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We can uniquely define the set of real numbers as a complete ordered field. But can we do something similar with the set of rational numbers ? I think we need to change the completness axiom with some other one. I know that we can define integers in ordered field so maybe this axiom should state that every number is quotient of two integers ? Or maybe we can choose some simpler one. So what axiom/axioms should we choose instead of completness axiom to define rational numbers ? Thanks in advance.










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    See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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We can uniquely define the set of real numbers as a complete ordered field. But can we do something similar with the set of rational numbers ? I think we need to change the completness axiom with some other one. I know that we can define integers in ordered field so maybe this axiom should state that every number is quotient of two integers ? Or maybe we can choose some simpler one. So what axiom/axioms should we choose instead of completness axiom to define rational numbers ? Thanks in advance.










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    See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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We can uniquely define the set of real numbers as a complete ordered field. But can we do something similar with the set of rational numbers ? I think we need to change the completness axiom with some other one. I know that we can define integers in ordered field so maybe this axiom should state that every number is quotient of two integers ? Or maybe we can choose some simpler one. So what axiom/axioms should we choose instead of completness axiom to define rational numbers ? Thanks in advance.










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We can uniquely define the set of real numbers as a complete ordered field. But can we do something similar with the set of rational numbers ? I think we need to change the completness axiom with some other one. I know that we can define integers in ordered field so maybe this axiom should state that every number is quotient of two integers ? Or maybe we can choose some simpler one. So what axiom/axioms should we choose instead of completness axiom to define rational numbers ? Thanks in advance.







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    $begingroup$
    See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Dec 2 '18 at 12:27














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    $begingroup$
    See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Dec 2 '18 at 12:27








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See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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See Rational numbers : "The rationals are the smallest field with characteristic zero: every other field of characteristic zero contains a copy of $mathbb Q$. The rational numbers are therefore the prime field for characteristic zero."
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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We can define the field of rational numbers as the smallest ordered field.



More precisely, let $F$ be an ordered field without subfields (except for $F$ itself). Then it is not hard to prove that





  • $mathbb Q$ is one such field;

  • every such field is isomorphic to $mathbb Q$.






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    We can define the field of rational numbers as the smallest ordered field.



    More precisely, let $F$ be an ordered field without subfields (except for $F$ itself). Then it is not hard to prove that





    • $mathbb Q$ is one such field;

    • every such field is isomorphic to $mathbb Q$.






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      We can define the field of rational numbers as the smallest ordered field.



      More precisely, let $F$ be an ordered field without subfields (except for $F$ itself). Then it is not hard to prove that





      • $mathbb Q$ is one such field;

      • every such field is isomorphic to $mathbb Q$.






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        We can define the field of rational numbers as the smallest ordered field.



        More precisely, let $F$ be an ordered field without subfields (except for $F$ itself). Then it is not hard to prove that





        • $mathbb Q$ is one such field;

        • every such field is isomorphic to $mathbb Q$.






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        We can define the field of rational numbers as the smallest ordered field.



        More precisely, let $F$ be an ordered field without subfields (except for $F$ itself). Then it is not hard to prove that





        • $mathbb Q$ is one such field;

        • every such field is isomorphic to $mathbb Q$.







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