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My son and I were solving this last night and we get different answers depending on which identities we use. The question also did specify $0 leqslant x < 2pi$



Here's our work:



$$sec x = 2 csc x$$



$$frac 1 {cos x} = frac 2 {sin x}$$



cross multiply:



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



and square both sides (I think this introduces a problem?)



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



Now we used the identity $sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1$



Let's replace $sin x$:



$$4 cos^2 x = 1 - cos^2 x$$



$$5 cos^2 x = 1$$



$$cos^2 x = frac 1 5$$



$$cos x = ±sqrt{frac 1 5}$$



$$cos^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 1 5right) = 1.10, 2.03$$



That gave us two answers within the range requested.



But let's replace $cos x$ instead:



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 (1 - sin^2 x) = sin^2 x$$



$$4 - 4 sin^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 = 5 sin^2 x$$



$$frac 4 5 = sin^2 x$$



$$±sqrt frac 4 5 = sin x$$



$$sin^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 4 5right) = x = 1.1, -1.1$$



Two answers, but we can throw out the negative one because it is not within the range specified.



Then we used the $tan x$ identity (which is what we should have done to begin with since squaring obviously seems to introduce invalid answers):



$$tan x = frac {sin x} {cos x}$$



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



$$2 = sin x / cos x$$



$$2 = tan x$$



$$tan^{-1} 2 = 1.1$$



So now I assume $1.1$ is the right answer. But where did $-1.1$ and $2.03$ come from?



They don't show up in the graphs:



enter image description here



AH! But they do show up in the squared version, which I now understand is where the extra answers came from:



enter image description here



What is the fundamental mistake here? How would one use the squaring method, and then at the end know which solution(s) to throw out as a side effect?










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    The easiest thing to do is just plug all answers you find back into the original identity and keep the ones for which it's true!
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    A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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My son and I were solving this last night and we get different answers depending on which identities we use. The question also did specify $0 leqslant x < 2pi$



Here's our work:



$$sec x = 2 csc x$$



$$frac 1 {cos x} = frac 2 {sin x}$$



cross multiply:



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



and square both sides (I think this introduces a problem?)



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



Now we used the identity $sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1$



Let's replace $sin x$:



$$4 cos^2 x = 1 - cos^2 x$$



$$5 cos^2 x = 1$$



$$cos^2 x = frac 1 5$$



$$cos x = ±sqrt{frac 1 5}$$



$$cos^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 1 5right) = 1.10, 2.03$$



That gave us two answers within the range requested.



But let's replace $cos x$ instead:



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 (1 - sin^2 x) = sin^2 x$$



$$4 - 4 sin^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 = 5 sin^2 x$$



$$frac 4 5 = sin^2 x$$



$$±sqrt frac 4 5 = sin x$$



$$sin^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 4 5right) = x = 1.1, -1.1$$



Two answers, but we can throw out the negative one because it is not within the range specified.



Then we used the $tan x$ identity (which is what we should have done to begin with since squaring obviously seems to introduce invalid answers):



$$tan x = frac {sin x} {cos x}$$



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



$$2 = sin x / cos x$$



$$2 = tan x$$



$$tan^{-1} 2 = 1.1$$



So now I assume $1.1$ is the right answer. But where did $-1.1$ and $2.03$ come from?



They don't show up in the graphs:



enter image description here



AH! But they do show up in the squared version, which I now understand is where the extra answers came from:



enter image description here



What is the fundamental mistake here? How would one use the squaring method, and then at the end know which solution(s) to throw out as a side effect?










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    The easiest thing to do is just plug all answers you find back into the original identity and keep the ones for which it's true!
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    A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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My son and I were solving this last night and we get different answers depending on which identities we use. The question also did specify $0 leqslant x < 2pi$



Here's our work:



$$sec x = 2 csc x$$



$$frac 1 {cos x} = frac 2 {sin x}$$



cross multiply:



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



and square both sides (I think this introduces a problem?)



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



Now we used the identity $sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1$



Let's replace $sin x$:



$$4 cos^2 x = 1 - cos^2 x$$



$$5 cos^2 x = 1$$



$$cos^2 x = frac 1 5$$



$$cos x = ±sqrt{frac 1 5}$$



$$cos^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 1 5right) = 1.10, 2.03$$



That gave us two answers within the range requested.



But let's replace $cos x$ instead:



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 (1 - sin^2 x) = sin^2 x$$



$$4 - 4 sin^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 = 5 sin^2 x$$



$$frac 4 5 = sin^2 x$$



$$±sqrt frac 4 5 = sin x$$



$$sin^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 4 5right) = x = 1.1, -1.1$$



Two answers, but we can throw out the negative one because it is not within the range specified.



Then we used the $tan x$ identity (which is what we should have done to begin with since squaring obviously seems to introduce invalid answers):



$$tan x = frac {sin x} {cos x}$$



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



$$2 = sin x / cos x$$



$$2 = tan x$$



$$tan^{-1} 2 = 1.1$$



So now I assume $1.1$ is the right answer. But where did $-1.1$ and $2.03$ come from?



They don't show up in the graphs:



enter image description here



AH! But they do show up in the squared version, which I now understand is where the extra answers came from:



enter image description here



What is the fundamental mistake here? How would one use the squaring method, and then at the end know which solution(s) to throw out as a side effect?










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My son and I were solving this last night and we get different answers depending on which identities we use. The question also did specify $0 leqslant x < 2pi$



Here's our work:



$$sec x = 2 csc x$$



$$frac 1 {cos x} = frac 2 {sin x}$$



cross multiply:



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



and square both sides (I think this introduces a problem?)



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



Now we used the identity $sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1$



Let's replace $sin x$:



$$4 cos^2 x = 1 - cos^2 x$$



$$5 cos^2 x = 1$$



$$cos^2 x = frac 1 5$$



$$cos x = ±sqrt{frac 1 5}$$



$$cos^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 1 5right) = 1.10, 2.03$$



That gave us two answers within the range requested.



But let's replace $cos x$ instead:



$$4 cos^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 (1 - sin^2 x) = sin^2 x$$



$$4 - 4 sin^2 x = sin^2 x$$



$$4 = 5 sin^2 x$$



$$frac 4 5 = sin^2 x$$



$$±sqrt frac 4 5 = sin x$$



$$sin^{-1}left(±sqrt frac 4 5right) = x = 1.1, -1.1$$



Two answers, but we can throw out the negative one because it is not within the range specified.



Then we used the $tan x$ identity (which is what we should have done to begin with since squaring obviously seems to introduce invalid answers):



$$tan x = frac {sin x} {cos x}$$



$$2 cos x = sin x$$



$$2 = sin x / cos x$$



$$2 = tan x$$



$$tan^{-1} 2 = 1.1$$



So now I assume $1.1$ is the right answer. But where did $-1.1$ and $2.03$ come from?



They don't show up in the graphs:



enter image description here



AH! But they do show up in the squared version, which I now understand is where the extra answers came from:



enter image description here



What is the fundamental mistake here? How would one use the squaring method, and then at the end know which solution(s) to throw out as a side effect?







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    A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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    The easiest thing to do is just plug all answers you find back into the original identity and keep the ones for which it's true!
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    A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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The easiest thing to do is just plug all answers you find back into the original identity and keep the ones for which it's true!
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The easiest thing to do is just plug all answers you find back into the original identity and keep the ones for which it's true!
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A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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A quick method would be to observe from the equation $sec x = 2 csc x$ that both $sin x, cos x$ must have the same sign, so $x$ must lie in the first or third quadrant. $2.03, -1.1$ get easily rejected because they lie in the second and fourth quadrants respectively.
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The two first methods led to $cos^2x=frac15$ and to $sin^2x=frac45$. That's the same assertion, since $cos^2x+sin^2x=1$.



But if you apply the $arccos$ function to $pmdfrac1{sqrt5}$, that will give you only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arccos$, which is $[0,pi]$. And if you apply the $arcsin$ function to $pmdfrac2{sqrt5}$, that will give yo only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arcsin$, which is $left[-dfracpi2,dfracpi2right]$. So, you will have to provide the extra solutions for your self. For instance, if you used the $arcsin$ function and you get a $alphainleft[-dfracpi2,0right)$, then use $2pi+alpha$ instead; it is also a solution and it belongs to the right range.



Finally, if you are solving an equation of the type $f(x)=g(x)$ and if $x_0$ is such that $f^2(x_0)=g^2(x_0)$, then what you have to do is to compute $f(x_0)$ and $g(x_0)$. Either they'r equal or they're symmetric. If they're equal, then you have a solution in your hands. Keep it. Otherwise, throw it away.






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    Squaring an equation can create extraneous solutions. For instance (as a trivial example), the equation $x=1$ has the solution $x=1$, but if we square it we get $x^2=1$ which has solutions $x=1,-1$. To check which "solutions" are indeed correct after solving by squaring, one can simply plug them back into the original equation: you throw out ones which do not solve the original equation. So for our example, we obtained $x=1,-1$ as "solutions" after squaring, but now we plug $x=-1$ back into the original equation and find that $1=-1$, so this is not a solution.






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    Notice that:



    $$4cos^2(x)=sin^2(x) to 2cos(|x|)=sin(|x|)$$



    And the source of your problem becomes apparent.



    While $cos(|x|)=cos (x)$, we have that $sin(|x|)=-sin(x)$ for $x<0$, and this explains why you get $-1.1$ as a solution here.






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      Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
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    1) $a^2 = b^2$ => $a = b$ or $a = - b$



    2) $a = b$ => (square both sides) $a^2 = b^2$



    The idea here is that in the first case you have that $a = -b$, but in the second case (which is your case), your $a^2 = b^2$ inevitably adds the $a = -b$ solutions to your total, which obviously are wrong since your original equation is $a = b$



    The proper way to solve this problem is to do this:



    $2cos(x) - sin(x) = 0$



    $cos(x)*frac{2}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} - sin(x)*frac{1}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} = 0$



    $cos(x)*cos(arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) - sin(x)*sin(arcsin(frac{1}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



    $cos(x + arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



    I guess you can take it from here






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      The two first methods led to $cos^2x=frac15$ and to $sin^2x=frac45$. That's the same assertion, since $cos^2x+sin^2x=1$.



      But if you apply the $arccos$ function to $pmdfrac1{sqrt5}$, that will give you only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arccos$, which is $[0,pi]$. And if you apply the $arcsin$ function to $pmdfrac2{sqrt5}$, that will give yo only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arcsin$, which is $left[-dfracpi2,dfracpi2right]$. So, you will have to provide the extra solutions for your self. For instance, if you used the $arcsin$ function and you get a $alphainleft[-dfracpi2,0right)$, then use $2pi+alpha$ instead; it is also a solution and it belongs to the right range.



      Finally, if you are solving an equation of the type $f(x)=g(x)$ and if $x_0$ is such that $f^2(x_0)=g^2(x_0)$, then what you have to do is to compute $f(x_0)$ and $g(x_0)$. Either they'r equal or they're symmetric. If they're equal, then you have a solution in your hands. Keep it. Otherwise, throw it away.






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        The two first methods led to $cos^2x=frac15$ and to $sin^2x=frac45$. That's the same assertion, since $cos^2x+sin^2x=1$.



        But if you apply the $arccos$ function to $pmdfrac1{sqrt5}$, that will give you only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arccos$, which is $[0,pi]$. And if you apply the $arcsin$ function to $pmdfrac2{sqrt5}$, that will give yo only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arcsin$, which is $left[-dfracpi2,dfracpi2right]$. So, you will have to provide the extra solutions for your self. For instance, if you used the $arcsin$ function and you get a $alphainleft[-dfracpi2,0right)$, then use $2pi+alpha$ instead; it is also a solution and it belongs to the right range.



        Finally, if you are solving an equation of the type $f(x)=g(x)$ and if $x_0$ is such that $f^2(x_0)=g^2(x_0)$, then what you have to do is to compute $f(x_0)$ and $g(x_0)$. Either they'r equal or they're symmetric. If they're equal, then you have a solution in your hands. Keep it. Otherwise, throw it away.






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          The two first methods led to $cos^2x=frac15$ and to $sin^2x=frac45$. That's the same assertion, since $cos^2x+sin^2x=1$.



          But if you apply the $arccos$ function to $pmdfrac1{sqrt5}$, that will give you only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arccos$, which is $[0,pi]$. And if you apply the $arcsin$ function to $pmdfrac2{sqrt5}$, that will give yo only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arcsin$, which is $left[-dfracpi2,dfracpi2right]$. So, you will have to provide the extra solutions for your self. For instance, if you used the $arcsin$ function and you get a $alphainleft[-dfracpi2,0right)$, then use $2pi+alpha$ instead; it is also a solution and it belongs to the right range.



          Finally, if you are solving an equation of the type $f(x)=g(x)$ and if $x_0$ is such that $f^2(x_0)=g^2(x_0)$, then what you have to do is to compute $f(x_0)$ and $g(x_0)$. Either they'r equal or they're symmetric. If they're equal, then you have a solution in your hands. Keep it. Otherwise, throw it away.






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          The two first methods led to $cos^2x=frac15$ and to $sin^2x=frac45$. That's the same assertion, since $cos^2x+sin^2x=1$.



          But if you apply the $arccos$ function to $pmdfrac1{sqrt5}$, that will give you only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arccos$, which is $[0,pi]$. And if you apply the $arcsin$ function to $pmdfrac2{sqrt5}$, that will give yo only the solutions that belong to the domain of $arcsin$, which is $left[-dfracpi2,dfracpi2right]$. So, you will have to provide the extra solutions for your self. For instance, if you used the $arcsin$ function and you get a $alphainleft[-dfracpi2,0right)$, then use $2pi+alpha$ instead; it is also a solution and it belongs to the right range.



          Finally, if you are solving an equation of the type $f(x)=g(x)$ and if $x_0$ is such that $f^2(x_0)=g^2(x_0)$, then what you have to do is to compute $f(x_0)$ and $g(x_0)$. Either they'r equal or they're symmetric. If they're equal, then you have a solution in your hands. Keep it. Otherwise, throw it away.







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              Squaring an equation can create extraneous solutions. For instance (as a trivial example), the equation $x=1$ has the solution $x=1$, but if we square it we get $x^2=1$ which has solutions $x=1,-1$. To check which "solutions" are indeed correct after solving by squaring, one can simply plug them back into the original equation: you throw out ones which do not solve the original equation. So for our example, we obtained $x=1,-1$ as "solutions" after squaring, but now we plug $x=-1$ back into the original equation and find that $1=-1$, so this is not a solution.






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              Squaring an equation can create extraneous solutions. For instance (as a trivial example), the equation $x=1$ has the solution $x=1$, but if we square it we get $x^2=1$ which has solutions $x=1,-1$. To check which "solutions" are indeed correct after solving by squaring, one can simply plug them back into the original equation: you throw out ones which do not solve the original equation. So for our example, we obtained $x=1,-1$ as "solutions" after squaring, but now we plug $x=-1$ back into the original equation and find that $1=-1$, so this is not a solution.






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              Squaring an equation can create extraneous solutions. For instance (as a trivial example), the equation $x=1$ has the solution $x=1$, but if we square it we get $x^2=1$ which has solutions $x=1,-1$. To check which "solutions" are indeed correct after solving by squaring, one can simply plug them back into the original equation: you throw out ones which do not solve the original equation. So for our example, we obtained $x=1,-1$ as "solutions" after squaring, but now we plug $x=-1$ back into the original equation and find that $1=-1$, so this is not a solution.






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              Squaring an equation can create extraneous solutions. For instance (as a trivial example), the equation $x=1$ has the solution $x=1$, but if we square it we get $x^2=1$ which has solutions $x=1,-1$. To check which "solutions" are indeed correct after solving by squaring, one can simply plug them back into the original equation: you throw out ones which do not solve the original equation. So for our example, we obtained $x=1,-1$ as "solutions" after squaring, but now we plug $x=-1$ back into the original equation and find that $1=-1$, so this is not a solution.







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                That I forgot this is a true indication it's been a long time since a math class! Of course you always plug your answers back into the original!
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              That I forgot this is a true indication it's been a long time since a math class! Of course you always plug your answers back into the original!
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              Notice that:



              $$4cos^2(x)=sin^2(x) to 2cos(|x|)=sin(|x|)$$



              And the source of your problem becomes apparent.



              While $cos(|x|)=cos (x)$, we have that $sin(|x|)=-sin(x)$ for $x<0$, and this explains why you get $-1.1$ as a solution here.






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                Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
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                – Shubham Johri
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              $begingroup$

              Notice that:



              $$4cos^2(x)=sin^2(x) to 2cos(|x|)=sin(|x|)$$



              And the source of your problem becomes apparent.



              While $cos(|x|)=cos (x)$, we have that $sin(|x|)=-sin(x)$ for $x<0$, and this explains why you get $-1.1$ as a solution here.






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                Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
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                – Shubham Johri
                Dec 6 '18 at 19:40














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              2








              2





              $begingroup$

              Notice that:



              $$4cos^2(x)=sin^2(x) to 2cos(|x|)=sin(|x|)$$



              And the source of your problem becomes apparent.



              While $cos(|x|)=cos (x)$, we have that $sin(|x|)=-sin(x)$ for $x<0$, and this explains why you get $-1.1$ as a solution here.






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              Notice that:



              $$4cos^2(x)=sin^2(x) to 2cos(|x|)=sin(|x|)$$



              And the source of your problem becomes apparent.



              While $cos(|x|)=cos (x)$, we have that $sin(|x|)=-sin(x)$ for $x<0$, and this explains why you get $-1.1$ as a solution here.







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              answered Dec 6 '18 at 19:21









              Rhys HughesRhys Hughes

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              • $begingroup$
                Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
                $endgroup$
                – Shubham Johri
                Dec 6 '18 at 19:40


















              • $begingroup$
                Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
                $endgroup$
                – Shubham Johri
                Dec 6 '18 at 19:40
















              $begingroup$
              Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
              $endgroup$
              – Shubham Johri
              Dec 6 '18 at 19:40




              $begingroup$
              Did you mean to say $2|cos x|=|sin x|$?
              $endgroup$
              – Shubham Johri
              Dec 6 '18 at 19:40











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              1) $a^2 = b^2$ => $a = b$ or $a = - b$



              2) $a = b$ => (square both sides) $a^2 = b^2$



              The idea here is that in the first case you have that $a = -b$, but in the second case (which is your case), your $a^2 = b^2$ inevitably adds the $a = -b$ solutions to your total, which obviously are wrong since your original equation is $a = b$



              The proper way to solve this problem is to do this:



              $2cos(x) - sin(x) = 0$



              $cos(x)*frac{2}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} - sin(x)*frac{1}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} = 0$



              $cos(x)*cos(arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) - sin(x)*sin(arcsin(frac{1}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



              $cos(x + arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



              I guess you can take it from here






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                $begingroup$

                1) $a^2 = b^2$ => $a = b$ or $a = - b$



                2) $a = b$ => (square both sides) $a^2 = b^2$



                The idea here is that in the first case you have that $a = -b$, but in the second case (which is your case), your $a^2 = b^2$ inevitably adds the $a = -b$ solutions to your total, which obviously are wrong since your original equation is $a = b$



                The proper way to solve this problem is to do this:



                $2cos(x) - sin(x) = 0$



                $cos(x)*frac{2}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} - sin(x)*frac{1}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} = 0$



                $cos(x)*cos(arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) - sin(x)*sin(arcsin(frac{1}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                $cos(x + arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                I guess you can take it from here






                share|cite|improve this answer











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                  1












                  1








                  1





                  $begingroup$

                  1) $a^2 = b^2$ => $a = b$ or $a = - b$



                  2) $a = b$ => (square both sides) $a^2 = b^2$



                  The idea here is that in the first case you have that $a = -b$, but in the second case (which is your case), your $a^2 = b^2$ inevitably adds the $a = -b$ solutions to your total, which obviously are wrong since your original equation is $a = b$



                  The proper way to solve this problem is to do this:



                  $2cos(x) - sin(x) = 0$



                  $cos(x)*frac{2}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} - sin(x)*frac{1}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} = 0$



                  $cos(x)*cos(arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) - sin(x)*sin(arcsin(frac{1}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                  $cos(x + arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                  I guess you can take it from here






                  share|cite|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$



                  1) $a^2 = b^2$ => $a = b$ or $a = - b$



                  2) $a = b$ => (square both sides) $a^2 = b^2$



                  The idea here is that in the first case you have that $a = -b$, but in the second case (which is your case), your $a^2 = b^2$ inevitably adds the $a = -b$ solutions to your total, which obviously are wrong since your original equation is $a = b$



                  The proper way to solve this problem is to do this:



                  $2cos(x) - sin(x) = 0$



                  $cos(x)*frac{2}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} - sin(x)*frac{1}{sqrt{1^2+2^2}} = 0$



                  $cos(x)*cos(arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) - sin(x)*sin(arcsin(frac{1}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                  $cos(x + arccos(frac{2}{sqrt{5}})) = 0$



                  I guess you can take it from here







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                  answered Dec 6 '18 at 19:15









                  MakinaMakina

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