Help calculating $lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}$ [closed]












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Can someone help me calculating this limit?



$$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}$$



I can't use L'Hospital's rule.










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Can someone help me calculating this limit?



$$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}$$



I can't use L'Hospital's rule.










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Can someone help me calculating this limit?



$$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}$$



I can't use L'Hospital's rule.










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Can someone help me calculating this limit?



$$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}$$



I can't use L'Hospital's rule.







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    $begingroup$
    Can you not let $u=1-frac{15}{x}$ and go from there
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    – Henry Lee
    Nov 30 '18 at 22:32














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    $begingroup$
    Can you not let $u=1-frac{15}{x}$ and go from there
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    – Henry Lee
    Nov 30 '18 at 22:32








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Can you not let $u=1-frac{15}{x}$ and go from there
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As we knew from before $$a^n-1=(a-1)(a^{n-1}+ldots +1)$$therefore by substituting $u=1-{15over x}$ and $lim_{xto infty} u=1$ we obtain $$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}=lim _{uto 1}{u^{15}-1over u-1}=lim _{uto 1} u^{14}+ldots +1 =15$$






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    HINT



    Recall that



    $$a^{15}-1=(a-1)(a^{14}+a^{13}+ldots+a+1)$$






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      A totally mechanical way that doesn't involve recognising the cyclotomic polynomial:



      Get rid of the ridiculous terms by making the substitution $u = 1-frac{15}{x}$, just as in Mostafa Ayaz's answer.



      Then since limits to $1$ are less natural than limits to $0$, substitute again:



      $$lim_{u to 1} frac{u^{15}-1}{u-1} = lim_{h to 0} frac{(h+1)^{15}-1}{h} = f'(0)$$
      where $f(x) = (x+1)^{15}$.



      Now simply differentiate using the chain rule.






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        $y=15/x$, $xnot =0$, and consider



        $y rightarrow 0^+$.



        Numerator (Binomial expansion):



        $(1-y)^{15}-1=$



        $small{1-15y +(15)(14)y^2/2! -..+..-y^{15} -1}.$



        Denominator: $-y$



        The limit $y rightarrow 0^+$ is?






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          Or you can also use the binomial theorem:
          $$frac{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)^{15}-1}{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)-1}=frac{1-frac{15}{x}binom{15}{1}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)-1}{-frac{15}{x}}=frac{frac{225}{x}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}=15+frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to15$$
          Where $r$ is a polinomial with lowest degree of $2$. You can calculate it, but we don't need to do so. It's enough to know that it looks something like $rleft(frac{15}{x}right)=Afrac{1}{x^2}+Bfrac{1}{x^3}ldots$, so $frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to0$.






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            As we knew from before $$a^n-1=(a-1)(a^{n-1}+ldots +1)$$therefore by substituting $u=1-{15over x}$ and $lim_{xto infty} u=1$ we obtain $$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}=lim _{uto 1}{u^{15}-1over u-1}=lim _{uto 1} u^{14}+ldots +1 =15$$






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              As we knew from before $$a^n-1=(a-1)(a^{n-1}+ldots +1)$$therefore by substituting $u=1-{15over x}$ and $lim_{xto infty} u=1$ we obtain $$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}=lim _{uto 1}{u^{15}-1over u-1}=lim _{uto 1} u^{14}+ldots +1 =15$$






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                As we knew from before $$a^n-1=(a-1)(a^{n-1}+ldots +1)$$therefore by substituting $u=1-{15over x}$ and $lim_{xto infty} u=1$ we obtain $$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}=lim _{uto 1}{u^{15}-1over u-1}=lim _{uto 1} u^{14}+ldots +1 =15$$






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                As we knew from before $$a^n-1=(a-1)(a^{n-1}+ldots +1)$$therefore by substituting $u=1-{15over x}$ and $lim_{xto infty} u=1$ we obtain $$lim_{x to infty} frac{ (1-frac{15}{x})^{15} -1 }{(1-frac{15}{x}) -1}=lim _{uto 1}{u^{15}-1over u-1}=lim _{uto 1} u^{14}+ldots +1 =15$$







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                answered Nov 30 '18 at 22:12









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                    HINT



                    Recall that



                    $$a^{15}-1=(a-1)(a^{14}+a^{13}+ldots+a+1)$$






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                      Recall that



                      $$a^{15}-1=(a-1)(a^{14}+a^{13}+ldots+a+1)$$






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                        HINT



                        Recall that



                        $$a^{15}-1=(a-1)(a^{14}+a^{13}+ldots+a+1)$$






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                        HINT



                        Recall that



                        $$a^{15}-1=(a-1)(a^{14}+a^{13}+ldots+a+1)$$







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                            A totally mechanical way that doesn't involve recognising the cyclotomic polynomial:



                            Get rid of the ridiculous terms by making the substitution $u = 1-frac{15}{x}$, just as in Mostafa Ayaz's answer.



                            Then since limits to $1$ are less natural than limits to $0$, substitute again:



                            $$lim_{u to 1} frac{u^{15}-1}{u-1} = lim_{h to 0} frac{(h+1)^{15}-1}{h} = f'(0)$$
                            where $f(x) = (x+1)^{15}$.



                            Now simply differentiate using the chain rule.






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                              1












                              $begingroup$

                              A totally mechanical way that doesn't involve recognising the cyclotomic polynomial:



                              Get rid of the ridiculous terms by making the substitution $u = 1-frac{15}{x}$, just as in Mostafa Ayaz's answer.



                              Then since limits to $1$ are less natural than limits to $0$, substitute again:



                              $$lim_{u to 1} frac{u^{15}-1}{u-1} = lim_{h to 0} frac{(h+1)^{15}-1}{h} = f'(0)$$
                              where $f(x) = (x+1)^{15}$.



                              Now simply differentiate using the chain rule.






                              share|cite|improve this answer









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                                $begingroup$

                                A totally mechanical way that doesn't involve recognising the cyclotomic polynomial:



                                Get rid of the ridiculous terms by making the substitution $u = 1-frac{15}{x}$, just as in Mostafa Ayaz's answer.



                                Then since limits to $1$ are less natural than limits to $0$, substitute again:



                                $$lim_{u to 1} frac{u^{15}-1}{u-1} = lim_{h to 0} frac{(h+1)^{15}-1}{h} = f'(0)$$
                                where $f(x) = (x+1)^{15}$.



                                Now simply differentiate using the chain rule.






                                share|cite|improve this answer









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                                A totally mechanical way that doesn't involve recognising the cyclotomic polynomial:



                                Get rid of the ridiculous terms by making the substitution $u = 1-frac{15}{x}$, just as in Mostafa Ayaz's answer.



                                Then since limits to $1$ are less natural than limits to $0$, substitute again:



                                $$lim_{u to 1} frac{u^{15}-1}{u-1} = lim_{h to 0} frac{(h+1)^{15}-1}{h} = f'(0)$$
                                where $f(x) = (x+1)^{15}$.



                                Now simply differentiate using the chain rule.







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                                Patrick StevensPatrick Stevens

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                                    $y=15/x$, $xnot =0$, and consider



                                    $y rightarrow 0^+$.



                                    Numerator (Binomial expansion):



                                    $(1-y)^{15}-1=$



                                    $small{1-15y +(15)(14)y^2/2! -..+..-y^{15} -1}.$



                                    Denominator: $-y$



                                    The limit $y rightarrow 0^+$ is?






                                    share|cite|improve this answer









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                                      1












                                      $begingroup$

                                      $y=15/x$, $xnot =0$, and consider



                                      $y rightarrow 0^+$.



                                      Numerator (Binomial expansion):



                                      $(1-y)^{15}-1=$



                                      $small{1-15y +(15)(14)y^2/2! -..+..-y^{15} -1}.$



                                      Denominator: $-y$



                                      The limit $y rightarrow 0^+$ is?






                                      share|cite|improve this answer









                                      $endgroup$
















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                                        1





                                        $begingroup$

                                        $y=15/x$, $xnot =0$, and consider



                                        $y rightarrow 0^+$.



                                        Numerator (Binomial expansion):



                                        $(1-y)^{15}-1=$



                                        $small{1-15y +(15)(14)y^2/2! -..+..-y^{15} -1}.$



                                        Denominator: $-y$



                                        The limit $y rightarrow 0^+$ is?






                                        share|cite|improve this answer









                                        $endgroup$



                                        $y=15/x$, $xnot =0$, and consider



                                        $y rightarrow 0^+$.



                                        Numerator (Binomial expansion):



                                        $(1-y)^{15}-1=$



                                        $small{1-15y +(15)(14)y^2/2! -..+..-y^{15} -1}.$



                                        Denominator: $-y$



                                        The limit $y rightarrow 0^+$ is?







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                                        Peter SzilasPeter Szilas

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                                            Or you can also use the binomial theorem:
                                            $$frac{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)^{15}-1}{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)-1}=frac{1-frac{15}{x}binom{15}{1}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)-1}{-frac{15}{x}}=frac{frac{225}{x}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}=15+frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to15$$
                                            Where $r$ is a polinomial with lowest degree of $2$. You can calculate it, but we don't need to do so. It's enough to know that it looks something like $rleft(frac{15}{x}right)=Afrac{1}{x^2}+Bfrac{1}{x^3}ldots$, so $frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to0$.






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                                              Or you can also use the binomial theorem:
                                              $$frac{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)^{15}-1}{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)-1}=frac{1-frac{15}{x}binom{15}{1}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)-1}{-frac{15}{x}}=frac{frac{225}{x}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}=15+frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to15$$
                                              Where $r$ is a polinomial with lowest degree of $2$. You can calculate it, but we don't need to do so. It's enough to know that it looks something like $rleft(frac{15}{x}right)=Afrac{1}{x^2}+Bfrac{1}{x^3}ldots$, so $frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to0$.






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                                                Or you can also use the binomial theorem:
                                                $$frac{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)^{15}-1}{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)-1}=frac{1-frac{15}{x}binom{15}{1}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)-1}{-frac{15}{x}}=frac{frac{225}{x}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}=15+frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to15$$
                                                Where $r$ is a polinomial with lowest degree of $2$. You can calculate it, but we don't need to do so. It's enough to know that it looks something like $rleft(frac{15}{x}right)=Afrac{1}{x^2}+Bfrac{1}{x^3}ldots$, so $frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to0$.






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                                                Or you can also use the binomial theorem:
                                                $$frac{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)^{15}-1}{left(1-frac{15}{x}right)-1}=frac{1-frac{15}{x}binom{15}{1}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)-1}{-frac{15}{x}}=frac{frac{225}{x}+rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}=15+frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to15$$
                                                Where $r$ is a polinomial with lowest degree of $2$. You can calculate it, but we don't need to do so. It's enough to know that it looks something like $rleft(frac{15}{x}right)=Afrac{1}{x^2}+Bfrac{1}{x^3}ldots$, so $frac{rleft(frac{15}{x}right)}{frac{15}{x}}to0$.







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