du}{2sqrt{(u-a)(b-u)}} \
tan theta &= sqrt{frac{u-a}{b-u}} \
begin{pmatrix}
x \ y
end{pmatrix} &=
begin{pmatrix}
sqrt{b-a} cos theta \
sqrt{b-a} sin theta
end{pmatrix} \
ds &= sqrt{b-a} , dtheta
end{align}
See also another integral here.
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begin{align}
tan^2 theta &= frac{x-a}{b-x} \
2tan theta sec^2 theta , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}} times frac{(x-a)+(b-x)}{b-x} , dtheta &=
frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2} , dx \
2, dtheta &= frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} \
int frac{dx}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} &=
2tan^{-1} sqrt{frac{x-a}{b-x}}
end{align}
The singularity in Wolfram Alpha comes from the upper limit $b$.
Geometrical interpretation
Considering circular arc $(x,y)=(sqrt{b-u},sqrt{u-a})$
begin{align}
ds &= frac{sqrt{b-a} , du}{2sqrt{(u-a)(b-u)}} \
tan theta &= sqrt{frac{u-a}{b-u}} \
begin{pmatrix}
x \ y
end{pmatrix} &=
begin{pmatrix}
sqrt{b-a} cos theta \
sqrt{b-a} sin theta
end{pmatrix} \
ds &= sqrt{b-a} , dtheta
end{align}
See also another integral here.
edited Jul 17 '18 at 3:37
answered Jul 16 '18 at 18:19
Ng Chung TakNg Chung Tak
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Let $m = frac{b+a}{2}$ and $r = frac{b-a}{2}$. Consider the circle
$$ (x - m)^2 + y^2 = r^2. $$
Part of this locus with $y geq 0$ is given by $y = sqrt{r^2 - (x-m)^2} = sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}$ for $a leq x leq b$. By the implicit differentiation, this function satisfies $ 2(x - m) dx + 2ydy = 0 $ and hence
$$ frac{dy}{dx} = -frac{x-m}{y}. $$
So the length of the upper-circular arc is
$$ pi r = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{1+left(frac{dy}{dx}right)^2} , dx = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{frac{(x-m)^2 + y^2}{y^2}} , dx = int_{a}^{b} frac{r}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} , dx. $$
Dividing both sides by $r$ gives the desired answer.
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Let $m = frac{b+a}{2}$ and $r = frac{b-a}{2}$. Consider the circle
$$ (x - m)^2 + y^2 = r^2. $$
Part of this locus with $y geq 0$ is given by $y = sqrt{r^2 - (x-m)^2} = sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}$ for $a leq x leq b$. By the implicit differentiation, this function satisfies $ 2(x - m) dx + 2ydy = 0 $ and hence
$$ frac{dy}{dx} = -frac{x-m}{y}. $$
So the length of the upper-circular arc is
$$ pi r = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{1+left(frac{dy}{dx}right)^2} , dx = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{frac{(x-m)^2 + y^2}{y^2}} , dx = int_{a}^{b} frac{r}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} , dx. $$
Dividing both sides by $r$ gives the desired answer.
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Let $m = frac{b+a}{2}$ and $r = frac{b-a}{2}$. Consider the circle
$$ (x - m)^2 + y^2 = r^2. $$
Part of this locus with $y geq 0$ is given by $y = sqrt{r^2 - (x-m)^2} = sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}$ for $a leq x leq b$. By the implicit differentiation, this function satisfies $ 2(x - m) dx + 2ydy = 0 $ and hence
$$ frac{dy}{dx} = -frac{x-m}{y}. $$
So the length of the upper-circular arc is
$$ pi r = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{1+left(frac{dy}{dx}right)^2} , dx = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{frac{(x-m)^2 + y^2}{y^2}} , dx = int_{a}^{b} frac{r}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} , dx. $$
Dividing both sides by $r$ gives the desired answer.
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Let $m = frac{b+a}{2}$ and $r = frac{b-a}{2}$. Consider the circle
$$ (x - m)^2 + y^2 = r^2. $$
Part of this locus with $y geq 0$ is given by $y = sqrt{r^2 - (x-m)^2} = sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}$ for $a leq x leq b$. By the implicit differentiation, this function satisfies $ 2(x - m) dx + 2ydy = 0 $ and hence
$$ frac{dy}{dx} = -frac{x-m}{y}. $$
So the length of the upper-circular arc is
$$ pi r = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{1+left(frac{dy}{dx}right)^2} , dx = int_{a}^{b} sqrt{frac{(x-m)^2 + y^2}{y^2}} , dx = int_{a}^{b} frac{r}{sqrt{(x-a)(b-x)}} , dx. $$
Dividing both sides by $r$ gives the desired answer.
answered Jul 17 '18 at 7:01
Sangchul LeeSangchul Lee
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I was taught to use the substitution $x=a sin^2 theta+b cos^2 theta$
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I was taught to use the substitution $x=a sin^2 theta+b cos^2 theta$
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I was taught to use the substitution $x=a sin^2 theta+b cos^2 theta$
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I was taught to use the substitution $x=a sin^2 theta+b cos^2 theta$
answered Jul 17 '18 at 6:41
Hari ShankarHari Shankar
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It's better to reduce to the $(a,b)=(-1,1)$ case rather than the $(0,1)$ case.
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 17:59
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@InterstellarProbe here is an example
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– rsadhvika
Jul 16 '18 at 18:04
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@InterstellarProbe So much the worse for Wolfie!
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jul 16 '18 at 18:06
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$intlimits_0^1 dfrac{dt}{sqrt{t(1-t)}}=beta(dfrac14,dfrac14)=pi$
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– Nosrati
Jul 16 '18 at 18:16
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maybe try the substitution $t=cos theta$ or $t=sintheta$? I haven't tried it but the denominator would simplify
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– usr0192
Jul 16 '18 at 18:18