How to calculate $int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}$












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According to my textbook this is : $frac{sqrt{9-x^2}^3}{3} -9 sqrt{9-x^2}$. However my solution is completely different. Here's my work:



$ x = 3sin theta, dx = 3 costheta dtheta$



$$int frac{27cos^3 theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}} = int frac{27cos^3theta}{3cos^2theta} = 9intcos^2 theta$$



$$9left(int frac{1}{2} dtheta+ int cos 2thetaright) = 9left(frac{1}{2}theta + frac{sin 2theta}{2}right)$$



Solving for $theta$ yields:



$$frac{9}{2}arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right) + frac{9}{4}sinleft(2arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right)right)$$



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    where is your $mathrm dtheta$
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    Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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    @Crescendo Indeed, I forgot to put the $dtheta$
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According to my textbook this is : $frac{sqrt{9-x^2}^3}{3} -9 sqrt{9-x^2}$. However my solution is completely different. Here's my work:



$ x = 3sin theta, dx = 3 costheta dtheta$



$$int frac{27cos^3 theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}} = int frac{27cos^3theta}{3cos^2theta} = 9intcos^2 theta$$



$$9left(int frac{1}{2} dtheta+ int cos 2thetaright) = 9left(frac{1}{2}theta + frac{sin 2theta}{2}right)$$



Solving for $theta$ yields:



$$frac{9}{2}arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right) + frac{9}{4}sinleft(2arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right)right)$$



What's wrong with my solution?






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    where is your $mathrm dtheta$
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    Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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    @Crescendo Indeed, I forgot to put the $dtheta$
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According to my textbook this is : $frac{sqrt{9-x^2}^3}{3} -9 sqrt{9-x^2}$. However my solution is completely different. Here's my work:



$ x = 3sin theta, dx = 3 costheta dtheta$



$$int frac{27cos^3 theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}} = int frac{27cos^3theta}{3cos^2theta} = 9intcos^2 theta$$



$$9left(int frac{1}{2} dtheta+ int cos 2thetaright) = 9left(frac{1}{2}theta + frac{sin 2theta}{2}right)$$



Solving for $theta$ yields:



$$frac{9}{2}arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right) + frac{9}{4}sinleft(2arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right)right)$$



What's wrong with my solution?






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According to my textbook this is : $frac{sqrt{9-x^2}^3}{3} -9 sqrt{9-x^2}$. However my solution is completely different. Here's my work:



$ x = 3sin theta, dx = 3 costheta dtheta$



$$int frac{27cos^3 theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}} = int frac{27cos^3theta}{3cos^2theta} = 9intcos^2 theta$$



$$9left(int frac{1}{2} dtheta+ int cos 2thetaright) = 9left(frac{1}{2}theta + frac{sin 2theta}{2}right)$$



Solving for $theta$ yields:



$$frac{9}{2}arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right) + frac{9}{4}sinleft(2arcsinleft(frac{x}{3}right)right)$$



What's wrong with my solution?






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    where is your $mathrm dtheta$
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    Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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    @Crescendo Indeed, I forgot to put the $dtheta$
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    where is your $mathrm dtheta$
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    Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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Shouldn't your integral be$$int dtheta,frac {81sin^3thetacostheta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}$$
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@Crescendo Indeed, I forgot to put the $dtheta$
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You have two mistakes here.



$x = 3 sin theta$ I like that



$intfrac {x^3}{sqrt {9-x^2}} dx = int frac {27sin^3 theta}{sqrt {9-9sin^2theta}} (3cos theta) dtheta$



Your first mistake is at this step. Do you see where you went wrong?



next: $sqrt {9-9sin^2theta} = 3cos theta$ not $3cos^2 theta$



$int 27sin^3 theta dtheta$



Can you get home from here? If you are stuck try: $sin^2 theta = 1-cos^2theta$



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"I still can't see how $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook."



$sin (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x}{3}\
sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x^2}{9}\
1-sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
cos^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}\
cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {sqrt {9-x^2}}{3}\$



This can also be done geometrically, and I suggest you prove it this way (an exercise left to the reader).



$27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3}) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})\
27(-sqrt {1 - frac{x^2}{9}} + frac{left(sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}right)^3}{3})\
-9sqrt {9 - x^2} + frac{left(sqrt {9- x^2}right)^3}{3}
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    I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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    @Trey does this help?
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    Yes, thank you!
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$$intfrac{x^3-9x+9x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-int xsqrt{9-x^2}dx+9intfrac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=$$
$$=frac{1}{3}sqrt{(9-x^2)^3}-9sqrt{9-x^2}+C.$$






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    $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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    Yes, it's possible.
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Let $u = 9-x^2$, $dx=frac{du}{-2x}$
$$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-1/2int frac{9-u}{sqrt{u}}du=-1/2[9(2)u^{1/2}-(2/3)u^{3/2}]\=-9(9-x^2)^{1/2}+1/3(9-x^2)^{1/3}$$






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    Great answer. I don't understand why people are so stoked about trig substitutions and use for really basic integrals. Trig substitutions are such a mess, agh !
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With your substitution we have:
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int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=int frac{81sin^3 theta cos theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}d theta
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that cannot be simplified as in OP.






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    Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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    Yes we can, and the integral can be simplified, but with a different result than in your question .
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After doing your substitution, the numerator should become $81sin^3thetacostheta.$



Anyway, my suggestion is that you do $x^2=y$ and $2x,mathrm dx=mathrm dy$.






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    substituting $$u=x^2$$ then we have $$du=2xdx$$ and our integral will be
    $$frac{1}{2}intfrac{u}{sqrt{9-u}}du$$ no let $$s=9-u$$ and with $$ds=-du$$our integral is $$-frac{1}{2}intleft(frac{9}{sqrt{s}}-sqrt{s}right)ds$$






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      $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx$$
      Substitute $u=9-x^2$ then $du=-2xdx$
      $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-frac12int frac {9-u}{sqrt u}du$$






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        Plenty of good answers, but as the expression goes 'There's more than one way to skin a Cat' so I will provide another.



        $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx = int x^2 cdot frac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx $$



        Employ integration by parts:



        $$int u(x)v'(x) = u(x)v(x) - int v(x)u'(x)$$



        begin{align}
        u(x) &= x^2 & v'(x) &= frac{x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} \
        u'(x) &= 2x & v(x) &= -sqrt{9 - x^2}
        end{align}



        Thus



        begin{align}
        int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx &= x^2 cdot -sqrt{9 - x^2} - int -sqrt{9 - x^2} cdot 2x :dx \
        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 int xsqrt{9 - x^2}:dx \
        & = -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 cdot -frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C \
        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2}- frac{2}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C
        end{align}



        Where $C$ is a constant of integration






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          Why not one more method?



          begin{align}
          int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx &= int x cdot frac{x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = - int x cdot frac{-x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
          &=- int x cdot frac{-x^2 - 9 + 9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = -int x cdot left[ frac{9 - x^2}{sqrt{9 -x^2}} - frac{9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} right]:dx\
          &= -int xsqrt{9 = x^2}:dx + int frac{9x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
          &= frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} - 9sqrt{9 - x^2} + C
          end{align}



          Where $C$ is a constant of integration.






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            You have two mistakes here.



            $x = 3 sin theta$ I like that



            $intfrac {x^3}{sqrt {9-x^2}} dx = int frac {27sin^3 theta}{sqrt {9-9sin^2theta}} (3cos theta) dtheta$



            Your first mistake is at this step. Do you see where you went wrong?



            next: $sqrt {9-9sin^2theta} = 3cos theta$ not $3cos^2 theta$



            $int 27sin^3 theta dtheta$



            Can you get home from here? If you are stuck try: $sin^2 theta = 1-cos^2theta$



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            "I still can't see how $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook."



            $sin (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x}{3}\
            sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x^2}{9}\
            1-sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {sqrt {9-x^2}}{3}\$



            This can also be done geometrically, and I suggest you prove it this way (an exercise left to the reader).



            $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3}) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})\
            27(-sqrt {1 - frac{x^2}{9}} + frac{left(sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}right)^3}{3})\
            -9sqrt {9 - x^2} + frac{left(sqrt {9- x^2}right)^3}{3}
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              I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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              @Trey does this help?
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              Yes, thank you!
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            You have two mistakes here.



            $x = 3 sin theta$ I like that



            $intfrac {x^3}{sqrt {9-x^2}} dx = int frac {27sin^3 theta}{sqrt {9-9sin^2theta}} (3cos theta) dtheta$



            Your first mistake is at this step. Do you see where you went wrong?



            next: $sqrt {9-9sin^2theta} = 3cos theta$ not $3cos^2 theta$



            $int 27sin^3 theta dtheta$



            Can you get home from here? If you are stuck try: $sin^2 theta = 1-cos^2theta$



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            "I still can't see how $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook."



            $sin (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x}{3}\
            sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x^2}{9}\
            1-sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {sqrt {9-x^2}}{3}\$



            This can also be done geometrically, and I suggest you prove it this way (an exercise left to the reader).



            $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3}) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})\
            27(-sqrt {1 - frac{x^2}{9}} + frac{left(sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}right)^3}{3})\
            -9sqrt {9 - x^2} + frac{left(sqrt {9- x^2}right)^3}{3}
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              I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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              @Trey does this help?
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              Yes, thank you!
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            You have two mistakes here.



            $x = 3 sin theta$ I like that



            $intfrac {x^3}{sqrt {9-x^2}} dx = int frac {27sin^3 theta}{sqrt {9-9sin^2theta}} (3cos theta) dtheta$



            Your first mistake is at this step. Do you see where you went wrong?



            next: $sqrt {9-9sin^2theta} = 3cos theta$ not $3cos^2 theta$



            $int 27sin^3 theta dtheta$



            Can you get home from here? If you are stuck try: $sin^2 theta = 1-cos^2theta$



            Update:



            "I still can't see how $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook."



            $sin (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x}{3}\
            sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x^2}{9}\
            1-sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {sqrt {9-x^2}}{3}\$



            This can also be done geometrically, and I suggest you prove it this way (an exercise left to the reader).



            $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3}) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})\
            27(-sqrt {1 - frac{x^2}{9}} + frac{left(sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}right)^3}{3})\
            -9sqrt {9 - x^2} + frac{left(sqrt {9- x^2}right)^3}{3}
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            You have two mistakes here.



            $x = 3 sin theta$ I like that



            $intfrac {x^3}{sqrt {9-x^2}} dx = int frac {27sin^3 theta}{sqrt {9-9sin^2theta}} (3cos theta) dtheta$



            Your first mistake is at this step. Do you see where you went wrong?



            next: $sqrt {9-9sin^2theta} = 3cos theta$ not $3cos^2 theta$



            $int 27sin^3 theta dtheta$



            Can you get home from here? If you are stuck try: $sin^2 theta = 1-cos^2theta$



            Update:



            "I still can't see how $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook."



            $sin (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x}{3}\
            sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {x^2}{9}\
            1-sin^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos^2 (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = 1-frac {x^2}{9}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}\
            cos (arcsin frac {x}{3}) = frac {sqrt {9-x^2}}{3}\$



            This can also be done geometrically, and I suggest you prove it this way (an exercise left to the reader).



            $27(-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3}) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3})\
            27(-sqrt {1 - frac{x^2}{9}} + frac{left(sqrt {1-frac {x^2}{9}}right)^3}{3})\
            -9sqrt {9 - x^2} + frac{left(sqrt {9- x^2}right)^3}{3}
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              I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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              Yes, thank you!
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              I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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            I still can't see how $-cos(arcsin(frac{x}{3})) + frac{cos^3(arcsin(frac{x}{3}))}{3}$ is equivalent to the solution given in the textbook
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            Yes, thank you!
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            $$intfrac{x^3-9x+9x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-int xsqrt{9-x^2}dx+9intfrac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=$$
            $$=frac{1}{3}sqrt{(9-x^2)^3}-9sqrt{9-x^2}+C.$$






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              $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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            $$intfrac{x^3-9x+9x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-int xsqrt{9-x^2}dx+9intfrac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=$$
            $$=frac{1}{3}sqrt{(9-x^2)^3}-9sqrt{9-x^2}+C.$$






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              $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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            $$intfrac{x^3-9x+9x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-int xsqrt{9-x^2}dx+9intfrac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=$$
            $$=frac{1}{3}sqrt{(9-x^2)^3}-9sqrt{9-x^2}+C.$$






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            $$intfrac{x^3-9x+9x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-int xsqrt{9-x^2}dx+9intfrac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=$$
            $$=frac{1}{3}sqrt{(9-x^2)^3}-9sqrt{9-x^2}+C.$$







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            answered Feb 2 '18 at 19:45









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              $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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              $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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            $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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            $$= sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(frac 13left(9 - x^2right) - 9bigg) + C = -sqrt{9 - x^2}bigg(6 + frac{x^2}{3}bigg) + C$$ I think.
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            Yes, it's possible.
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            Let $u = 9-x^2$, $dx=frac{du}{-2x}$
            $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-1/2int frac{9-u}{sqrt{u}}du=-1/2[9(2)u^{1/2}-(2/3)u^{3/2}]\=-9(9-x^2)^{1/2}+1/3(9-x^2)^{1/3}$$






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            Let $u = 9-x^2$, $dx=frac{du}{-2x}$
            $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-1/2int frac{9-u}{sqrt{u}}du=-1/2[9(2)u^{1/2}-(2/3)u^{3/2}]\=-9(9-x^2)^{1/2}+1/3(9-x^2)^{1/3}$$






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            Let $u = 9-x^2$, $dx=frac{du}{-2x}$
            $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-1/2int frac{9-u}{sqrt{u}}du=-1/2[9(2)u^{1/2}-(2/3)u^{3/2}]\=-9(9-x^2)^{1/2}+1/3(9-x^2)^{1/3}$$






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            Let $u = 9-x^2$, $dx=frac{du}{-2x}$
            $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-1/2int frac{9-u}{sqrt{u}}du=-1/2[9(2)u^{1/2}-(2/3)u^{3/2}]\=-9(9-x^2)^{1/2}+1/3(9-x^2)^{1/3}$$







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              Great answer. I don't understand why people are so stoked about trig substitutions and use for really basic integrals. Trig substitutions are such a mess, agh !
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            Great answer. I don't understand why people are so stoked about trig substitutions and use for really basic integrals. Trig substitutions are such a mess, agh !
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            $begingroup$
            Great answer. I don't understand why people are so stoked about trig substitutions and use for really basic integrals. Trig substitutions are such a mess, agh !
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            With your substitution we have:
            $$
            int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=int frac{81sin^3 theta cos theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}d theta
            $$



            that cannot be simplified as in OP.






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              Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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            With your substitution we have:
            $$
            int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=int frac{81sin^3 theta cos theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}d theta
            $$



            that cannot be simplified as in OP.






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              Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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            With your substitution we have:
            $$
            int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=int frac{81sin^3 theta cos theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}d theta
            $$



            that cannot be simplified as in OP.






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            With your substitution we have:
            $$
            int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=int frac{81sin^3 theta cos theta}{sqrt{9-9sin^2theta}}d theta
            $$



            that cannot be simplified as in OP.







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              Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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              Yes we can, and the integral can be simplified, but with a different result than in your question .
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              Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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              Yes we can, and the integral can be simplified, but with a different result than in your question .
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            Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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            Can't I rewrite the denominator as $sqrt{9(1-sin^2theta)}$ which in turn gives ${3costheta}$?
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            Yes we can, and the integral can be simplified, but with a different result than in your question .
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            After doing your substitution, the numerator should become $81sin^3thetacostheta.$



            Anyway, my suggestion is that you do $x^2=y$ and $2x,mathrm dx=mathrm dy$.






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              After doing your substitution, the numerator should become $81sin^3thetacostheta.$



              Anyway, my suggestion is that you do $x^2=y$ and $2x,mathrm dx=mathrm dy$.






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                After doing your substitution, the numerator should become $81sin^3thetacostheta.$



                Anyway, my suggestion is that you do $x^2=y$ and $2x,mathrm dx=mathrm dy$.






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                After doing your substitution, the numerator should become $81sin^3thetacostheta.$



                Anyway, my suggestion is that you do $x^2=y$ and $2x,mathrm dx=mathrm dy$.







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                answered Feb 2 '18 at 19:09









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                    substituting $$u=x^2$$ then we have $$du=2xdx$$ and our integral will be
                    $$frac{1}{2}intfrac{u}{sqrt{9-u}}du$$ no let $$s=9-u$$ and with $$ds=-du$$our integral is $$-frac{1}{2}intleft(frac{9}{sqrt{s}}-sqrt{s}right)ds$$






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                      substituting $$u=x^2$$ then we have $$du=2xdx$$ and our integral will be
                      $$frac{1}{2}intfrac{u}{sqrt{9-u}}du$$ no let $$s=9-u$$ and with $$ds=-du$$our integral is $$-frac{1}{2}intleft(frac{9}{sqrt{s}}-sqrt{s}right)ds$$






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                        substituting $$u=x^2$$ then we have $$du=2xdx$$ and our integral will be
                        $$frac{1}{2}intfrac{u}{sqrt{9-u}}du$$ no let $$s=9-u$$ and with $$ds=-du$$our integral is $$-frac{1}{2}intleft(frac{9}{sqrt{s}}-sqrt{s}right)ds$$






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                        substituting $$u=x^2$$ then we have $$du=2xdx$$ and our integral will be
                        $$frac{1}{2}intfrac{u}{sqrt{9-u}}du$$ no let $$s=9-u$$ and with $$ds=-du$$our integral is $$-frac{1}{2}intleft(frac{9}{sqrt{s}}-sqrt{s}right)ds$$







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                            $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx$$
                            Substitute $u=9-x^2$ then $du=-2xdx$
                            $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-frac12int frac {9-u}{sqrt u}du$$






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                              $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx$$
                              Substitute $u=9-x^2$ then $du=-2xdx$
                              $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-frac12int frac {9-u}{sqrt u}du$$






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                                $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx$$
                                Substitute $u=9-x^2$ then $du=-2xdx$
                                $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-frac12int frac {9-u}{sqrt u}du$$






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                                $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx$$
                                Substitute $u=9-x^2$ then $du=-2xdx$
                                $$I=int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}dx=-frac12int frac {9-u}{sqrt u}du$$







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                                    Plenty of good answers, but as the expression goes 'There's more than one way to skin a Cat' so I will provide another.



                                    $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx = int x^2 cdot frac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx $$



                                    Employ integration by parts:



                                    $$int u(x)v'(x) = u(x)v(x) - int v(x)u'(x)$$



                                    begin{align}
                                    u(x) &= x^2 & v'(x) &= frac{x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} \
                                    u'(x) &= 2x & v(x) &= -sqrt{9 - x^2}
                                    end{align}



                                    Thus



                                    begin{align}
                                    int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx &= x^2 cdot -sqrt{9 - x^2} - int -sqrt{9 - x^2} cdot 2x :dx \
                                    &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 int xsqrt{9 - x^2}:dx \
                                    & = -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 cdot -frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C \
                                    &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2}- frac{2}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C
                                    end{align}



                                    Where $C$ is a constant of integration






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                                      Plenty of good answers, but as the expression goes 'There's more than one way to skin a Cat' so I will provide another.



                                      $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx = int x^2 cdot frac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx $$



                                      Employ integration by parts:



                                      $$int u(x)v'(x) = u(x)v(x) - int v(x)u'(x)$$



                                      begin{align}
                                      u(x) &= x^2 & v'(x) &= frac{x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} \
                                      u'(x) &= 2x & v(x) &= -sqrt{9 - x^2}
                                      end{align}



                                      Thus



                                      begin{align}
                                      int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx &= x^2 cdot -sqrt{9 - x^2} - int -sqrt{9 - x^2} cdot 2x :dx \
                                      &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 int xsqrt{9 - x^2}:dx \
                                      & = -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 cdot -frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C \
                                      &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2}- frac{2}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C
                                      end{align}



                                      Where $C$ is a constant of integration






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                                        Plenty of good answers, but as the expression goes 'There's more than one way to skin a Cat' so I will provide another.



                                        $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx = int x^2 cdot frac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx $$



                                        Employ integration by parts:



                                        $$int u(x)v'(x) = u(x)v(x) - int v(x)u'(x)$$



                                        begin{align}
                                        u(x) &= x^2 & v'(x) &= frac{x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} \
                                        u'(x) &= 2x & v(x) &= -sqrt{9 - x^2}
                                        end{align}



                                        Thus



                                        begin{align}
                                        int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx &= x^2 cdot -sqrt{9 - x^2} - int -sqrt{9 - x^2} cdot 2x :dx \
                                        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 int xsqrt{9 - x^2}:dx \
                                        & = -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 cdot -frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C \
                                        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2}- frac{2}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C
                                        end{align}



                                        Where $C$ is a constant of integration






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                                        Plenty of good answers, but as the expression goes 'There's more than one way to skin a Cat' so I will provide another.



                                        $$int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx = int x^2 cdot frac{x}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx $$



                                        Employ integration by parts:



                                        $$int u(x)v'(x) = u(x)v(x) - int v(x)u'(x)$$



                                        begin{align}
                                        u(x) &= x^2 & v'(x) &= frac{x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} \
                                        u'(x) &= 2x & v(x) &= -sqrt{9 - x^2}
                                        end{align}



                                        Thus



                                        begin{align}
                                        int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9-x^2}}:dx &= x^2 cdot -sqrt{9 - x^2} - int -sqrt{9 - x^2} cdot 2x :dx \
                                        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 int xsqrt{9 - x^2}:dx \
                                        & = -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2} + 2 cdot -frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C \
                                        &= -x^2sqrt{9 - x^2}- frac{2}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} + C
                                        end{align}



                                        Where $C$ is a constant of integration







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                                            Why not one more method?



                                            begin{align}
                                            int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx &= int x cdot frac{x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = - int x cdot frac{-x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                            &=- int x cdot frac{-x^2 - 9 + 9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = -int x cdot left[ frac{9 - x^2}{sqrt{9 -x^2}} - frac{9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} right]:dx\
                                            &= -int xsqrt{9 = x^2}:dx + int frac{9x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                            &= frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} - 9sqrt{9 - x^2} + C
                                            end{align}



                                            Where $C$ is a constant of integration.






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                                              begin{align}
                                              int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx &= int x cdot frac{x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = - int x cdot frac{-x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                              &=- int x cdot frac{-x^2 - 9 + 9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = -int x cdot left[ frac{9 - x^2}{sqrt{9 -x^2}} - frac{9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} right]:dx\
                                              &= -int xsqrt{9 = x^2}:dx + int frac{9x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                              &= frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} - 9sqrt{9 - x^2} + C
                                              end{align}



                                              Where $C$ is a constant of integration.






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                                                Why not one more method?



                                                begin{align}
                                                int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx &= int x cdot frac{x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = - int x cdot frac{-x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                                &=- int x cdot frac{-x^2 - 9 + 9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = -int x cdot left[ frac{9 - x^2}{sqrt{9 -x^2}} - frac{9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} right]:dx\
                                                &= -int xsqrt{9 = x^2}:dx + int frac{9x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                                &= frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} - 9sqrt{9 - x^2} + C
                                                end{align}



                                                Where $C$ is a constant of integration.






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                                                Why not one more method?



                                                begin{align}
                                                int frac{x^3}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx &= int x cdot frac{x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = - int x cdot frac{-x^2}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                                &=- int x cdot frac{-x^2 - 9 + 9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx = -int x cdot left[ frac{9 - x^2}{sqrt{9 -x^2}} - frac{9}{sqrt{9 - x^2}} right]:dx\
                                                &= -int xsqrt{9 = x^2}:dx + int frac{9x}{sqrt{9 - x^2}}:dx \
                                                &= frac{1}{3}left(9 - x^2right)^{frac{3}{2}} - 9sqrt{9 - x^2} + C
                                                end{align}



                                                Where $C$ is a constant of integration.







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