Digit Sum Inequality Equation











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Let $Q (n)$ be the digit sum of the integers $n$. Now I want to prove that



$Q (m + n) ≤ Q (m) + Q (n)$



is valid for all positive integers $m$ and $n$.





So we can write:



$n = a_n * 10^n + a_{n−1} * 10^{n−1} + · · · + a_1 * 10^1 + a_0 *10^0$



Thus we have:



$Q(n) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



and of course:



$Q(m) = a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



Now:



$Q(m+n)= a_n+m + a_{n+m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



This equation seems to be smaller or equal to:



$Q(n) + Q(m) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0 + a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



I'll try to do an induction on n and a fixed m.










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    If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
    – David G. Stork
    Nov 19 at 19:57










  • Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:22












  • Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:23















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Let $Q (n)$ be the digit sum of the integers $n$. Now I want to prove that



$Q (m + n) ≤ Q (m) + Q (n)$



is valid for all positive integers $m$ and $n$.





So we can write:



$n = a_n * 10^n + a_{n−1} * 10^{n−1} + · · · + a_1 * 10^1 + a_0 *10^0$



Thus we have:



$Q(n) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



and of course:



$Q(m) = a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



Now:



$Q(m+n)= a_n+m + a_{n+m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



This equation seems to be smaller or equal to:



$Q(n) + Q(m) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0 + a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



I'll try to do an induction on n and a fixed m.










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    If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
    – David G. Stork
    Nov 19 at 19:57










  • Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:22












  • Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:23













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Let $Q (n)$ be the digit sum of the integers $n$. Now I want to prove that



$Q (m + n) ≤ Q (m) + Q (n)$



is valid for all positive integers $m$ and $n$.





So we can write:



$n = a_n * 10^n + a_{n−1} * 10^{n−1} + · · · + a_1 * 10^1 + a_0 *10^0$



Thus we have:



$Q(n) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



and of course:



$Q(m) = a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



Now:



$Q(m+n)= a_n+m + a_{n+m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



This equation seems to be smaller or equal to:



$Q(n) + Q(m) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0 + a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



I'll try to do an induction on n and a fixed m.










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Let $Q (n)$ be the digit sum of the integers $n$. Now I want to prove that



$Q (m + n) ≤ Q (m) + Q (n)$



is valid for all positive integers $m$ and $n$.





So we can write:



$n = a_n * 10^n + a_{n−1} * 10^{n−1} + · · · + a_1 * 10^1 + a_0 *10^0$



Thus we have:



$Q(n) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



and of course:



$Q(m) = a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



Now:



$Q(m+n)= a_n+m + a_{n+m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$



This equation seems to be smaller or equal to:



$Q(n) + Q(m) = a_n + a_{n−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0 + a_m + a_{m−1} + · · · + a_1 + a_0$.



I'll try to do an induction on n and a fixed m.







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    If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
    – David G. Stork
    Nov 19 at 19:57










  • Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:22












  • Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:23














  • 1




    If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
    – David G. Stork
    Nov 19 at 19:57










  • Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:22












  • Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
    – Macavity
    Nov 20 at 1:23








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If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
– David G. Stork
Nov 19 at 19:57




If there are no carries, then you have an equality. If there is a carry, you've added two digits and necessarily produced a smaller sum (of the $1$ carry digit and the remaining sum). QED.
– David G. Stork
Nov 19 at 19:57












Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
– Macavity
Nov 20 at 1:22






Why do you think $Q(m+n)=Q(Q(n)+Q(m))$? Try $m=n=99$
– Macavity
Nov 20 at 1:22














Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
– Macavity
Nov 20 at 1:23




Try induction on $n$ for any fixed $m$.
– Macavity
Nov 20 at 1:23















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