Need help proving the product of closed sets is closed in the product topology
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Let ${X_{alpha}}$ be a family of topological spaces and ${A_{alpha}}$ be a family of sets such that $A_{alpha} subseteq X_{alpha}$ and $A_{alpha}$ is closed in $X_{alpha}$.
How do you prove that $prod A_{alpha}$ is closed in $prod X_{alpha}$ with the product topology? Is it also the case for the box topology in $prod X_{alpha}$? Use this to prove $overline{prod_{}^{} {A_{alpha}}} = prod_{}^{}{overline{A_{alpha}}}$
in $ prod_{}^{} {X_{alpha}}$ with the product topology. Is this also true in the box topology?
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Let ${X_{alpha}}$ be a family of topological spaces and ${A_{alpha}}$ be a family of sets such that $A_{alpha} subseteq X_{alpha}$ and $A_{alpha}$ is closed in $X_{alpha}$.
How do you prove that $prod A_{alpha}$ is closed in $prod X_{alpha}$ with the product topology? Is it also the case for the box topology in $prod X_{alpha}$? Use this to prove $overline{prod_{}^{} {A_{alpha}}} = prod_{}^{}{overline{A_{alpha}}}$
in $ prod_{}^{} {X_{alpha}}$ with the product topology. Is this also true in the box topology?
general-topology
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Let ${X_{alpha}}$ be a family of topological spaces and ${A_{alpha}}$ be a family of sets such that $A_{alpha} subseteq X_{alpha}$ and $A_{alpha}$ is closed in $X_{alpha}$.
How do you prove that $prod A_{alpha}$ is closed in $prod X_{alpha}$ with the product topology? Is it also the case for the box topology in $prod X_{alpha}$? Use this to prove $overline{prod_{}^{} {A_{alpha}}} = prod_{}^{}{overline{A_{alpha}}}$
in $ prod_{}^{} {X_{alpha}}$ with the product topology. Is this also true in the box topology?
general-topology
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Let ${X_{alpha}}$ be a family of topological spaces and ${A_{alpha}}$ be a family of sets such that $A_{alpha} subseteq X_{alpha}$ and $A_{alpha}$ is closed in $X_{alpha}$.
How do you prove that $prod A_{alpha}$ is closed in $prod X_{alpha}$ with the product topology? Is it also the case for the box topology in $prod X_{alpha}$? Use this to prove $overline{prod_{}^{} {A_{alpha}}} = prod_{}^{}{overline{A_{alpha}}}$
in $ prod_{}^{} {X_{alpha}}$ with the product topology. Is this also true in the box topology?
general-topology
general-topology
edited Dec 15 '18 at 21:34
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Hint:
Let $pi_{alpha}$ be projection on the $X_{alpha}$ then
$$cap_{alpha } ~pi_{alpha}^{-1} (A_{alpha}) = prod A_{alpha}$$
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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– Red shoes
Dec 22 '18 at 0:03
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It's not my question. xD
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– YoungMath
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Assume all $A_alpha$ are closed. Let $(x_gamma)$ be a net of $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ converging towards $x in X:=Pi_alpha X_alpha$. Since the projections $pi_alpha: X to X_alpha$ are continous by the definition of the product topology, we have $$pi_alpha(x_gamma) xrightarrow{gamma} pi_alpha(x).$$
Now, the $A_alpha$ are closed by assumption so $pi_alpha(x) in A_alpha$ for every $alpha$ in the index set. From this follows $x in Pi_alpha A_alpha$ and hence $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ is closed.
I admit, this approach needs some knowledge about nets.
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Hint:
Let $pi_{alpha}$ be projection on the $X_{alpha}$ then
$$cap_{alpha } ~pi_{alpha}^{-1} (A_{alpha}) = prod A_{alpha}$$
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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– Red shoes
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It's not my question. xD
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Hint:
Let $pi_{alpha}$ be projection on the $X_{alpha}$ then
$$cap_{alpha } ~pi_{alpha}^{-1} (A_{alpha}) = prod A_{alpha}$$
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
1
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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It's not my question. xD
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Hint:
Let $pi_{alpha}$ be projection on the $X_{alpha}$ then
$$cap_{alpha } ~pi_{alpha}^{-1} (A_{alpha}) = prod A_{alpha}$$
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Hint:
Let $pi_{alpha}$ be projection on the $X_{alpha}$ then
$$cap_{alpha } ~pi_{alpha}^{-1} (A_{alpha}) = prod A_{alpha}$$
answered Dec 15 '18 at 21:47
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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It's not my question. xD
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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– Red shoes
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It's not my question. xD
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– YoungMath
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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That's only helpful for finite index sets, isn't it?
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 10:12
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1
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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@YoungMath Intersection of arbitrary numbers of closed sets is closed
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– Red shoes
Dec 16 '18 at 17:33
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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Of course! You're right! Then, your approach is more concise.
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– YoungMath
Dec 16 '18 at 17:36
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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– Red shoes
Dec 22 '18 at 0:03
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@sepehr could you please accept my answer by clicking on the check mark?
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– Red shoes
Dec 22 '18 at 0:03
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It's not my question. xD
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– YoungMath
Jan 14 at 13:56
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It's not my question. xD
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– YoungMath
Jan 14 at 13:56
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Assume all $A_alpha$ are closed. Let $(x_gamma)$ be a net of $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ converging towards $x in X:=Pi_alpha X_alpha$. Since the projections $pi_alpha: X to X_alpha$ are continous by the definition of the product topology, we have $$pi_alpha(x_gamma) xrightarrow{gamma} pi_alpha(x).$$
Now, the $A_alpha$ are closed by assumption so $pi_alpha(x) in A_alpha$ for every $alpha$ in the index set. From this follows $x in Pi_alpha A_alpha$ and hence $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ is closed.
I admit, this approach needs some knowledge about nets.
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Assume all $A_alpha$ are closed. Let $(x_gamma)$ be a net of $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ converging towards $x in X:=Pi_alpha X_alpha$. Since the projections $pi_alpha: X to X_alpha$ are continous by the definition of the product topology, we have $$pi_alpha(x_gamma) xrightarrow{gamma} pi_alpha(x).$$
Now, the $A_alpha$ are closed by assumption so $pi_alpha(x) in A_alpha$ for every $alpha$ in the index set. From this follows $x in Pi_alpha A_alpha$ and hence $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ is closed.
I admit, this approach needs some knowledge about nets.
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Assume all $A_alpha$ are closed. Let $(x_gamma)$ be a net of $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ converging towards $x in X:=Pi_alpha X_alpha$. Since the projections $pi_alpha: X to X_alpha$ are continous by the definition of the product topology, we have $$pi_alpha(x_gamma) xrightarrow{gamma} pi_alpha(x).$$
Now, the $A_alpha$ are closed by assumption so $pi_alpha(x) in A_alpha$ for every $alpha$ in the index set. From this follows $x in Pi_alpha A_alpha$ and hence $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ is closed.
I admit, this approach needs some knowledge about nets.
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Assume all $A_alpha$ are closed. Let $(x_gamma)$ be a net of $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ converging towards $x in X:=Pi_alpha X_alpha$. Since the projections $pi_alpha: X to X_alpha$ are continous by the definition of the product topology, we have $$pi_alpha(x_gamma) xrightarrow{gamma} pi_alpha(x).$$
Now, the $A_alpha$ are closed by assumption so $pi_alpha(x) in A_alpha$ for every $alpha$ in the index set. From this follows $x in Pi_alpha A_alpha$ and hence $Pi_alpha A_alpha$ is closed.
I admit, this approach needs some knowledge about nets.
edited Dec 16 '18 at 12:06
answered Dec 16 '18 at 11:53
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