Accumulation points: an example of a sequence that has exactly two accumulation points












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The definition in my text defines A.P. as: A point p is an A.P. of a set S if it is the limit of a sequence of points of S-{p}.



I am confused by my classnotes and information about A.P. in my textbook is not enough for me to understand the topic.










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  • So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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The definition in my text defines A.P. as: A point p is an A.P. of a set S if it is the limit of a sequence of points of S-{p}.



I am confused by my classnotes and information about A.P. in my textbook is not enough for me to understand the topic.










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  • So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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The definition in my text defines A.P. as: A point p is an A.P. of a set S if it is the limit of a sequence of points of S-{p}.



I am confused by my classnotes and information about A.P. in my textbook is not enough for me to understand the topic.










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The definition in my text defines A.P. as: A point p is an A.P. of a set S if it is the limit of a sequence of points of S-{p}.



I am confused by my classnotes and information about A.P. in my textbook is not enough for me to understand the topic.







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  • So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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  • So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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So: "accumulation point" is for a set not for a sequence ??
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The sequence $(-1)^nleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$ has exactly two A.Ps $1$ and $-1$.



More generally if $(a_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ is a sequence s.t. $a_n to a neq0 $ and the set ${a_n:n in mathbb{N}}$ is infinite then the sequence $((-1)^na_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ has exactly two accumulation points $a$ and $-a$.






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  • how can this be proved?
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  • Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
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Exactly two accumulation points can be done using the sequence
$$frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots,$$
and in many other ways. In this case the accumulation points are $0$ and $1$.



Here I intend the set $S$ of the definition to be ${frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots}$. We could work with a somewhat larger set for $S$, by, in addition to the points mentioned, throwing in all the integers, or something else that would not produce additional accumulation points.






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  • I presume your set is the unit interval?
    – Lord_Farin
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  • No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
    – André Nicolas
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:05










  • Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
    – Lord_Farin
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This seems a little vague.
What is your question? Do you want an example of the sequence or do you want more info. about accumulation points?



Intuitively, accumulations points are the points of the set S which are not isolated.



e.g. 1 is an A.P. of (0,1) but 2 is not an A.P of $(0,1) cup$ {2} (because it's isolated.) To prove this, the set $X = $ ($(0,1) cup$ {2} ) - {2} = $(0,1)$ but 2 is not the limit of a sequence in $(0,1)$ so 2 is not an A.P. of $(0,1) cup$ {2}



from there its pretty easy to construct such a sequence.






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Point $p$ is accumulation point of a set $S$, if every punctured neighborhood of the point $p$ contains points of $S.$ (In other words, if there exists sequence ${x_n} subset S$ that converges to $p.$)
Set $$S={left lbrace sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} right rbrace}_{n in mathbb{N}}=left lbrace sin{1}, cos{1},sin{dfrac{1}{2}}, cos{dfrac{1}{2}}, ldots, sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} , ldots right rbrace$$ has exactly two accumulation points.






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    The sequence $(-1)^nleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$ has exactly two A.Ps $1$ and $-1$.



    More generally if $(a_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ is a sequence s.t. $a_n to a neq0 $ and the set ${a_n:n in mathbb{N}}$ is infinite then the sequence $((-1)^na_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ has exactly two accumulation points $a$ and $-a$.






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    • how can this be proved?
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    • Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
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    The sequence $(-1)^nleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$ has exactly two A.Ps $1$ and $-1$.



    More generally if $(a_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ is a sequence s.t. $a_n to a neq0 $ and the set ${a_n:n in mathbb{N}}$ is infinite then the sequence $((-1)^na_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ has exactly two accumulation points $a$ and $-a$.






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    • how can this be proved?
      – Maximiliano
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:14












    • Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
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    The sequence $(-1)^nleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$ has exactly two A.Ps $1$ and $-1$.



    More generally if $(a_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ is a sequence s.t. $a_n to a neq0 $ and the set ${a_n:n in mathbb{N}}$ is infinite then the sequence $((-1)^na_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ has exactly two accumulation points $a$ and $-a$.






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    The sequence $(-1)^nleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$ has exactly two A.Ps $1$ and $-1$.



    More generally if $(a_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ is a sequence s.t. $a_n to a neq0 $ and the set ${a_n:n in mathbb{N}}$ is infinite then the sequence $((-1)^na_n)_{nin mathbb{N}}$ has exactly two accumulation points $a$ and $-a$.







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    • how can this be proved?
      – Maximiliano
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    • Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
      – P..
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    • how can this be proved?
      – Maximiliano
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:14












    • Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
      – P..
      Nov 26 at 0:53


















    how can this be proved?
    – Maximiliano
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:14






    how can this be proved?
    – Maximiliano
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:14














    Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
    – P..
    Nov 26 at 0:53






    Prove that $a_{2n}rightarrow a , a_{2n+1}rightarrow −a ,a_{2n}neq a ,a_{2n+1}neq −a$, for (almost) all $ninmathbb N$. Also show that $a$ and $−a$ are the only numbers that can be the limit points of subsequences of $(a_n)_{ninmathbb N}$.
    – P..
    Nov 26 at 0:53













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    Exactly two accumulation points can be done using the sequence
    $$frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots,$$
    and in many other ways. In this case the accumulation points are $0$ and $1$.



    Here I intend the set $S$ of the definition to be ${frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots}$. We could work with a somewhat larger set for $S$, by, in addition to the points mentioned, throwing in all the integers, or something else that would not produce additional accumulation points.






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    • I presume your set is the unit interval?
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 20:57










    • No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
      – André Nicolas
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05










    • Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05
















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    Exactly two accumulation points can be done using the sequence
    $$frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots,$$
    and in many other ways. In this case the accumulation points are $0$ and $1$.



    Here I intend the set $S$ of the definition to be ${frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots}$. We could work with a somewhat larger set for $S$, by, in addition to the points mentioned, throwing in all the integers, or something else that would not produce additional accumulation points.






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    • I presume your set is the unit interval?
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 20:57










    • No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
      – André Nicolas
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05










    • Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05














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    Exactly two accumulation points can be done using the sequence
    $$frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots,$$
    and in many other ways. In this case the accumulation points are $0$ and $1$.



    Here I intend the set $S$ of the definition to be ${frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots}$. We could work with a somewhat larger set for $S$, by, in addition to the points mentioned, throwing in all the integers, or something else that would not produce additional accumulation points.






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    Exactly two accumulation points can be done using the sequence
    $$frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots,$$
    and in many other ways. In this case the accumulation points are $0$ and $1$.



    Here I intend the set $S$ of the definition to be ${frac{1}{3}, frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},frac{3}{4}, frac{1}{5},frac{4}{5},frac{1}{6}, frac{5}{6},frac{1}{7}, frac{6}{7},dots}$. We could work with a somewhat larger set for $S$, by, in addition to the points mentioned, throwing in all the integers, or something else that would not produce additional accumulation points.







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    • I presume your set is the unit interval?
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 20:57










    • No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
      – André Nicolas
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05










    • Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05


















    • I presume your set is the unit interval?
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 20:57










    • No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
      – André Nicolas
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05










    • Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
      – Lord_Farin
      Oct 24 '12 at 21:05
















    I presume your set is the unit interval?
    – Lord_Farin
    Oct 24 '12 at 20:57




    I presume your set is the unit interval?
    – Lord_Farin
    Oct 24 '12 at 20:57












    No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
    – André Nicolas
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:05




    No, my set $S$ is the set ${frac{1}{3},frac{2}{3},frac{1}{4},dots}$.
    – André Nicolas
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:05












    Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
    – Lord_Farin
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:05




    Of course; I just wanted to explicate stuff in case OP desired that $p in S$.
    – Lord_Farin
    Oct 24 '12 at 21:05











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    This seems a little vague.
    What is your question? Do you want an example of the sequence or do you want more info. about accumulation points?



    Intuitively, accumulations points are the points of the set S which are not isolated.



    e.g. 1 is an A.P. of (0,1) but 2 is not an A.P of $(0,1) cup$ {2} (because it's isolated.) To prove this, the set $X = $ ($(0,1) cup$ {2} ) - {2} = $(0,1)$ but 2 is not the limit of a sequence in $(0,1)$ so 2 is not an A.P. of $(0,1) cup$ {2}



    from there its pretty easy to construct such a sequence.






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    • Yes an example of a sequence
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    This seems a little vague.
    What is your question? Do you want an example of the sequence or do you want more info. about accumulation points?



    Intuitively, accumulations points are the points of the set S which are not isolated.



    e.g. 1 is an A.P. of (0,1) but 2 is not an A.P of $(0,1) cup$ {2} (because it's isolated.) To prove this, the set $X = $ ($(0,1) cup$ {2} ) - {2} = $(0,1)$ but 2 is not the limit of a sequence in $(0,1)$ so 2 is not an A.P. of $(0,1) cup$ {2}



    from there its pretty easy to construct such a sequence.






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    • Yes an example of a sequence
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    This seems a little vague.
    What is your question? Do you want an example of the sequence or do you want more info. about accumulation points?



    Intuitively, accumulations points are the points of the set S which are not isolated.



    e.g. 1 is an A.P. of (0,1) but 2 is not an A.P of $(0,1) cup$ {2} (because it's isolated.) To prove this, the set $X = $ ($(0,1) cup$ {2} ) - {2} = $(0,1)$ but 2 is not the limit of a sequence in $(0,1)$ so 2 is not an A.P. of $(0,1) cup$ {2}



    from there its pretty easy to construct such a sequence.






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    This seems a little vague.
    What is your question? Do you want an example of the sequence or do you want more info. about accumulation points?



    Intuitively, accumulations points are the points of the set S which are not isolated.



    e.g. 1 is an A.P. of (0,1) but 2 is not an A.P of $(0,1) cup$ {2} (because it's isolated.) To prove this, the set $X = $ ($(0,1) cup$ {2} ) - {2} = $(0,1)$ but 2 is not the limit of a sequence in $(0,1)$ so 2 is not an A.P. of $(0,1) cup$ {2}



    from there its pretty easy to construct such a sequence.







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    • Yes an example of a sequence
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    • Yes an example of a sequence
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    Yes an example of a sequence
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    Yes an example of a sequence
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    Point $p$ is accumulation point of a set $S$, if every punctured neighborhood of the point $p$ contains points of $S.$ (In other words, if there exists sequence ${x_n} subset S$ that converges to $p.$)
    Set $$S={left lbrace sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} right rbrace}_{n in mathbb{N}}=left lbrace sin{1}, cos{1},sin{dfrac{1}{2}}, cos{dfrac{1}{2}}, ldots, sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} , ldots right rbrace$$ has exactly two accumulation points.






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      Point $p$ is accumulation point of a set $S$, if every punctured neighborhood of the point $p$ contains points of $S.$ (In other words, if there exists sequence ${x_n} subset S$ that converges to $p.$)
      Set $$S={left lbrace sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} right rbrace}_{n in mathbb{N}}=left lbrace sin{1}, cos{1},sin{dfrac{1}{2}}, cos{dfrac{1}{2}}, ldots, sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} , ldots right rbrace$$ has exactly two accumulation points.






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        Point $p$ is accumulation point of a set $S$, if every punctured neighborhood of the point $p$ contains points of $S.$ (In other words, if there exists sequence ${x_n} subset S$ that converges to $p.$)
        Set $$S={left lbrace sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} right rbrace}_{n in mathbb{N}}=left lbrace sin{1}, cos{1},sin{dfrac{1}{2}}, cos{dfrac{1}{2}}, ldots, sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} , ldots right rbrace$$ has exactly two accumulation points.






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        Point $p$ is accumulation point of a set $S$, if every punctured neighborhood of the point $p$ contains points of $S.$ (In other words, if there exists sequence ${x_n} subset S$ that converges to $p.$)
        Set $$S={left lbrace sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} right rbrace}_{n in mathbb{N}}=left lbrace sin{1}, cos{1},sin{dfrac{1}{2}}, cos{dfrac{1}{2}}, ldots, sin{dfrac{1}{n}}, cos{dfrac{1}{n}} , ldots right rbrace$$ has exactly two accumulation points.







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