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I want to find $x$ such that



$$e^{-ix}(1+e^{-ix}) = -1$$



I was able to see that it was the same as $cos x = -0.5$ with a bit of work, but I think there must be a faster way since usually questions from GATE exam have elegant solutions.



Let me give some context, I needed to solve this equation in order to find the frequencies rejected by a digital system. Question 10.2 (GATE IN 2003 digital systems rejection of frequencies cause gain is zero)



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The following is my attempt



my attempt to find x



So I wanted an alternative way to solve it, it would be nice if it was faster by hand and also any fast way to find the general form for x once we it's a set of angles?






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    I want to find $x$ such that



    $$e^{-ix}(1+e^{-ix}) = -1$$



    I was able to see that it was the same as $cos x = -0.5$ with a bit of work, but I think there must be a faster way since usually questions from GATE exam have elegant solutions.



    Let me give some context, I needed to solve this equation in order to find the frequencies rejected by a digital system. Question 10.2 (GATE IN 2003 digital systems rejection of frequencies cause gain is zero)



    question 10.2 from GATE IN 2003



    The following is my attempt



    my attempt to find x



    So I wanted an alternative way to solve it, it would be nice if it was faster by hand and also any fast way to find the general form for x once we it's a set of angles?






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      I want to find $x$ such that



      $$e^{-ix}(1+e^{-ix}) = -1$$



      I was able to see that it was the same as $cos x = -0.5$ with a bit of work, but I think there must be a faster way since usually questions from GATE exam have elegant solutions.



      Let me give some context, I needed to solve this equation in order to find the frequencies rejected by a digital system. Question 10.2 (GATE IN 2003 digital systems rejection of frequencies cause gain is zero)



      question 10.2 from GATE IN 2003



      The following is my attempt



      my attempt to find x



      So I wanted an alternative way to solve it, it would be nice if it was faster by hand and also any fast way to find the general form for x once we it's a set of angles?






      algebra-precalculus trigonometry polynomials complex-numbers alternative-proof







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      I want to find $x$ such that



      $$e^{-ix}(1+e^{-ix}) = -1$$



      I was able to see that it was the same as $cos x = -0.5$ with a bit of work, but I think there must be a faster way since usually questions from GATE exam have elegant solutions.



      Let me give some context, I needed to solve this equation in order to find the frequencies rejected by a digital system. Question 10.2 (GATE IN 2003 digital systems rejection of frequencies cause gain is zero)



      question 10.2 from GATE IN 2003



      The following is my attempt



      my attempt to find x



      So I wanted an alternative way to solve it, it would be nice if it was faster by hand and also any fast way to find the general form for x once we it's a set of angles?






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          This just a quadratic equation in $z=e^{-ix}$, where $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)$. Use the quadratic formula to solve
          $$z^2+z+1=0,$$
          to find that $z=frac{-1pmsqrt{-3}}{2}=-frac{1}{2}pmfrac{1}{2}sqrt{3}i$, and hence that $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)=-frac{1}{2}$.






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            There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
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          $$begin{align}
          e^{-ix}left(1+e^{-ix}right)=-1 &quadtoquad1 + e^{-ix} = -e^{ix} \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad e^{ix}+e^{-ix}=-1 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad frac12left(e^{ix}+e^{-ix}right) = -frac12 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad cos x = -frac12
          end{align}$$






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            Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
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          Just take modulus and square the equation. You will get $cos, x=-0.5$ immediately.



          $$|e^{-ix}|^{2} |1+e^{-ix}|^{2}= |-1|^{2}$$



          $$1 times left ( (1+cos x)^2 +(-sin x)^2 right ) = 1$$



          $$ 2 + 2 cos x = 1 $$



          So $cos, x=frac{1-2}{2}$!!






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            Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
            – A.Γ.
            Nov 26 at 8:27






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            What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
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            Nov 26 at 8:33













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          This just a quadratic equation in $z=e^{-ix}$, where $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)$. Use the quadratic formula to solve
          $$z^2+z+1=0,$$
          to find that $z=frac{-1pmsqrt{-3}}{2}=-frac{1}{2}pmfrac{1}{2}sqrt{3}i$, and hence that $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)=-frac{1}{2}$.






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          • Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38








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            There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
            – Szeto
            Nov 26 at 8:47












          • @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
            – Servaes
            Nov 26 at 8:48
















          6














          This just a quadratic equation in $z=e^{-ix}$, where $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)$. Use the quadratic formula to solve
          $$z^2+z+1=0,$$
          to find that $z=frac{-1pmsqrt{-3}}{2}=-frac{1}{2}pmfrac{1}{2}sqrt{3}i$, and hence that $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)=-frac{1}{2}$.






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          • Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38








          • 1




            There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
            – Szeto
            Nov 26 at 8:47












          • @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
            – Servaes
            Nov 26 at 8:48














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          This just a quadratic equation in $z=e^{-ix}$, where $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)$. Use the quadratic formula to solve
          $$z^2+z+1=0,$$
          to find that $z=frac{-1pmsqrt{-3}}{2}=-frac{1}{2}pmfrac{1}{2}sqrt{3}i$, and hence that $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)=-frac{1}{2}$.






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          This just a quadratic equation in $z=e^{-ix}$, where $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)$. Use the quadratic formula to solve
          $$z^2+z+1=0,$$
          to find that $z=frac{-1pmsqrt{-3}}{2}=-frac{1}{2}pmfrac{1}{2}sqrt{3}i$, and hence that $cos(x)=operatorname{Re}(z)=-frac{1}{2}$.







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          • Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38








          • 1




            There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
            – Szeto
            Nov 26 at 8:47












          • @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
            – Servaes
            Nov 26 at 8:48


















          • Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38








          • 1




            There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
            – Szeto
            Nov 26 at 8:47












          • @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
            – Servaes
            Nov 26 at 8:48
















          Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
          – Aditya
          Nov 26 at 8:38






          Thanks a lot, I think I can use this idea to solve a whole class of problems.
          – Aditya
          Nov 26 at 8:38






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          There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
          – Szeto
          Nov 26 at 8:47






          There is a typo: ‘$x=text{Re}(z)$’.
          – Szeto
          Nov 26 at 8:47














          @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
          – Servaes
          Nov 26 at 8:48




          @Szeto Fixed, thanks for spotting!
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          $$begin{align}
          e^{-ix}left(1+e^{-ix}right)=-1 &quadtoquad1 + e^{-ix} = -e^{ix} \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad e^{ix}+e^{-ix}=-1 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad frac12left(e^{ix}+e^{-ix}right) = -frac12 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad cos x = -frac12
          end{align}$$






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            Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38
















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          $$begin{align}
          e^{-ix}left(1+e^{-ix}right)=-1 &quadtoquad1 + e^{-ix} = -e^{ix} \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad e^{ix}+e^{-ix}=-1 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad frac12left(e^{ix}+e^{-ix}right) = -frac12 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad cos x = -frac12
          end{align}$$






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            Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38














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          $$begin{align}
          e^{-ix}left(1+e^{-ix}right)=-1 &quadtoquad1 + e^{-ix} = -e^{ix} \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad e^{ix}+e^{-ix}=-1 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad frac12left(e^{ix}+e^{-ix}right) = -frac12 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad cos x = -frac12
          end{align}$$






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          $$begin{align}
          e^{-ix}left(1+e^{-ix}right)=-1 &quadtoquad1 + e^{-ix} = -e^{ix} \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad e^{ix}+e^{-ix}=-1 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad frac12left(e^{ix}+e^{-ix}right) = -frac12 \[6pt]
          &quadtoquad cos x = -frac12
          end{align}$$







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            Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38














          • 1




            Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
            – Aditya
            Nov 26 at 8:38








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          Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
          – Aditya
          Nov 26 at 8:38




          Really neat! I knew cos x could be written in this form, but I never saw that the equation could be manipulated like this!
          – Aditya
          Nov 26 at 8:38











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          Just take modulus and square the equation. You will get $cos, x=-0.5$ immediately.



          $$|e^{-ix}|^{2} |1+e^{-ix}|^{2}= |-1|^{2}$$



          $$1 times left ( (1+cos x)^2 +(-sin x)^2 right ) = 1$$



          $$ 2 + 2 cos x = 1 $$



          So $cos, x=frac{1-2}{2}$!!






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            Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
            – A.Γ.
            Nov 26 at 8:27






          • 1




            What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Nov 26 at 8:33


















          3














          Just take modulus and square the equation. You will get $cos, x=-0.5$ immediately.



          $$|e^{-ix}|^{2} |1+e^{-ix}|^{2}= |-1|^{2}$$



          $$1 times left ( (1+cos x)^2 +(-sin x)^2 right ) = 1$$



          $$ 2 + 2 cos x = 1 $$



          So $cos, x=frac{1-2}{2}$!!






          share|cite|improve this answer



















          • 2




            Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
            – A.Γ.
            Nov 26 at 8:27






          • 1




            What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Nov 26 at 8:33
















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          Just take modulus and square the equation. You will get $cos, x=-0.5$ immediately.



          $$|e^{-ix}|^{2} |1+e^{-ix}|^{2}= |-1|^{2}$$



          $$1 times left ( (1+cos x)^2 +(-sin x)^2 right ) = 1$$



          $$ 2 + 2 cos x = 1 $$



          So $cos, x=frac{1-2}{2}$!!






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          Just take modulus and square the equation. You will get $cos, x=-0.5$ immediately.



          $$|e^{-ix}|^{2} |1+e^{-ix}|^{2}= |-1|^{2}$$



          $$1 times left ( (1+cos x)^2 +(-sin x)^2 right ) = 1$$



          $$ 2 + 2 cos x = 1 $$



          So $cos, x=frac{1-2}{2}$!!







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            Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
            – A.Γ.
            Nov 26 at 8:27






          • 1




            What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Nov 26 at 8:33
















          • 2




            Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
            – A.Γ.
            Nov 26 at 8:27






          • 1




            What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Nov 26 at 8:33










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          Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
          – A.Γ.
          Nov 26 at 8:27




          Taking the modulus might give false solutions. For example, $e^{ix}=1$ has only one point on the unit circle as a solution, but $|e^{ix}|=1$ is satisfied by every real $x$.
          – A.Γ.
          Nov 26 at 8:27




          1




          1




          What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Nov 26 at 8:33






          What I am saying is that taking modulus tells you that $cos , x$ must be $-0.5$ if it all there is a solution $x$. This proves rigorously that there is no solution with $cos , x neq -0.5$ and then yo u have to go back to the equation and verify that this indeed gives a solution.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Nov 26 at 8:33




















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