least common multiple $limsqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]}=e$
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The least common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ is $[1,2,dotsc,n]$, then
$$lim_{ntoinfty}sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]}=e$$
we can show this by prime number theorem, but I don't know how to start
I had learnt that it seems we can find the proposition in G.H. Hardy's number theory book, but I could not find it.
I am really grateful for any help
number-theory prime-numbers analytic-number-theory
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The least common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ is $[1,2,dotsc,n]$, then
$$lim_{ntoinfty}sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]}=e$$
we can show this by prime number theorem, but I don't know how to start
I had learnt that it seems we can find the proposition in G.H. Hardy's number theory book, but I could not find it.
I am really grateful for any help
number-theory prime-numbers analytic-number-theory
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:27
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They are not the same
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– Rene Schipperus
Jun 14 '14 at 19:42
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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The least common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ is $[1,2,dotsc,n]$, then
$$lim_{ntoinfty}sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]}=e$$
we can show this by prime number theorem, but I don't know how to start
I had learnt that it seems we can find the proposition in G.H. Hardy's number theory book, but I could not find it.
I am really grateful for any help
number-theory prime-numbers analytic-number-theory
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The least common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ is $[1,2,dotsc,n]$, then
$$lim_{ntoinfty}sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]}=e$$
we can show this by prime number theorem, but I don't know how to start
I had learnt that it seems we can find the proposition in G.H. Hardy's number theory book, but I could not find it.
I am really grateful for any help
number-theory prime-numbers analytic-number-theory
number-theory prime-numbers analytic-number-theory
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:27
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They are not the same
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– Rene Schipperus
Jun 14 '14 at 19:42
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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– lhf
Jun 14 '14 at 19:44
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3
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:27
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They are not the same
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– Rene Schipperus
Jun 14 '14 at 19:42
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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– lhf
Jun 14 '14 at 19:44
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:27
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:27
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They are not the same
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– Rene Schipperus
Jun 14 '14 at 19:42
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They are not the same
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– Rene Schipperus
Jun 14 '14 at 19:42
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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– lhf
Jun 14 '14 at 19:44
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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Let's look how the least common multiple evolves.
If $n > 1$ is a prime power, $n = p^k$ ($k geqslant 1$), then no number $< n$ is divisible by $p^k$, but $p^{k-1} < n$, so $[1,2,dotsc,n-1] = p^{k-1}cdot m$, where $pnmid m$. Then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = p^kcdot m$, since on the one hand, we see that $p^kcdot m$ is a common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$, and on the other hand, every common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ must be a multiple of $p^k$ as well as of $m$.
If $n > 1$ is not a prime power, it is divisible by at least two distinct primes, say $p$ is one of them. Let $k$ be the exponent of $p$ in the factorisation of $n$, and $m = n/p^k$. Then $ 1 < p^k < n$ and $1 < m < n$, so $p^kmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$ and $mmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, and since the two are coprime, also $n = p^kcdot m mid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, which means that then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$.
Taking logarithms, we see that for $n > 1$
$$begin{align}
Lambda (n) &= log [1,2,dotsc,n] - log [1,2,dotsc,n-1]\
&= begin{cases} log p &, n = p^k\ ;: 0 &, text{otherwise}.end{cases}
end{align}$$
$Lambda$ is the von Mangoldt function, and we see that
$$log [1,2,dotsc,n] = sum_{kleqslant n} Lambda(k) = psi(n),$$
where $psi$ is known as the second Chebyshev function.
With these observations, it is clear that
$$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]} = etag{1}$$
is equivalent to
$$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{psi(n)}{n} = 1.tag{2}$$
It is well-known and easy to see that $(2)$ is equivalent to the Prime Number Theorem (without error bounds)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} = 1.tag{3}$$
To see the equivalence, we also introduce the first Chebyshev function,
$$vartheta(x) = sum_{pleqslant x} log p,$$
where the sum extends over the primes not exceeding $x$. We have
$$vartheta(x) leqslant psi(x) = sum_{nleqslant x}Lambda(n) = sum_{pleqslant x}leftlfloor frac{log x}{log p}rightrfloorlog p leqslant sum_{pleqslant x} log x = pi(x)log x,$$
which shows - the existence of the limits assumed -
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{psi(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x}.$$
For $n geqslant 3$, we can split the sum at $y = frac{x}{(log x)^2}$ and obtain
$$pi(x) leqslant pi(y) + sum_{y < p leqslant x} 1 leqslant pi(y) + frac{1}{log y}sum_{y < p < x}log p leqslant y + frac{vartheta(x)}{log y},$$
whence
$$frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant frac{ylog x}{x} + frac{log x}{log y}frac{vartheta(x)}{x} = frac{1}{log x} + frac{1}{1 - 2frac{log log x}{log x}}frac{vartheta(x)}{x}.$$
Since $frac{1}{log x}to 0$ and $frac{loglog x}{log x} to 0$ for $xto infty$, it follows that (once again assuming the existence of the limits)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x},$$
and the proof of the equivalence of $(1)$ and $(3)$ is complete.
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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(Not an answer, just a suggestion.)
It would seem that the power of a prime $p$ in $[1,2,dots,n]$ is $$leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor.$$
Start of proof:
$$prod_{pleq n} p^{frac{1}{n}leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor} = e^{frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor}$$
So we need to show that:
$$S_n=frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloorto 1text{ as }ntoinfty$$
The crudest estimate of the terms is:
$$log n - log p < log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor leq log n$$
But that doesn't seem to be good enough. It does show that the limsup is less than $e$.
We can certainly see that $limsup S_nleq 1$ from the prime number theorem, since:
$$S_nleq frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n}log n = frac{pi(n) n}{log n}to 1$$
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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Let's look how the least common multiple evolves.
If $n > 1$ is a prime power, $n = p^k$ ($k geqslant 1$), then no number $< n$ is divisible by $p^k$, but $p^{k-1} < n$, so $[1,2,dotsc,n-1] = p^{k-1}cdot m$, where $pnmid m$. Then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = p^kcdot m$, since on the one hand, we see that $p^kcdot m$ is a common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$, and on the other hand, every common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ must be a multiple of $p^k$ as well as of $m$.
If $n > 1$ is not a prime power, it is divisible by at least two distinct primes, say $p$ is one of them. Let $k$ be the exponent of $p$ in the factorisation of $n$, and $m = n/p^k$. Then $ 1 < p^k < n$ and $1 < m < n$, so $p^kmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$ and $mmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, and since the two are coprime, also $n = p^kcdot m mid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, which means that then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$.
Taking logarithms, we see that for $n > 1$
$$begin{align}
Lambda (n) &= log [1,2,dotsc,n] - log [1,2,dotsc,n-1]\
&= begin{cases} log p &, n = p^k\ ;: 0 &, text{otherwise}.end{cases}
end{align}$$
$Lambda$ is the von Mangoldt function, and we see that
$$log [1,2,dotsc,n] = sum_{kleqslant n} Lambda(k) = psi(n),$$
where $psi$ is known as the second Chebyshev function.
With these observations, it is clear that
$$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]} = etag{1}$$
is equivalent to
$$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{psi(n)}{n} = 1.tag{2}$$
It is well-known and easy to see that $(2)$ is equivalent to the Prime Number Theorem (without error bounds)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} = 1.tag{3}$$
To see the equivalence, we also introduce the first Chebyshev function,
$$vartheta(x) = sum_{pleqslant x} log p,$$
where the sum extends over the primes not exceeding $x$. We have
$$vartheta(x) leqslant psi(x) = sum_{nleqslant x}Lambda(n) = sum_{pleqslant x}leftlfloor frac{log x}{log p}rightrfloorlog p leqslant sum_{pleqslant x} log x = pi(x)log x,$$
which shows - the existence of the limits assumed -
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{psi(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x}.$$
For $n geqslant 3$, we can split the sum at $y = frac{x}{(log x)^2}$ and obtain
$$pi(x) leqslant pi(y) + sum_{y < p leqslant x} 1 leqslant pi(y) + frac{1}{log y}sum_{y < p < x}log p leqslant y + frac{vartheta(x)}{log y},$$
whence
$$frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant frac{ylog x}{x} + frac{log x}{log y}frac{vartheta(x)}{x} = frac{1}{log x} + frac{1}{1 - 2frac{log log x}{log x}}frac{vartheta(x)}{x}.$$
Since $frac{1}{log x}to 0$ and $frac{loglog x}{log x} to 0$ for $xto infty$, it follows that (once again assuming the existence of the limits)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x},$$
and the proof of the equivalence of $(1)$ and $(3)$ is complete.
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
Feb 10 '16 at 18:53
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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– Prism
Mar 18 '16 at 0:03
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Let's look how the least common multiple evolves.
If $n > 1$ is a prime power, $n = p^k$ ($k geqslant 1$), then no number $< n$ is divisible by $p^k$, but $p^{k-1} < n$, so $[1,2,dotsc,n-1] = p^{k-1}cdot m$, where $pnmid m$. Then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = p^kcdot m$, since on the one hand, we see that $p^kcdot m$ is a common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$, and on the other hand, every common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ must be a multiple of $p^k$ as well as of $m$.
If $n > 1$ is not a prime power, it is divisible by at least two distinct primes, say $p$ is one of them. Let $k$ be the exponent of $p$ in the factorisation of $n$, and $m = n/p^k$. Then $ 1 < p^k < n$ and $1 < m < n$, so $p^kmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$ and $mmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, and since the two are coprime, also $n = p^kcdot m mid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, which means that then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$.
Taking logarithms, we see that for $n > 1$
$$begin{align}
Lambda (n) &= log [1,2,dotsc,n] - log [1,2,dotsc,n-1]\
&= begin{cases} log p &, n = p^k\ ;: 0 &, text{otherwise}.end{cases}
end{align}$$
$Lambda$ is the von Mangoldt function, and we see that
$$log [1,2,dotsc,n] = sum_{kleqslant n} Lambda(k) = psi(n),$$
where $psi$ is known as the second Chebyshev function.
With these observations, it is clear that
$$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]} = etag{1}$$
is equivalent to
$$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{psi(n)}{n} = 1.tag{2}$$
It is well-known and easy to see that $(2)$ is equivalent to the Prime Number Theorem (without error bounds)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} = 1.tag{3}$$
To see the equivalence, we also introduce the first Chebyshev function,
$$vartheta(x) = sum_{pleqslant x} log p,$$
where the sum extends over the primes not exceeding $x$. We have
$$vartheta(x) leqslant psi(x) = sum_{nleqslant x}Lambda(n) = sum_{pleqslant x}leftlfloor frac{log x}{log p}rightrfloorlog p leqslant sum_{pleqslant x} log x = pi(x)log x,$$
which shows - the existence of the limits assumed -
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{psi(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x}.$$
For $n geqslant 3$, we can split the sum at $y = frac{x}{(log x)^2}$ and obtain
$$pi(x) leqslant pi(y) + sum_{y < p leqslant x} 1 leqslant pi(y) + frac{1}{log y}sum_{y < p < x}log p leqslant y + frac{vartheta(x)}{log y},$$
whence
$$frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant frac{ylog x}{x} + frac{log x}{log y}frac{vartheta(x)}{x} = frac{1}{log x} + frac{1}{1 - 2frac{log log x}{log x}}frac{vartheta(x)}{x}.$$
Since $frac{1}{log x}to 0$ and $frac{loglog x}{log x} to 0$ for $xto infty$, it follows that (once again assuming the existence of the limits)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x},$$
and the proof of the equivalence of $(1)$ and $(3)$ is complete.
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
Feb 10 '16 at 18:53
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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– Prism
Mar 18 '16 at 0:03
add a comment |
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Let's look how the least common multiple evolves.
If $n > 1$ is a prime power, $n = p^k$ ($k geqslant 1$), then no number $< n$ is divisible by $p^k$, but $p^{k-1} < n$, so $[1,2,dotsc,n-1] = p^{k-1}cdot m$, where $pnmid m$. Then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = p^kcdot m$, since on the one hand, we see that $p^kcdot m$ is a common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$, and on the other hand, every common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ must be a multiple of $p^k$ as well as of $m$.
If $n > 1$ is not a prime power, it is divisible by at least two distinct primes, say $p$ is one of them. Let $k$ be the exponent of $p$ in the factorisation of $n$, and $m = n/p^k$. Then $ 1 < p^k < n$ and $1 < m < n$, so $p^kmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$ and $mmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, and since the two are coprime, also $n = p^kcdot m mid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, which means that then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$.
Taking logarithms, we see that for $n > 1$
$$begin{align}
Lambda (n) &= log [1,2,dotsc,n] - log [1,2,dotsc,n-1]\
&= begin{cases} log p &, n = p^k\ ;: 0 &, text{otherwise}.end{cases}
end{align}$$
$Lambda$ is the von Mangoldt function, and we see that
$$log [1,2,dotsc,n] = sum_{kleqslant n} Lambda(k) = psi(n),$$
where $psi$ is known as the second Chebyshev function.
With these observations, it is clear that
$$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]} = etag{1}$$
is equivalent to
$$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{psi(n)}{n} = 1.tag{2}$$
It is well-known and easy to see that $(2)$ is equivalent to the Prime Number Theorem (without error bounds)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} = 1.tag{3}$$
To see the equivalence, we also introduce the first Chebyshev function,
$$vartheta(x) = sum_{pleqslant x} log p,$$
where the sum extends over the primes not exceeding $x$. We have
$$vartheta(x) leqslant psi(x) = sum_{nleqslant x}Lambda(n) = sum_{pleqslant x}leftlfloor frac{log x}{log p}rightrfloorlog p leqslant sum_{pleqslant x} log x = pi(x)log x,$$
which shows - the existence of the limits assumed -
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{psi(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x}.$$
For $n geqslant 3$, we can split the sum at $y = frac{x}{(log x)^2}$ and obtain
$$pi(x) leqslant pi(y) + sum_{y < p leqslant x} 1 leqslant pi(y) + frac{1}{log y}sum_{y < p < x}log p leqslant y + frac{vartheta(x)}{log y},$$
whence
$$frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant frac{ylog x}{x} + frac{log x}{log y}frac{vartheta(x)}{x} = frac{1}{log x} + frac{1}{1 - 2frac{log log x}{log x}}frac{vartheta(x)}{x}.$$
Since $frac{1}{log x}to 0$ and $frac{loglog x}{log x} to 0$ for $xto infty$, it follows that (once again assuming the existence of the limits)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x},$$
and the proof of the equivalence of $(1)$ and $(3)$ is complete.
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Let's look how the least common multiple evolves.
If $n > 1$ is a prime power, $n = p^k$ ($k geqslant 1$), then no number $< n$ is divisible by $p^k$, but $p^{k-1} < n$, so $[1,2,dotsc,n-1] = p^{k-1}cdot m$, where $pnmid m$. Then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = p^kcdot m$, since on the one hand, we see that $p^kcdot m$ is a common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$, and on the other hand, every common multiple of $1,2,dotsc,n$ must be a multiple of $p^k$ as well as of $m$.
If $n > 1$ is not a prime power, it is divisible by at least two distinct primes, say $p$ is one of them. Let $k$ be the exponent of $p$ in the factorisation of $n$, and $m = n/p^k$. Then $ 1 < p^k < n$ and $1 < m < n$, so $p^kmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$ and $mmid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, and since the two are coprime, also $n = p^kcdot m mid [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$, which means that then $[1,2,dotsc,n] = [1,2,dotsc,n-1]$.
Taking logarithms, we see that for $n > 1$
$$begin{align}
Lambda (n) &= log [1,2,dotsc,n] - log [1,2,dotsc,n-1]\
&= begin{cases} log p &, n = p^k\ ;: 0 &, text{otherwise}.end{cases}
end{align}$$
$Lambda$ is the von Mangoldt function, and we see that
$$log [1,2,dotsc,n] = sum_{kleqslant n} Lambda(k) = psi(n),$$
where $psi$ is known as the second Chebyshev function.
With these observations, it is clear that
$$lim_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{[1,2,dotsc,n]} = etag{1}$$
is equivalent to
$$lim_{ntoinfty} frac{psi(n)}{n} = 1.tag{2}$$
It is well-known and easy to see that $(2)$ is equivalent to the Prime Number Theorem (without error bounds)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} = 1.tag{3}$$
To see the equivalence, we also introduce the first Chebyshev function,
$$vartheta(x) = sum_{pleqslant x} log p,$$
where the sum extends over the primes not exceeding $x$. We have
$$vartheta(x) leqslant psi(x) = sum_{nleqslant x}Lambda(n) = sum_{pleqslant x}leftlfloor frac{log x}{log p}rightrfloorlog p leqslant sum_{pleqslant x} log x = pi(x)log x,$$
which shows - the existence of the limits assumed -
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{psi(x)}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x}.$$
For $n geqslant 3$, we can split the sum at $y = frac{x}{(log x)^2}$ and obtain
$$pi(x) leqslant pi(y) + sum_{y < p leqslant x} 1 leqslant pi(y) + frac{1}{log y}sum_{y < p < x}log p leqslant y + frac{vartheta(x)}{log y},$$
whence
$$frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant frac{ylog x}{x} + frac{log x}{log y}frac{vartheta(x)}{x} = frac{1}{log x} + frac{1}{1 - 2frac{log log x}{log x}}frac{vartheta(x)}{x}.$$
Since $frac{1}{log x}to 0$ and $frac{loglog x}{log x} to 0$ for $xto infty$, it follows that (once again assuming the existence of the limits)
$$lim_{xtoinfty} frac{pi(x)log x}{x} leqslant lim_{xtoinfty} frac{vartheta(x)}{x},$$
and the proof of the equivalence of $(1)$ and $(3)$ is complete.
answered Jun 15 '14 at 18:17
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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– Prism
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
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Very nice exposition! +1
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– Markus Scheuer
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It was a pleasure to read this answer. It is truly a textbook quality work.
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– Prism
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(Not an answer, just a suggestion.)
It would seem that the power of a prime $p$ in $[1,2,dots,n]$ is $$leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor.$$
Start of proof:
$$prod_{pleq n} p^{frac{1}{n}leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor} = e^{frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor}$$
So we need to show that:
$$S_n=frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloorto 1text{ as }ntoinfty$$
The crudest estimate of the terms is:
$$log n - log p < log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor leq log n$$
But that doesn't seem to be good enough. It does show that the limsup is less than $e$.
We can certainly see that $limsup S_nleq 1$ from the prime number theorem, since:
$$S_nleq frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n}log n = frac{pi(n) n}{log n}to 1$$
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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(Not an answer, just a suggestion.)
It would seem that the power of a prime $p$ in $[1,2,dots,n]$ is $$leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor.$$
Start of proof:
$$prod_{pleq n} p^{frac{1}{n}leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor} = e^{frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor}$$
So we need to show that:
$$S_n=frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloorto 1text{ as }ntoinfty$$
The crudest estimate of the terms is:
$$log n - log p < log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor leq log n$$
But that doesn't seem to be good enough. It does show that the limsup is less than $e$.
We can certainly see that $limsup S_nleq 1$ from the prime number theorem, since:
$$S_nleq frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n}log n = frac{pi(n) n}{log n}to 1$$
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
add a comment |
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(Not an answer, just a suggestion.)
It would seem that the power of a prime $p$ in $[1,2,dots,n]$ is $$leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor.$$
Start of proof:
$$prod_{pleq n} p^{frac{1}{n}leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor} = e^{frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor}$$
So we need to show that:
$$S_n=frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloorto 1text{ as }ntoinfty$$
The crudest estimate of the terms is:
$$log n - log p < log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor leq log n$$
But that doesn't seem to be good enough. It does show that the limsup is less than $e$.
We can certainly see that $limsup S_nleq 1$ from the prime number theorem, since:
$$S_nleq frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n}log n = frac{pi(n) n}{log n}to 1$$
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(Not an answer, just a suggestion.)
It would seem that the power of a prime $p$ in $[1,2,dots,n]$ is $$leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor.$$
Start of proof:
$$prod_{pleq n} p^{frac{1}{n}leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor} = e^{frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor}$$
So we need to show that:
$$S_n=frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n} log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloorto 1text{ as }ntoinfty$$
The crudest estimate of the terms is:
$$log n - log p < log p leftlfloor frac{log n}{log p}rightrfloor leq log n$$
But that doesn't seem to be good enough. It does show that the limsup is less than $e$.
We can certainly see that $limsup S_nleq 1$ from the prime number theorem, since:
$$S_nleq frac{1}{n}sum_{pleq n}log n = frac{pi(n) n}{log n}to 1$$
edited Dec 6 '18 at 19:11
answered Jun 14 '14 at 19:52
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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Psst! Chebyshev says $psi$ could be interesting. Von Mangoldt agrees.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 19:57
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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I remember doing this exercise and struggling with the liminf and limsup too. Can you imagine the frustration? ;-)
$endgroup$
– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 19:58
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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As Daniel suggested, the limit follows from $theta(n)leqslantSigmacdotsleqslantpi(n)log n$, where $Sigmalog p=theta(x)simpi(x)log xsim x$. (No $psi$ or $Lambda$, however.)
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– nbarto
Jun 14 '14 at 20:13
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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@barto $log [1,2,dotsc,n] = psi(n)$.
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– Daniel Fischer♦
Jun 14 '14 at 20:20
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Is this homework? This looks like exercise 3.2 in Hildebrands notes, page 103.
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They are not the same
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See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau%27s_function.
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