ELI5: Explanation of why the product of divisors of a natural $n$ is always $n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$ where $d(n)$...
$begingroup$
I tried reading the answers on Product of Divisors of some $n$ proof and unfortunately couldn't understand them. The accepted answer mentions that
${displaystyleprod_limits{d|n}{d^2}=prod_limits{d|n}{dfrac{n}{d}} = prod_limits{d|n}{n}=n^{d(n)} }$ where $d(n)$ gives the number of divisors of a number $n$ over $mathbb N$,
which I assume proves something about the product of (every divisor of $n$ squared) being equal to $n^{d(n)}$. But I still don't get how this is related to the conclusion.
elementary-number-theory divisor-counting-function
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I tried reading the answers on Product of Divisors of some $n$ proof and unfortunately couldn't understand them. The accepted answer mentions that
${displaystyleprod_limits{d|n}{d^2}=prod_limits{d|n}{dfrac{n}{d}} = prod_limits{d|n}{n}=n^{d(n)} }$ where $d(n)$ gives the number of divisors of a number $n$ over $mathbb N$,
which I assume proves something about the product of (every divisor of $n$ squared) being equal to $n^{d(n)}$. But I still don't get how this is related to the conclusion.
elementary-number-theory divisor-counting-function
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I tried reading the answers on Product of Divisors of some $n$ proof and unfortunately couldn't understand them. The accepted answer mentions that
${displaystyleprod_limits{d|n}{d^2}=prod_limits{d|n}{dfrac{n}{d}} = prod_limits{d|n}{n}=n^{d(n)} }$ where $d(n)$ gives the number of divisors of a number $n$ over $mathbb N$,
which I assume proves something about the product of (every divisor of $n$ squared) being equal to $n^{d(n)}$. But I still don't get how this is related to the conclusion.
elementary-number-theory divisor-counting-function
$endgroup$
I tried reading the answers on Product of Divisors of some $n$ proof and unfortunately couldn't understand them. The accepted answer mentions that
${displaystyleprod_limits{d|n}{d^2}=prod_limits{d|n}{dfrac{n}{d}} = prod_limits{d|n}{n}=n^{d(n)} }$ where $d(n)$ gives the number of divisors of a number $n$ over $mathbb N$,
which I assume proves something about the product of (every divisor of $n$ squared) being equal to $n^{d(n)}$. But I still don't get how this is related to the conclusion.
elementary-number-theory divisor-counting-function
elementary-number-theory divisor-counting-function
asked Dec 13 '18 at 14:26
Nameless KingNameless King
236
236
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
1
1
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Bearer of the curse, first $d$ is a divisor of $niff$ $frac{n}{d}$ is a divisor of $n$. This is because $dcdotfrac{n}{d}=n$, and $frac{n}{d}$ is an integer. This would mean that $$prod_{dmid n} d=prod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}tag{1}$$ because both products run over the same divisors just in opposite order. Multiplying both sides of $(1)$ by $prod_{dmid n} d$ gives $$prod_{dmid n} d^2=prod_{dmid n} dprod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}=prod_{dmid n} ntag{2}$$
For the last equality you get an $n$ for each divisor $d$. There are $d(n)$ divisors, we get
$$prod_{dmid n} d^2=n^{d(n)}tag{3}$$
Now, $prod_{dmid n} d^2=left(prod_{dmid n} dright)^2$ so taking the square-root of both sides of $(3)$ yields $$prod_{dmid n} d=n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
List the factors in increasing order, then again in decreasing order, then multiply the first number in each list, the second etc. There are $d(n)$ calculations that each return $n$, so the overall product is $n^{d(n)}$. The product of $n$'s factors is just the square root of this, since we listed the factors twice.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3038064%2feli5-explanation-of-why-the-product-of-divisors-of-a-natural-n-is-always-n%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Bearer of the curse, first $d$ is a divisor of $niff$ $frac{n}{d}$ is a divisor of $n$. This is because $dcdotfrac{n}{d}=n$, and $frac{n}{d}$ is an integer. This would mean that $$prod_{dmid n} d=prod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}tag{1}$$ because both products run over the same divisors just in opposite order. Multiplying both sides of $(1)$ by $prod_{dmid n} d$ gives $$prod_{dmid n} d^2=prod_{dmid n} dprod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}=prod_{dmid n} ntag{2}$$
For the last equality you get an $n$ for each divisor $d$. There are $d(n)$ divisors, we get
$$prod_{dmid n} d^2=n^{d(n)}tag{3}$$
Now, $prod_{dmid n} d^2=left(prod_{dmid n} dright)^2$ so taking the square-root of both sides of $(3)$ yields $$prod_{dmid n} d=n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Bearer of the curse, first $d$ is a divisor of $niff$ $frac{n}{d}$ is a divisor of $n$. This is because $dcdotfrac{n}{d}=n$, and $frac{n}{d}$ is an integer. This would mean that $$prod_{dmid n} d=prod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}tag{1}$$ because both products run over the same divisors just in opposite order. Multiplying both sides of $(1)$ by $prod_{dmid n} d$ gives $$prod_{dmid n} d^2=prod_{dmid n} dprod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}=prod_{dmid n} ntag{2}$$
For the last equality you get an $n$ for each divisor $d$. There are $d(n)$ divisors, we get
$$prod_{dmid n} d^2=n^{d(n)}tag{3}$$
Now, $prod_{dmid n} d^2=left(prod_{dmid n} dright)^2$ so taking the square-root of both sides of $(3)$ yields $$prod_{dmid n} d=n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Bearer of the curse, first $d$ is a divisor of $niff$ $frac{n}{d}$ is a divisor of $n$. This is because $dcdotfrac{n}{d}=n$, and $frac{n}{d}$ is an integer. This would mean that $$prod_{dmid n} d=prod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}tag{1}$$ because both products run over the same divisors just in opposite order. Multiplying both sides of $(1)$ by $prod_{dmid n} d$ gives $$prod_{dmid n} d^2=prod_{dmid n} dprod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}=prod_{dmid n} ntag{2}$$
For the last equality you get an $n$ for each divisor $d$. There are $d(n)$ divisors, we get
$$prod_{dmid n} d^2=n^{d(n)}tag{3}$$
Now, $prod_{dmid n} d^2=left(prod_{dmid n} dright)^2$ so taking the square-root of both sides of $(3)$ yields $$prod_{dmid n} d=n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$$
$endgroup$
Bearer of the curse, first $d$ is a divisor of $niff$ $frac{n}{d}$ is a divisor of $n$. This is because $dcdotfrac{n}{d}=n$, and $frac{n}{d}$ is an integer. This would mean that $$prod_{dmid n} d=prod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}tag{1}$$ because both products run over the same divisors just in opposite order. Multiplying both sides of $(1)$ by $prod_{dmid n} d$ gives $$prod_{dmid n} d^2=prod_{dmid n} dprod_{dmid n} frac{n}{d}=prod_{dmid n} ntag{2}$$
For the last equality you get an $n$ for each divisor $d$. There are $d(n)$ divisors, we get
$$prod_{dmid n} d^2=n^{d(n)}tag{3}$$
Now, $prod_{dmid n} d^2=left(prod_{dmid n} dright)^2$ so taking the square-root of both sides of $(3)$ yields $$prod_{dmid n} d=n^{frac{d(n)}{2}}$$
edited Dec 13 '18 at 14:59
answered Dec 13 '18 at 14:51
cansomeonehelpmeoutcansomeonehelpmeout
7,0873935
7,0873935
add a comment |
add a comment |
$begingroup$
List the factors in increasing order, then again in decreasing order, then multiply the first number in each list, the second etc. There are $d(n)$ calculations that each return $n$, so the overall product is $n^{d(n)}$. The product of $n$'s factors is just the square root of this, since we listed the factors twice.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
List the factors in increasing order, then again in decreasing order, then multiply the first number in each list, the second etc. There are $d(n)$ calculations that each return $n$, so the overall product is $n^{d(n)}$. The product of $n$'s factors is just the square root of this, since we listed the factors twice.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
List the factors in increasing order, then again in decreasing order, then multiply the first number in each list, the second etc. There are $d(n)$ calculations that each return $n$, so the overall product is $n^{d(n)}$. The product of $n$'s factors is just the square root of this, since we listed the factors twice.
$endgroup$
List the factors in increasing order, then again in decreasing order, then multiply the first number in each list, the second etc. There are $d(n)$ calculations that each return $n$, so the overall product is $n^{d(n)}$. The product of $n$'s factors is just the square root of this, since we listed the factors twice.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 14:31
J.G.J.G.
28.1k22844
28.1k22844
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3038064%2feli5-explanation-of-why-the-product-of-divisors-of-a-natural-n-is-always-n%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
Which part do you find confusing? One of the equalities or just the conclusion?
$endgroup$
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Dec 13 '18 at 14:30
$begingroup$
The equality between the first two $prod$s as well as how it connects to the conclusion.
$endgroup$
– Nameless King
Dec 13 '18 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
The main idea is to pair up the divisors. For every divisor $d$ of $n$, the number $n/d$ is also a divisor of $n$.
$endgroup$
– SmileyCraft
Dec 13 '18 at 14:34
$begingroup$
The part you seem to be missing is that the product of (every divisor of n, squared) is equal to (the product of every divisor of n), squared. Taking square roots of both sides gives the result.
$endgroup$
– Slade
Dec 13 '18 at 15:10