What does “ X miles in trail, runway 25R cleared to land” mean?
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I was listening to the LiveATC Phoenix North Tower feed as he was clearing aircraft to land. He said something like "Southwest fifteen sixty five, Phoenix Tower, (aircraft type), X miles in trail, runway 25R, cleared to land".
What does the "(aircraft type) X miles in trail" portion mean?
Is the controller pointing out the aircraft behind the aircraft that is being given the landing clearance? If yes, why would the aircraft in front care?
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I was listening to the LiveATC Phoenix North Tower feed as he was clearing aircraft to land. He said something like "Southwest fifteen sixty five, Phoenix Tower, (aircraft type), X miles in trail, runway 25R, cleared to land".
What does the "(aircraft type) X miles in trail" portion mean?
Is the controller pointing out the aircraft behind the aircraft that is being given the landing clearance? If yes, why would the aircraft in front care?
air-traffic-control phraseology
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
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– Dave
3 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
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I was listening to the LiveATC Phoenix North Tower feed as he was clearing aircraft to land. He said something like "Southwest fifteen sixty five, Phoenix Tower, (aircraft type), X miles in trail, runway 25R, cleared to land".
What does the "(aircraft type) X miles in trail" portion mean?
Is the controller pointing out the aircraft behind the aircraft that is being given the landing clearance? If yes, why would the aircraft in front care?
air-traffic-control phraseology
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
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I was listening to the LiveATC Phoenix North Tower feed as he was clearing aircraft to land. He said something like "Southwest fifteen sixty five, Phoenix Tower, (aircraft type), X miles in trail, runway 25R, cleared to land".
What does the "(aircraft type) X miles in trail" portion mean?
Is the controller pointing out the aircraft behind the aircraft that is being given the landing clearance? If yes, why would the aircraft in front care?
air-traffic-control phraseology
air-traffic-control phraseology
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
edited 2 hours ago
ymb1
64.6k6205342
64.6k6205342
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
asked 3 hours ago
jeff0000jeff0000
1,301624
1,301624
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
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– Dave
3 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
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– jeff0000
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
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– Dave
3 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
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– jeff0000
2 hours ago
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
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– Dave
3 hours ago
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
$endgroup$
– Dave
3 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
$endgroup$
– jeff0000
2 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
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– jeff0000
2 hours ago
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The controller's telling Southwest 1655 it's cleared to land (otherwise they would give the other a/c's ident), and by the way there is an airplane of a certain type coming up behind and to take that into consideration in the event that Southwest 1655 was thinking of lollygaging around on the runway instead of getting out of the way. That kind of comment added to the landing clearance suggests that the airplane behind is a little closer than usual, or is going significantly faster, or it's just really busy with airplanes spaced at minimum separation, and Southwest should expedite clearing the runway.
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
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This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
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– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
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The controller's telling Southwest 1655 it's cleared to land (otherwise they would give the other a/c's ident), and by the way there is an airplane of a certain type coming up behind and to take that into consideration in the event that Southwest 1655 was thinking of lollygaging around on the runway instead of getting out of the way. That kind of comment added to the landing clearance suggests that the airplane behind is a little closer than usual, or is going significantly faster, or it's just really busy with airplanes spaced at minimum separation, and Southwest should expedite clearing the runway.
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
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This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
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– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
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The controller's telling Southwest 1655 it's cleared to land (otherwise they would give the other a/c's ident), and by the way there is an airplane of a certain type coming up behind and to take that into consideration in the event that Southwest 1655 was thinking of lollygaging around on the runway instead of getting out of the way. That kind of comment added to the landing clearance suggests that the airplane behind is a little closer than usual, or is going significantly faster, or it's just really busy with airplanes spaced at minimum separation, and Southwest should expedite clearing the runway.
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
16.7k12050
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This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
add a comment |
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The controller's telling Southwest 1655 it's cleared to land (otherwise they would give the other a/c's ident), and by the way there is an airplane of a certain type coming up behind and to take that into consideration in the event that Southwest 1655 was thinking of lollygaging around on the runway instead of getting out of the way. That kind of comment added to the landing clearance suggests that the airplane behind is a little closer than usual, or is going significantly faster, or it's just really busy with airplanes spaced at minimum separation, and Southwest should expedite clearing the runway.
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
16.7k12050
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The controller's telling Southwest 1655 it's cleared to land (otherwise they would give the other a/c's ident), and by the way there is an airplane of a certain type coming up behind and to take that into consideration in the event that Southwest 1655 was thinking of lollygaging around on the runway instead of getting out of the way. That kind of comment added to the landing clearance suggests that the airplane behind is a little closer than usual, or is going significantly faster, or it's just really busy with airplanes spaced at minimum separation, and Southwest should expedite clearing the runway.
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
16.7k12050
answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
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answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
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answered 2 hours ago
John KJohn K
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This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
This is standard phraseology, and is in the pilot controller glossary. It may also be expressed in "minutes in trail".
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
37 mins ago
add a comment |
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how clearly did you hear it? Its possible they said Southwest 1565T 25 miles inbound runway 25R cleared to land
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– Dave
3 hours ago
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100%. He didn't do this once. He used the same phraseology more than 10 times with succeeding arrivals.
$endgroup$
– jeff0000
2 hours ago