Solve the congruence system $ xequiv m_i-1 pmod{m_i},$ for $,i = 1,ldots, k$
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Find natural number $x$ so that
$$xequiv 9pmod{10},quad xequiv8pmod9,quad ...,quad xequiv 1pmod2$$
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Find natural number $x$ so that
$$xequiv 9pmod{10},quad xequiv8pmod9,quad ...,quad xequiv 1pmod2$$
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Find natural number $x$ so that
$$xequiv 9pmod{10},quad xequiv8pmod9,quad ...,quad xequiv 1pmod2$$
elementary-number-theory
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Hint: The unnatural number $-1$ works.
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
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While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
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Since $,m_i-1equiv color{#c00}{-1}pmod{!m_i},$ we can apply $ $ CCRT = $rmcolor{#c00}{constant}$ case optimization of CRT
$$begin{align} xequiv color{#c00}{-1}!!pmod{!m_i}&iff xequiv -1!!pmod{{rm lcm}{m_i}}\[.4em]
text{or, without using CRT:} {rm all} m_i mid x+1 &iff {rm lcm}{m_i}mid x+1
end{align}qquadqquad$$
The latter equivalence is by the Universal Property of LCM (= definition of LCM in general)
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
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begin{align}
x &equiv 9 pmod{10} \
x &equiv 8 pmod 9 \
x &equiv 7 pmod 8 \
x &equiv 6 pmod 7 \
x &equiv 5 pmod 6 \
x &equiv 4 pmod 5 \
x &equiv 3 pmod 4 \
x &equiv 2 pmod 3 \
x &equiv 1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
Is equivalent to
begin{align}
x &equiv -1 pmod{10} \
x &equiv -1 pmod 9 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 8 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 7 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 6 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 5 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 4 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 3 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
which is equivalent to
$$x equiv -1 mod{operatorname{lcm}{2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}$$
$$x equiv -1 pmod{2520}$$
$$x equiv 2519 pmod{2520}$$
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Hint: The unnatural number $-1$ works.
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
1
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
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show 3 more comments
up vote
1
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Hint: The unnatural number $-1$ works.
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
1
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
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Hint: The unnatural number $-1$ works.
Hint: The unnatural number $-1$ works.
answered Mar 16 '14 at 20:41
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I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
1
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
|
show 3 more comments
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
1
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
I ask for natural number not integer
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:44
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
@user119081: Yes, you did. But André's hint is still a good one. How could you find a second integer solution from that one? Could you make the second solution natural?
– Charles
Mar 16 '14 at 20:45
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
Yes, I know. But from my solution $-1$, which is not a natural number, one can find a natural number solution, indeed all natural number solutions. I am leaving the discovery of that, at least for a while, to you.
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:46
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
I believe this should be exist a natural solution by extended Euclidean algorithm
– user119081
Mar 16 '14 at 20:48
1
1
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
While waiting, perhaps you can think of this. What number(s) can you add to my solution to get a natural number solution?
– André Nicolas
Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
Since $,m_i-1equiv color{#c00}{-1}pmod{!m_i},$ we can apply $ $ CCRT = $rmcolor{#c00}{constant}$ case optimization of CRT
$$begin{align} xequiv color{#c00}{-1}!!pmod{!m_i}&iff xequiv -1!!pmod{{rm lcm}{m_i}}\[.4em]
text{or, without using CRT:} {rm all} m_i mid x+1 &iff {rm lcm}{m_i}mid x+1
end{align}qquadqquad$$
The latter equivalence is by the Universal Property of LCM (= definition of LCM in general)
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
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Since $,m_i-1equiv color{#c00}{-1}pmod{!m_i},$ we can apply $ $ CCRT = $rmcolor{#c00}{constant}$ case optimization of CRT
$$begin{align} xequiv color{#c00}{-1}!!pmod{!m_i}&iff xequiv -1!!pmod{{rm lcm}{m_i}}\[.4em]
text{or, without using CRT:} {rm all} m_i mid x+1 &iff {rm lcm}{m_i}mid x+1
end{align}qquadqquad$$
The latter equivalence is by the Universal Property of LCM (= definition of LCM in general)
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
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Since $,m_i-1equiv color{#c00}{-1}pmod{!m_i},$ we can apply $ $ CCRT = $rmcolor{#c00}{constant}$ case optimization of CRT
$$begin{align} xequiv color{#c00}{-1}!!pmod{!m_i}&iff xequiv -1!!pmod{{rm lcm}{m_i}}\[.4em]
text{or, without using CRT:} {rm all} m_i mid x+1 &iff {rm lcm}{m_i}mid x+1
end{align}qquadqquad$$
The latter equivalence is by the Universal Property of LCM (= definition of LCM in general)
Since $,m_i-1equiv color{#c00}{-1}pmod{!m_i},$ we can apply $ $ CCRT = $rmcolor{#c00}{constant}$ case optimization of CRT
$$begin{align} xequiv color{#c00}{-1}!!pmod{!m_i}&iff xequiv -1!!pmod{{rm lcm}{m_i}}\[.4em]
text{or, without using CRT:} {rm all} m_i mid x+1 &iff {rm lcm}{m_i}mid x+1
end{align}qquadqquad$$
The latter equivalence is by the Universal Property of LCM (= definition of LCM in general)
edited Sep 4 '17 at 21:20
answered Mar 16 '14 at 20:52
Bill Dubuque
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207k29189625
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
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It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
It suffices to find any common multiple $,m,$ of all the moduli $,m_i$ (e.g. their product) and let $,x = m+1,,$ since then $,x-1 = m,$ is divisible by all $,m_i,,$ so, by above, is a solution.
– Bill Dubuque
Mar 16 '14 at 21:11
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begin{align}
x &equiv 9 pmod{10} \
x &equiv 8 pmod 9 \
x &equiv 7 pmod 8 \
x &equiv 6 pmod 7 \
x &equiv 5 pmod 6 \
x &equiv 4 pmod 5 \
x &equiv 3 pmod 4 \
x &equiv 2 pmod 3 \
x &equiv 1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
Is equivalent to
begin{align}
x &equiv -1 pmod{10} \
x &equiv -1 pmod 9 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 8 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 7 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 6 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 5 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 4 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 3 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
which is equivalent to
$$x equiv -1 mod{operatorname{lcm}{2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}$$
$$x equiv -1 pmod{2520}$$
$$x equiv 2519 pmod{2520}$$
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begin{align}
x &equiv 9 pmod{10} \
x &equiv 8 pmod 9 \
x &equiv 7 pmod 8 \
x &equiv 6 pmod 7 \
x &equiv 5 pmod 6 \
x &equiv 4 pmod 5 \
x &equiv 3 pmod 4 \
x &equiv 2 pmod 3 \
x &equiv 1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
Is equivalent to
begin{align}
x &equiv -1 pmod{10} \
x &equiv -1 pmod 9 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 8 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 7 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 6 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 5 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 4 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 3 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
which is equivalent to
$$x equiv -1 mod{operatorname{lcm}{2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}$$
$$x equiv -1 pmod{2520}$$
$$x equiv 2519 pmod{2520}$$
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begin{align}
x &equiv 9 pmod{10} \
x &equiv 8 pmod 9 \
x &equiv 7 pmod 8 \
x &equiv 6 pmod 7 \
x &equiv 5 pmod 6 \
x &equiv 4 pmod 5 \
x &equiv 3 pmod 4 \
x &equiv 2 pmod 3 \
x &equiv 1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
Is equivalent to
begin{align}
x &equiv -1 pmod{10} \
x &equiv -1 pmod 9 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 8 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 7 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 6 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 5 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 4 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 3 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
which is equivalent to
$$x equiv -1 mod{operatorname{lcm}{2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}$$
$$x equiv -1 pmod{2520}$$
$$x equiv 2519 pmod{2520}$$
begin{align}
x &equiv 9 pmod{10} \
x &equiv 8 pmod 9 \
x &equiv 7 pmod 8 \
x &equiv 6 pmod 7 \
x &equiv 5 pmod 6 \
x &equiv 4 pmod 5 \
x &equiv 3 pmod 4 \
x &equiv 2 pmod 3 \
x &equiv 1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
Is equivalent to
begin{align}
x &equiv -1 pmod{10} \
x &equiv -1 pmod 9 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 8 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 7 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 6 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 5 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 4 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 3 \
x &equiv -1 pmod 2 \
end{align}
which is equivalent to
$$x equiv -1 mod{operatorname{lcm}{2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}$$
$$x equiv -1 pmod{2520}$$
$$x equiv 2519 pmod{2520}$$
edited Feb 17 '17 at 7:58
answered Feb 16 '17 at 14:40
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