Combinining metrics of components into a metric of a complex object - triangular inequality












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I have a set $X = X_1 times X_2 times dots times X_n$.



I have metrics that satisfy triangular inequality "per component"
$$
rho_i: X_i times X_i to mathbb{R}
$$



for each $i=1,2,dots,n$.



I want to know what are possible ways to combine $rho_i$ for $i=1,2,dots,n$ into
$$rho:Xtimes X to mathbb{R}$$



Specifically:




  • Would weighted $max$ work?

  • Would weighted sum work?

  • Would rooted weighed sum of squares of components work?










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    I have a set $X = X_1 times X_2 times dots times X_n$.



    I have metrics that satisfy triangular inequality "per component"
    $$
    rho_i: X_i times X_i to mathbb{R}
    $$



    for each $i=1,2,dots,n$.



    I want to know what are possible ways to combine $rho_i$ for $i=1,2,dots,n$ into
    $$rho:Xtimes X to mathbb{R}$$



    Specifically:




    • Would weighted $max$ work?

    • Would weighted sum work?

    • Would rooted weighed sum of squares of components work?










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      I have a set $X = X_1 times X_2 times dots times X_n$.



      I have metrics that satisfy triangular inequality "per component"
      $$
      rho_i: X_i times X_i to mathbb{R}
      $$



      for each $i=1,2,dots,n$.



      I want to know what are possible ways to combine $rho_i$ for $i=1,2,dots,n$ into
      $$rho:Xtimes X to mathbb{R}$$



      Specifically:




      • Would weighted $max$ work?

      • Would weighted sum work?

      • Would rooted weighed sum of squares of components work?










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      I have a set $X = X_1 times X_2 times dots times X_n$.



      I have metrics that satisfy triangular inequality "per component"
      $$
      rho_i: X_i times X_i to mathbb{R}
      $$



      for each $i=1,2,dots,n$.



      I want to know what are possible ways to combine $rho_i$ for $i=1,2,dots,n$ into
      $$rho:Xtimes X to mathbb{R}$$



      Specifically:




      • Would weighted $max$ work?

      • Would weighted sum work?

      • Would rooted weighed sum of squares of components work?







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          All 3 would work.



          First, you reduce the weighted problems to the unweighted ones by pre-scaling the initial metrics. That means to prove that e.g.
          $$rho ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (alpha_1rho_1(x_1,y1), alpha_2rho_2(x_2,y_2))$$
          is a metric for any $rho_1,rho_2$ it is enough to prove that



          $$rho^* ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (rho_1^*(x_1,y1), rho_2^*(x_2,y_2))$$



          is a metric for any $rho_1^*,rho_2^*$ and then set



          $$rho_1^*(x_1,y_1)=alpha_1rho(x_1,y_1),quad rho_2^*(x_2,y_2)=alpha_2rho(x_2,y_2),$$



          which are metrics on $X_1$ and $X_2$ resp., if $alpha_i > 0, i=1,2$.



          So the 3 'combination functions' you considered are



          $$f_m(d_1,ldots,d_n) = max(d_1,ldots,d_n)$$
          $$f_s(d_1,ldots,d_n) = d_1+ldots+d_n$$
          $$f_e(d_1,ldots,d_n) = sqrt{d_1^2+ldots+d_n^2}$$



          Those are the well known maximum, sum and euclidean norms on $mathbb R^n$. I'll show that any such norm that is also increasing in each component under the assumption that all components are non-negative will work.



          Let $f_r$ be such a norm. Then you define



          $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) = f_r(rho_1(x_1,y_1),ldots,rho_n(x_,y_n))$$



          This $rho$ is $0$ iff $(x_1,ldots,x_n)=(y_1,ldots,y_n)$ because that is true for each component's $rho_i$ and also $f_r$ is zero only for the null vector.



          This $rho$ is symmtric because your component $rho_i$'s are symmetric (nothing needed from $f_r$).



          Of course, the triangle inequality is the most problematic thing to prove usually.
          Define



          $$r_i=rho_i(x_i,y_i),quad s_i=rho_i(y_i,z_i),quad t_i=rho_i(x_i,z_i), forall i=1,ldots,n$$
          We then have



          $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n))=f_r(t_1,ldots,t_n)$$
          Because I assumed that $f_r$ was increasing in each component for non-negative values, we can replace each $t_i$ with $r_i+s_i$ and we have $r_i+s_i ge t_i$ because of the triangle inequality of $rho_i$ between $x_i,y_i$ and $z_i$:



          $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)) le f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n)$$ Because $f_r$ is a norm, the norm-version of the triangle inequality applies here:



          $$f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n) le f_r(r_1,ldots,r_n) + f_r(s_1,ldots,s_n) = rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) + rho((y_1,ldots,y_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)),$$



          which finally proves that $rho$ is indeed a metric.



          That means that any such norms can be used to combine the component's metrics into a new one for the product set.






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            All 3 would work.



            First, you reduce the weighted problems to the unweighted ones by pre-scaling the initial metrics. That means to prove that e.g.
            $$rho ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (alpha_1rho_1(x_1,y1), alpha_2rho_2(x_2,y_2))$$
            is a metric for any $rho_1,rho_2$ it is enough to prove that



            $$rho^* ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (rho_1^*(x_1,y1), rho_2^*(x_2,y_2))$$



            is a metric for any $rho_1^*,rho_2^*$ and then set



            $$rho_1^*(x_1,y_1)=alpha_1rho(x_1,y_1),quad rho_2^*(x_2,y_2)=alpha_2rho(x_2,y_2),$$



            which are metrics on $X_1$ and $X_2$ resp., if $alpha_i > 0, i=1,2$.



            So the 3 'combination functions' you considered are



            $$f_m(d_1,ldots,d_n) = max(d_1,ldots,d_n)$$
            $$f_s(d_1,ldots,d_n) = d_1+ldots+d_n$$
            $$f_e(d_1,ldots,d_n) = sqrt{d_1^2+ldots+d_n^2}$$



            Those are the well known maximum, sum and euclidean norms on $mathbb R^n$. I'll show that any such norm that is also increasing in each component under the assumption that all components are non-negative will work.



            Let $f_r$ be such a norm. Then you define



            $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) = f_r(rho_1(x_1,y_1),ldots,rho_n(x_,y_n))$$



            This $rho$ is $0$ iff $(x_1,ldots,x_n)=(y_1,ldots,y_n)$ because that is true for each component's $rho_i$ and also $f_r$ is zero only for the null vector.



            This $rho$ is symmtric because your component $rho_i$'s are symmetric (nothing needed from $f_r$).



            Of course, the triangle inequality is the most problematic thing to prove usually.
            Define



            $$r_i=rho_i(x_i,y_i),quad s_i=rho_i(y_i,z_i),quad t_i=rho_i(x_i,z_i), forall i=1,ldots,n$$
            We then have



            $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n))=f_r(t_1,ldots,t_n)$$
            Because I assumed that $f_r$ was increasing in each component for non-negative values, we can replace each $t_i$ with $r_i+s_i$ and we have $r_i+s_i ge t_i$ because of the triangle inequality of $rho_i$ between $x_i,y_i$ and $z_i$:



            $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)) le f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n)$$ Because $f_r$ is a norm, the norm-version of the triangle inequality applies here:



            $$f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n) le f_r(r_1,ldots,r_n) + f_r(s_1,ldots,s_n) = rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) + rho((y_1,ldots,y_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)),$$



            which finally proves that $rho$ is indeed a metric.



            That means that any such norms can be used to combine the component's metrics into a new one for the product set.






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              All 3 would work.



              First, you reduce the weighted problems to the unweighted ones by pre-scaling the initial metrics. That means to prove that e.g.
              $$rho ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (alpha_1rho_1(x_1,y1), alpha_2rho_2(x_2,y_2))$$
              is a metric for any $rho_1,rho_2$ it is enough to prove that



              $$rho^* ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (rho_1^*(x_1,y1), rho_2^*(x_2,y_2))$$



              is a metric for any $rho_1^*,rho_2^*$ and then set



              $$rho_1^*(x_1,y_1)=alpha_1rho(x_1,y_1),quad rho_2^*(x_2,y_2)=alpha_2rho(x_2,y_2),$$



              which are metrics on $X_1$ and $X_2$ resp., if $alpha_i > 0, i=1,2$.



              So the 3 'combination functions' you considered are



              $$f_m(d_1,ldots,d_n) = max(d_1,ldots,d_n)$$
              $$f_s(d_1,ldots,d_n) = d_1+ldots+d_n$$
              $$f_e(d_1,ldots,d_n) = sqrt{d_1^2+ldots+d_n^2}$$



              Those are the well known maximum, sum and euclidean norms on $mathbb R^n$. I'll show that any such norm that is also increasing in each component under the assumption that all components are non-negative will work.



              Let $f_r$ be such a norm. Then you define



              $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) = f_r(rho_1(x_1,y_1),ldots,rho_n(x_,y_n))$$



              This $rho$ is $0$ iff $(x_1,ldots,x_n)=(y_1,ldots,y_n)$ because that is true for each component's $rho_i$ and also $f_r$ is zero only for the null vector.



              This $rho$ is symmtric because your component $rho_i$'s are symmetric (nothing needed from $f_r$).



              Of course, the triangle inequality is the most problematic thing to prove usually.
              Define



              $$r_i=rho_i(x_i,y_i),quad s_i=rho_i(y_i,z_i),quad t_i=rho_i(x_i,z_i), forall i=1,ldots,n$$
              We then have



              $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n))=f_r(t_1,ldots,t_n)$$
              Because I assumed that $f_r$ was increasing in each component for non-negative values, we can replace each $t_i$ with $r_i+s_i$ and we have $r_i+s_i ge t_i$ because of the triangle inequality of $rho_i$ between $x_i,y_i$ and $z_i$:



              $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)) le f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n)$$ Because $f_r$ is a norm, the norm-version of the triangle inequality applies here:



              $$f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n) le f_r(r_1,ldots,r_n) + f_r(s_1,ldots,s_n) = rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) + rho((y_1,ldots,y_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)),$$



              which finally proves that $rho$ is indeed a metric.



              That means that any such norms can be used to combine the component's metrics into a new one for the product set.






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                All 3 would work.



                First, you reduce the weighted problems to the unweighted ones by pre-scaling the initial metrics. That means to prove that e.g.
                $$rho ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (alpha_1rho_1(x_1,y1), alpha_2rho_2(x_2,y_2))$$
                is a metric for any $rho_1,rho_2$ it is enough to prove that



                $$rho^* ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (rho_1^*(x_1,y1), rho_2^*(x_2,y_2))$$



                is a metric for any $rho_1^*,rho_2^*$ and then set



                $$rho_1^*(x_1,y_1)=alpha_1rho(x_1,y_1),quad rho_2^*(x_2,y_2)=alpha_2rho(x_2,y_2),$$



                which are metrics on $X_1$ and $X_2$ resp., if $alpha_i > 0, i=1,2$.



                So the 3 'combination functions' you considered are



                $$f_m(d_1,ldots,d_n) = max(d_1,ldots,d_n)$$
                $$f_s(d_1,ldots,d_n) = d_1+ldots+d_n$$
                $$f_e(d_1,ldots,d_n) = sqrt{d_1^2+ldots+d_n^2}$$



                Those are the well known maximum, sum and euclidean norms on $mathbb R^n$. I'll show that any such norm that is also increasing in each component under the assumption that all components are non-negative will work.



                Let $f_r$ be such a norm. Then you define



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) = f_r(rho_1(x_1,y_1),ldots,rho_n(x_,y_n))$$



                This $rho$ is $0$ iff $(x_1,ldots,x_n)=(y_1,ldots,y_n)$ because that is true for each component's $rho_i$ and also $f_r$ is zero only for the null vector.



                This $rho$ is symmtric because your component $rho_i$'s are symmetric (nothing needed from $f_r$).



                Of course, the triangle inequality is the most problematic thing to prove usually.
                Define



                $$r_i=rho_i(x_i,y_i),quad s_i=rho_i(y_i,z_i),quad t_i=rho_i(x_i,z_i), forall i=1,ldots,n$$
                We then have



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n))=f_r(t_1,ldots,t_n)$$
                Because I assumed that $f_r$ was increasing in each component for non-negative values, we can replace each $t_i$ with $r_i+s_i$ and we have $r_i+s_i ge t_i$ because of the triangle inequality of $rho_i$ between $x_i,y_i$ and $z_i$:



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)) le f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n)$$ Because $f_r$ is a norm, the norm-version of the triangle inequality applies here:



                $$f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n) le f_r(r_1,ldots,r_n) + f_r(s_1,ldots,s_n) = rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) + rho((y_1,ldots,y_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)),$$



                which finally proves that $rho$ is indeed a metric.



                That means that any such norms can be used to combine the component's metrics into a new one for the product set.






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                All 3 would work.



                First, you reduce the weighted problems to the unweighted ones by pre-scaling the initial metrics. That means to prove that e.g.
                $$rho ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (alpha_1rho_1(x_1,y1), alpha_2rho_2(x_2,y_2))$$
                is a metric for any $rho_1,rho_2$ it is enough to prove that



                $$rho^* ((x_1,x_2), (y_1,y_2)) = max (rho_1^*(x_1,y1), rho_2^*(x_2,y_2))$$



                is a metric for any $rho_1^*,rho_2^*$ and then set



                $$rho_1^*(x_1,y_1)=alpha_1rho(x_1,y_1),quad rho_2^*(x_2,y_2)=alpha_2rho(x_2,y_2),$$



                which are metrics on $X_1$ and $X_2$ resp., if $alpha_i > 0, i=1,2$.



                So the 3 'combination functions' you considered are



                $$f_m(d_1,ldots,d_n) = max(d_1,ldots,d_n)$$
                $$f_s(d_1,ldots,d_n) = d_1+ldots+d_n$$
                $$f_e(d_1,ldots,d_n) = sqrt{d_1^2+ldots+d_n^2}$$



                Those are the well known maximum, sum and euclidean norms on $mathbb R^n$. I'll show that any such norm that is also increasing in each component under the assumption that all components are non-negative will work.



                Let $f_r$ be such a norm. Then you define



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) = f_r(rho_1(x_1,y_1),ldots,rho_n(x_,y_n))$$



                This $rho$ is $0$ iff $(x_1,ldots,x_n)=(y_1,ldots,y_n)$ because that is true for each component's $rho_i$ and also $f_r$ is zero only for the null vector.



                This $rho$ is symmtric because your component $rho_i$'s are symmetric (nothing needed from $f_r$).



                Of course, the triangle inequality is the most problematic thing to prove usually.
                Define



                $$r_i=rho_i(x_i,y_i),quad s_i=rho_i(y_i,z_i),quad t_i=rho_i(x_i,z_i), forall i=1,ldots,n$$
                We then have



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n))=f_r(t_1,ldots,t_n)$$
                Because I assumed that $f_r$ was increasing in each component for non-negative values, we can replace each $t_i$ with $r_i+s_i$ and we have $r_i+s_i ge t_i$ because of the triangle inequality of $rho_i$ between $x_i,y_i$ and $z_i$:



                $$rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)) le f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n)$$ Because $f_r$ is a norm, the norm-version of the triangle inequality applies here:



                $$f_r(r_1+s_1,ldots,r_n+s_n) le f_r(r_1,ldots,r_n) + f_r(s_1,ldots,s_n) = rho((x_1,ldots,x_n), (y_1,ldots,y_n)) + rho((y_1,ldots,y_n), (z_1,ldots,z_n)),$$



                which finally proves that $rho$ is indeed a metric.



                That means that any such norms can be used to combine the component's metrics into a new one for the product set.







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