How to properly align Tikz pictures in Latex fraction environment
How to properly align Tikz pictures in Latex environment to get the following picture?
My trial code does not compile,
documentclass[preview]{standalone}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
tikz-pgf amsmath fractions alignment
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How to properly align Tikz pictures in Latex environment to get the following picture?
My trial code does not compile,
documentclass[preview]{standalone}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
tikz-pgf amsmath fractions alignment
please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 3:05
add a comment |
How to properly align Tikz pictures in Latex environment to get the following picture?
My trial code does not compile,
documentclass[preview]{standalone}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
tikz-pgf amsmath fractions alignment
How to properly align Tikz pictures in Latex environment to get the following picture?
My trial code does not compile,
documentclass[preview]{standalone}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
tikz-pgf amsmath fractions alignment
tikz-pgf amsmath fractions alignment
edited Dec 16 '18 at 5:49
Kevin Powell
asked Dec 16 '18 at 2:59
Kevin PowellKevin Powell
36016
36016
please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 3:05
add a comment |
please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 3:05
please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 3:05
please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 3:05
add a comment |
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Generally you can control the vertical alignment with the baseline
option.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
-
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
draw[dashed](0,0) -- (-1,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
I don't know what these objects represent, so you may want to use another baseline.
Note that you can use a TikZ matrix:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm,ampersand replacement=&]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
Thanks! It seems that the more versatilematrix
intikzpicture
does not work withfrac
. Althoughbaseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just addampersand replacement=&
and replace&
by&
.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
add a comment |
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
[
A = frac{tikz[baseline=1pt]{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0);}}
{tikz{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0)
( 0.5,0) to[bend left] ( 1.5,0) to[bend left] ( 0.5,0);
draw[dashed, shorten >=1mm, shorten <=1mm] (-0.5,0) -- (0.5,0);}
}
]
end{document}
How is that different from my answer except that you defineM
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use ofbaseline
, which is precisely what I am using.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
I would create apic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition ofM
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
add a comment |
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Generally you can control the vertical alignment with the baseline
option.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
-
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
draw[dashed](0,0) -- (-1,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
I don't know what these objects represent, so you may want to use another baseline.
Note that you can use a TikZ matrix:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm,ampersand replacement=&]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
Thanks! It seems that the more versatilematrix
intikzpicture
does not work withfrac
. Althoughbaseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just addampersand replacement=&
and replace&
by&
.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
add a comment |
Generally you can control the vertical alignment with the baseline
option.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
-
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
draw[dashed](0,0) -- (-1,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
I don't know what these objects represent, so you may want to use another baseline.
Note that you can use a TikZ matrix:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm,ampersand replacement=&]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
Thanks! It seems that the more versatilematrix
intikzpicture
does not work withfrac
. Althoughbaseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just addampersand replacement=&
and replace&
by&
.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
add a comment |
Generally you can control the vertical alignment with the baseline
option.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
-
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
draw[dashed](0,0) -- (-1,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
I don't know what these objects represent, so you may want to use another baseline.
Note that you can use a TikZ matrix:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm,ampersand replacement=&]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
Generally you can control the vertical alignment with the baseline
option.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
-
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline={(0,-0.1)}]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
draw[dashed](0,0) -- (-1,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
I don't know what these objects represent, so you may want to use another baseline.
Note that you can use a TikZ matrix:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation*}
A = frac{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (1,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
end{tikzpicture}
}{%
begin{tikzpicture}[baseline]
defL{1.0}
matrix[column sep=.1cm, row sep=2mm,ampersand replacement=&]
{
draw (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0);
&
node at (0,0) {$-$};
&
draw[dashed] (0,0) -- (L,0);
draw[xshift=L cm] (0,0) to[bend left] (L,0) to[bend left] (0,0); \
};
end{tikzpicture}
}
end{equation*}
end{document}
edited Dec 16 '18 at 7:46
answered Dec 16 '18 at 3:22
marmotmarmot
107k5129243
107k5129243
Thanks! It seems that the more versatilematrix
intikzpicture
does not work withfrac
. Althoughbaseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just addampersand replacement=&
and replace&
by&
.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
add a comment |
Thanks! It seems that the more versatilematrix
intikzpicture
does not work withfrac
. Althoughbaseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just addampersand replacement=&
and replace&
by&
.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.
– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
Thanks! It seems that the more versatile
matrix
in tikzpicture
does not work with frac
. Although baseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
Thanks! It seems that the more versatile
matrix
in tikzpicture
does not work with frac
. Although baseline
is one answer to this figure, it will become difficult to deal with multiple rows of figure in the denominator.– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:14
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just add
ampersand replacement=&
and replace &
by &
.– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
@KevinPowell You can definitely use a matrix, just add
ampersand replacement=&
and replace &
by &
.– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why
[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
That's quite neat! Why
[baseline]
option centers the figure in the numerator? It is black magic for me.– Kevin Powell
Dec 17 '18 at 7:42
add a comment |
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
[
A = frac{tikz[baseline=1pt]{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0);}}
{tikz{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0)
( 0.5,0) to[bend left] ( 1.5,0) to[bend left] ( 0.5,0);
draw[dashed, shorten >=1mm, shorten <=1mm] (-0.5,0) -- (0.5,0);}
}
]
end{document}
How is that different from my answer except that you defineM
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use ofbaseline
, which is precisely what I am using.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
I would create apic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition ofM
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
add a comment |
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
[
A = frac{tikz[baseline=1pt]{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0);}}
{tikz{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0)
( 0.5,0) to[bend left] ( 1.5,0) to[bend left] ( 0.5,0);
draw[dashed, shorten >=1mm, shorten <=1mm] (-0.5,0) -- (0.5,0);}
}
]
end{document}
How is that different from my answer except that you defineM
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use ofbaseline
, which is precisely what I am using.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
I would create apic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition ofM
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
add a comment |
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
[
A = frac{tikz[baseline=1pt]{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0);}}
{tikz{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0)
( 0.5,0) to[bend left] ( 1.5,0) to[bend left] ( 0.5,0);
draw[dashed, shorten >=1mm, shorten <=1mm] (-0.5,0) -- (0.5,0);}
}
]
end{document}
documentclass{article}
usepackage{tikz}
begin{document}
[
A = frac{tikz[baseline=1pt]{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0);}}
{tikz{draw (-1.5,0) to[bend left] (-0.5,0) to[bend left] (-1.5,0)
( 0.5,0) to[bend left] ( 1.5,0) to[bend left] ( 0.5,0);
draw[dashed, shorten >=1mm, shorten <=1mm] (-0.5,0) -- (0.5,0);}
}
]
end{document}
edited Dec 16 '18 at 7:16
answered Dec 16 '18 at 3:32
ZarkoZarko
126k868165
126k868165
How is that different from my answer except that you defineM
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use ofbaseline
, which is precisely what I am using.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
I would create apic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition ofM
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
add a comment |
How is that different from my answer except that you defineM
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use ofbaseline
, which is precisely what I am using.
– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
I would create apic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition ofM
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).
– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
How is that different from my answer except that you define
M
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use of baseline
, which is precisely what I am using.– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
How is that different from my answer except that you define
M
but do not use it? The only thing apart from the unused definition I can see is the use of baseline
, which is precisely what I am using.– marmot
Dec 16 '18 at 3:38
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
@marmot the denominator is different. I think there's an error here, because the minus is missing.
– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:04
2
2
I would create a
pic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
I would create a
pic
for the shapes, and suggest to use dots instead of dashes, which could be confused with the minus (@marmot, too).– CarLaTeX
Dec 16 '18 at 4:43
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@CarLaTeX That's a brilliant idea!
– Kevin Powell
Dec 16 '18 at 6:10
@marmot, definition of
M
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
@marmot, definition of
M
is left from some my experiments (now deleted). baseline is used slightly differently. also coordinates of elements are different. however you still can look on my answer as small variation of yours ... (but i wrote it without seeing yours).– Zarko
Dec 16 '18 at 7:22
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please, extend your code fragment to complete small document ...
– Zarko
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