Are children permitted to help build the Beis Hamikdash?












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When the Beis Hamikdash is being built, can the children help out [in any way] in its constructing? Perhaps because of their young age there would be a reason to prohibit them from helping out.



In searching for an answer to this question, I came across some examples of children constructing models of the Beis Hamikdash. Perhaps like many activities, this is only training for future activities.










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  • Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

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  • The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

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When the Beis Hamikdash is being built, can the children help out [in any way] in its constructing? Perhaps because of their young age there would be a reason to prohibit them from helping out.



In searching for an answer to this question, I came across some examples of children constructing models of the Beis Hamikdash. Perhaps like many activities, this is only training for future activities.










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  • Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago











  • The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago














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When the Beis Hamikdash is being built, can the children help out [in any way] in its constructing? Perhaps because of their young age there would be a reason to prohibit them from helping out.



In searching for an answer to this question, I came across some examples of children constructing models of the Beis Hamikdash. Perhaps like many activities, this is only training for future activities.










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When the Beis Hamikdash is being built, can the children help out [in any way] in its constructing? Perhaps because of their young age there would be a reason to prohibit them from helping out.



In searching for an answer to this question, I came across some examples of children constructing models of the Beis Hamikdash. Perhaps like many activities, this is only training for future activities.







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  • Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago











  • The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago



















  • Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago











  • The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

    – LN6595
    5 hours ago

















Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

– LN6595
5 hours ago





Their age would preclude them from doing any part that must be done "lishma", with intent.

– LN6595
5 hours ago













The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

– LN6595
5 hours ago





The reason children build models is to teach them about the various dimensions and vessels. It is part of talmud torah, not chinuch for binyas beis habechira.

– LN6595
5 hours ago










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In practice, it would likely be considered forbidden for a child to help with building the Bais Hamikdash. This is due to the fact that their main 'job' is being educated, which supercedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. And this is actally brought down explicitly in the Halacha, for example, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 165:11:




הַמְלַמֵּד, צָרִיךְ לֵישֵׁב וּלְלַמֵּד אֶת הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כָּל הַיּוֹם
וּקְצָת מִן הַלַּיְלָה, כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכָם לִלְמֹד בַּיּוֹם
וּבַלָּיְלָה. וְלֹא יְבַטְּלוּ הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כְּלָל, חוּץ מֵעֶרֶב
שַׁבָּת וְעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב בְּסוֹף הַיוֹם. אֵין מְבַטְּלִין אֶת
הַתִּינוֹקוֹת אֲפִלוּ לְבִנְיַן בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ
.



The teacher must teach the children the entire day and part of the
evening, in order to train them to study Torah by day and by night. He
must not interrupt the childrens' learning except on erev Shabbos and
on erev Yom Tov at the end of the day. The children are not to be
interrupted from their learning even for the purpose of building the
Beis HaMikdosh




Now, one might be able to argue that going on a 'field trip' to see the Bais Hamikdash being built can be a great educational experience (just like we allow kids nowadays to go on field trips and do other activities that aren't strictly 'learning Torah' as part of their overall education), but my feeling is that if this exact example is brought down in Halacha as something that one should not do in place of learning Torah, it would be difficult to argue that doing so would be a beneficial educational experience for the child.



But I'll leave that debate up to those expert educators who know much more about how to properly educate children than I. May they have to deliberate on this question speedily and in our days!






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    What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

    – Double AA
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    You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

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In practice, it would likely be considered forbidden for a child to help with building the Bais Hamikdash. This is due to the fact that their main 'job' is being educated, which supercedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. And this is actally brought down explicitly in the Halacha, for example, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 165:11:




הַמְלַמֵּד, צָרִיךְ לֵישֵׁב וּלְלַמֵּד אֶת הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כָּל הַיּוֹם
וּקְצָת מִן הַלַּיְלָה, כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכָם לִלְמֹד בַּיּוֹם
וּבַלָּיְלָה. וְלֹא יְבַטְּלוּ הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כְּלָל, חוּץ מֵעֶרֶב
שַׁבָּת וְעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב בְּסוֹף הַיוֹם. אֵין מְבַטְּלִין אֶת
הַתִּינוֹקוֹת אֲפִלוּ לְבִנְיַן בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ
.



The teacher must teach the children the entire day and part of the
evening, in order to train them to study Torah by day and by night. He
must not interrupt the childrens' learning except on erev Shabbos and
on erev Yom Tov at the end of the day. The children are not to be
interrupted from their learning even for the purpose of building the
Beis HaMikdosh




Now, one might be able to argue that going on a 'field trip' to see the Bais Hamikdash being built can be a great educational experience (just like we allow kids nowadays to go on field trips and do other activities that aren't strictly 'learning Torah' as part of their overall education), but my feeling is that if this exact example is brought down in Halacha as something that one should not do in place of learning Torah, it would be difficult to argue that doing so would be a beneficial educational experience for the child.



But I'll leave that debate up to those expert educators who know much more about how to properly educate children than I. May they have to deliberate on this question speedily and in our days!






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    What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago






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    You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

    – IsraelReader
    7 hours ago
















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In practice, it would likely be considered forbidden for a child to help with building the Bais Hamikdash. This is due to the fact that their main 'job' is being educated, which supercedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. And this is actally brought down explicitly in the Halacha, for example, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 165:11:




הַמְלַמֵּד, צָרִיךְ לֵישֵׁב וּלְלַמֵּד אֶת הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כָּל הַיּוֹם
וּקְצָת מִן הַלַּיְלָה, כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכָם לִלְמֹד בַּיּוֹם
וּבַלָּיְלָה. וְלֹא יְבַטְּלוּ הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כְּלָל, חוּץ מֵעֶרֶב
שַׁבָּת וְעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב בְּסוֹף הַיוֹם. אֵין מְבַטְּלִין אֶת
הַתִּינוֹקוֹת אֲפִלוּ לְבִנְיַן בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ
.



The teacher must teach the children the entire day and part of the
evening, in order to train them to study Torah by day and by night. He
must not interrupt the childrens' learning except on erev Shabbos and
on erev Yom Tov at the end of the day. The children are not to be
interrupted from their learning even for the purpose of building the
Beis HaMikdosh




Now, one might be able to argue that going on a 'field trip' to see the Bais Hamikdash being built can be a great educational experience (just like we allow kids nowadays to go on field trips and do other activities that aren't strictly 'learning Torah' as part of their overall education), but my feeling is that if this exact example is brought down in Halacha as something that one should not do in place of learning Torah, it would be difficult to argue that doing so would be a beneficial educational experience for the child.



But I'll leave that debate up to those expert educators who know much more about how to properly educate children than I. May they have to deliberate on this question speedily and in our days!






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    What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

    – IsraelReader
    7 hours ago














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In practice, it would likely be considered forbidden for a child to help with building the Bais Hamikdash. This is due to the fact that their main 'job' is being educated, which supercedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. And this is actally brought down explicitly in the Halacha, for example, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 165:11:




הַמְלַמֵּד, צָרִיךְ לֵישֵׁב וּלְלַמֵּד אֶת הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כָּל הַיּוֹם
וּקְצָת מִן הַלַּיְלָה, כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכָם לִלְמֹד בַּיּוֹם
וּבַלָּיְלָה. וְלֹא יְבַטְּלוּ הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כְּלָל, חוּץ מֵעֶרֶב
שַׁבָּת וְעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב בְּסוֹף הַיוֹם. אֵין מְבַטְּלִין אֶת
הַתִּינוֹקוֹת אֲפִלוּ לְבִנְיַן בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ
.



The teacher must teach the children the entire day and part of the
evening, in order to train them to study Torah by day and by night. He
must not interrupt the childrens' learning except on erev Shabbos and
on erev Yom Tov at the end of the day. The children are not to be
interrupted from their learning even for the purpose of building the
Beis HaMikdosh




Now, one might be able to argue that going on a 'field trip' to see the Bais Hamikdash being built can be a great educational experience (just like we allow kids nowadays to go on field trips and do other activities that aren't strictly 'learning Torah' as part of their overall education), but my feeling is that if this exact example is brought down in Halacha as something that one should not do in place of learning Torah, it would be difficult to argue that doing so would be a beneficial educational experience for the child.



But I'll leave that debate up to those expert educators who know much more about how to properly educate children than I. May they have to deliberate on this question speedily and in our days!






share|improve this answer













In practice, it would likely be considered forbidden for a child to help with building the Bais Hamikdash. This is due to the fact that their main 'job' is being educated, which supercedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. And this is actally brought down explicitly in the Halacha, for example, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 165:11:




הַמְלַמֵּד, צָרִיךְ לֵישֵׁב וּלְלַמֵּד אֶת הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כָּל הַיּוֹם
וּקְצָת מִן הַלַּיְלָה, כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכָם לִלְמֹד בַּיּוֹם
וּבַלָּיְלָה. וְלֹא יְבַטְּלוּ הַתִּינוֹקוֹת כְּלָל, חוּץ מֵעֶרֶב
שַׁבָּת וְעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב בְּסוֹף הַיוֹם. אֵין מְבַטְּלִין אֶת
הַתִּינוֹקוֹת אֲפִלוּ לְבִנְיַן בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ
.



The teacher must teach the children the entire day and part of the
evening, in order to train them to study Torah by day and by night. He
must not interrupt the childrens' learning except on erev Shabbos and
on erev Yom Tov at the end of the day. The children are not to be
interrupted from their learning even for the purpose of building the
Beis HaMikdosh




Now, one might be able to argue that going on a 'field trip' to see the Bais Hamikdash being built can be a great educational experience (just like we allow kids nowadays to go on field trips and do other activities that aren't strictly 'learning Torah' as part of their overall education), but my feeling is that if this exact example is brought down in Halacha as something that one should not do in place of learning Torah, it would be difficult to argue that doing so would be a beneficial educational experience for the child.



But I'll leave that debate up to those expert educators who know much more about how to properly educate children than I. May they have to deliberate on this question speedily and in our days!







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    What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

    – IsraelReader
    7 hours ago














  • 1





    What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

    – IsraelReader
    7 hours ago








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What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

– Double AA
8 hours ago





What about children who are exempt from Talmud Torah

– Double AA
8 hours ago




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1





You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

– IsraelReader
7 hours ago





You noted that children's main 'job' is being educated, which supersedes almost everything, including building the Bais Hamikdash. - Mahari Korkus on the Rambam (Beis Habechirah 1:12) explains a bit differently. The reason that their learning supersedes building the BH, is because of the great intrinsic importance of the Torah of children, in that their Torah is so special, that it holds up the entire world דאין העולם קיים אלא בהבל פיהם.

– IsraelReader
7 hours ago



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