What is dedjatch?
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
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@Mitch I've added the links.
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
meaning
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
2 hours ago
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
2 hours ago
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
2 hours ago
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
2 hours ago
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
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Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered 2 hours ago
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered 1 hour ago
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
1 hour ago
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered 1 hour ago
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
1 hour ago
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered 1 hour ago
Mitch
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
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as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered 2 hours ago
Dlayd
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– Dlayd
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered 2 hours ago
Dlayd
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered 2 hours ago
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
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as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
2 hours ago
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as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
2 hours ago
Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
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as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
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@Mitch I've added the links.
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