Figure out the lengths of edges












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I try to recreate the following:



enter image description here



Here is the link.
http://tilings.math.uni-bielefeld.de/substitution/cyclotomic-trapezoids-9-fold/



This might help (formula is uncorrected formatted here cause I don't know how to do that):




each one the union of two triangles with edge lengths of the form
sin(k π/n).




So far I have figured out that there are 4 different lengths for the edges.
Here is a image of how P0 is split up:



enter image description here



a, b, c and d are edge lengths.
A, B, C etc. are corners.



The 2 long sides of shape P0 is a for example.
When splitting up a becomes a+a+c.



This is for all 4 edges:



a = a+a+c
b = b+d
c = a+c+d
d = b+c+d



They all depend on each other making it even harder.
Is there a way to figure the lengths out?



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    I try to recreate the following:



    enter image description here



    Here is the link.
    http://tilings.math.uni-bielefeld.de/substitution/cyclotomic-trapezoids-9-fold/



    This might help (formula is uncorrected formatted here cause I don't know how to do that):




    each one the union of two triangles with edge lengths of the form
    sin(k π/n).




    So far I have figured out that there are 4 different lengths for the edges.
    Here is a image of how P0 is split up:



    enter image description here



    a, b, c and d are edge lengths.
    A, B, C etc. are corners.



    The 2 long sides of shape P0 is a for example.
    When splitting up a becomes a+a+c.



    This is for all 4 edges:



    a = a+a+c
    b = b+d
    c = a+c+d
    d = b+c+d



    They all depend on each other making it even harder.
    Is there a way to figure the lengths out?



    (more tags suggestion are welcome, I'm no math guru).










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      I try to recreate the following:



      enter image description here



      Here is the link.
      http://tilings.math.uni-bielefeld.de/substitution/cyclotomic-trapezoids-9-fold/



      This might help (formula is uncorrected formatted here cause I don't know how to do that):




      each one the union of two triangles with edge lengths of the form
      sin(k π/n).




      So far I have figured out that there are 4 different lengths for the edges.
      Here is a image of how P0 is split up:



      enter image description here



      a, b, c and d are edge lengths.
      A, B, C etc. are corners.



      The 2 long sides of shape P0 is a for example.
      When splitting up a becomes a+a+c.



      This is for all 4 edges:



      a = a+a+c
      b = b+d
      c = a+c+d
      d = b+c+d



      They all depend on each other making it even harder.
      Is there a way to figure the lengths out?



      (more tags suggestion are welcome, I'm no math guru).










      share|cite|improve this question













      I try to recreate the following:



      enter image description here



      Here is the link.
      http://tilings.math.uni-bielefeld.de/substitution/cyclotomic-trapezoids-9-fold/



      This might help (formula is uncorrected formatted here cause I don't know how to do that):




      each one the union of two triangles with edge lengths of the form
      sin(k π/n).




      So far I have figured out that there are 4 different lengths for the edges.
      Here is a image of how P0 is split up:



      enter image description here



      a, b, c and d are edge lengths.
      A, B, C etc. are corners.



      The 2 long sides of shape P0 is a for example.
      When splitting up a becomes a+a+c.



      This is for all 4 edges:



      a = a+a+c
      b = b+d
      c = a+c+d
      d = b+c+d



      They all depend on each other making it even harder.
      Is there a way to figure the lengths out?



      (more tags suggestion are welcome, I'm no math guru).







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          You might consider a limiting process. For that one just set up the substitution matrix



          $$S=begin{pmatrix}
          2 & 0 & 1 & 0\
          0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
          1 & 0 & 1 & 1\
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1
          end{pmatrix}$$

          Then use for starting vector say $v=(1, 1, 1, 1)^T$ and apply $S$ to it over and over again, i.e. consider
          $$lim_{ntoinfty}S^n v$$
          - when being normalized on the way - that ought approximate the relative lengths.



          --- rk






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          • I guess the Dr. in your name is well deserved.
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          The shorter answer already is contained within the cited website. There it states that the tiles have side length of the form $sin(pi k/n)$ and the title further states "9-fold", i.e. $n=9$.



          --- rk






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          You might consider a limiting process. For that one just set up the substitution matrix



          $$S=begin{pmatrix}
          2 & 0 & 1 & 0\
          0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
          1 & 0 & 1 & 1\
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1
          end{pmatrix}$$

          Then use for starting vector say $v=(1, 1, 1, 1)^T$ and apply $S$ to it over and over again, i.e. consider
          $$lim_{ntoinfty}S^n v$$
          - when being normalized on the way - that ought approximate the relative lengths.



          --- rk






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          • I guess the Dr. in your name is well deserved.
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          You might consider a limiting process. For that one just set up the substitution matrix



          $$S=begin{pmatrix}
          2 & 0 & 1 & 0\
          0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
          1 & 0 & 1 & 1\
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1
          end{pmatrix}$$

          Then use for starting vector say $v=(1, 1, 1, 1)^T$ and apply $S$ to it over and over again, i.e. consider
          $$lim_{ntoinfty}S^n v$$
          - when being normalized on the way - that ought approximate the relative lengths.



          --- rk






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          • I guess the Dr. in your name is well deserved.
            – clankill3r
            Nov 27 '18 at 21:27














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          You might consider a limiting process. For that one just set up the substitution matrix



          $$S=begin{pmatrix}
          2 & 0 & 1 & 0\
          0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
          1 & 0 & 1 & 1\
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1
          end{pmatrix}$$

          Then use for starting vector say $v=(1, 1, 1, 1)^T$ and apply $S$ to it over and over again, i.e. consider
          $$lim_{ntoinfty}S^n v$$
          - when being normalized on the way - that ought approximate the relative lengths.



          --- rk






          share|cite|improve this answer












          You might consider a limiting process. For that one just set up the substitution matrix



          $$S=begin{pmatrix}
          2 & 0 & 1 & 0\
          0 & 1 & 0 & 1\
          1 & 0 & 1 & 1\
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1
          end{pmatrix}$$

          Then use for starting vector say $v=(1, 1, 1, 1)^T$ and apply $S$ to it over and over again, i.e. consider
          $$lim_{ntoinfty}S^n v$$
          - when being normalized on the way - that ought approximate the relative lengths.



          --- rk







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          answered Nov 27 '18 at 20:05









          Dr. Richard Klitzing

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          I guess the Dr. in your name is well deserved.
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          Nov 27 '18 at 21:27




          I guess the Dr. in your name is well deserved.
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          The shorter answer already is contained within the cited website. There it states that the tiles have side length of the form $sin(pi k/n)$ and the title further states "9-fold", i.e. $n=9$.



          --- rk






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          The shorter answer already is contained within the cited website. There it states that the tiles have side length of the form $sin(pi k/n)$ and the title further states "9-fold", i.e. $n=9$.



          --- rk






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          • Where does the k stand for?
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            Nov 27 '18 at 21:26














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          The shorter answer already is contained within the cited website. There it states that the tiles have side length of the form $sin(pi k/n)$ and the title further states "9-fold", i.e. $n=9$.



          --- rk






          share|cite|improve this answer












          The shorter answer already is contained within the cited website. There it states that the tiles have side length of the form $sin(pi k/n)$ and the title further states "9-fold", i.e. $n=9$.



          --- rk







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          answered Nov 27 '18 at 20:12









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          Where does the k stand for?
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          Where does the k stand for?
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