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Consider the Cartesian coordinate system with a vector $$f=(a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}cos(Ntheta),a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}sin(Ntheta),bz)$$where $a,binmathbb{R}$ fixed and $N$ is an integer.

For $f'=f/|f|$, I want to determine the integral
$$int_{-infty}^{infty}int_{-infty}^{infty}f'cdotleft(frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}right) dxdy.$$



To do that, we transform to "almost spherical" coordinates
$r=sqrt{a^2(x^2+y^2)^N+b^2z^2}$
$tantheta=frac{y}{x}$
$tanphi=frac{a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}}{bz}$

with $thetain[0,2pi]$, $phiin[0,pi]$.




How do I rewrite the integral to these new coordinates?




I find that $f=(rsinphicos(Ntheta),rsinphisin(Ntheta),rcosphi)$ and $f'=(sinphicos(Ntheta),sinphisin(Ntheta),cosphi)$, but how do I rewrite $frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}$?










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    Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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    @user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
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Consider the Cartesian coordinate system with a vector $$f=(a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}cos(Ntheta),a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}sin(Ntheta),bz)$$where $a,binmathbb{R}$ fixed and $N$ is an integer.

For $f'=f/|f|$, I want to determine the integral
$$int_{-infty}^{infty}int_{-infty}^{infty}f'cdotleft(frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}right) dxdy.$$



To do that, we transform to "almost spherical" coordinates
$r=sqrt{a^2(x^2+y^2)^N+b^2z^2}$
$tantheta=frac{y}{x}$
$tanphi=frac{a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}}{bz}$

with $thetain[0,2pi]$, $phiin[0,pi]$.




How do I rewrite the integral to these new coordinates?




I find that $f=(rsinphicos(Ntheta),rsinphisin(Ntheta),rcosphi)$ and $f'=(sinphicos(Ntheta),sinphisin(Ntheta),cosphi)$, but how do I rewrite $frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}$?










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    Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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    – user3482749
    Dec 27 '18 at 16:49










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    @user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 17:33














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Consider the Cartesian coordinate system with a vector $$f=(a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}cos(Ntheta),a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}sin(Ntheta),bz)$$where $a,binmathbb{R}$ fixed and $N$ is an integer.

For $f'=f/|f|$, I want to determine the integral
$$int_{-infty}^{infty}int_{-infty}^{infty}f'cdotleft(frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}right) dxdy.$$



To do that, we transform to "almost spherical" coordinates
$r=sqrt{a^2(x^2+y^2)^N+b^2z^2}$
$tantheta=frac{y}{x}$
$tanphi=frac{a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}}{bz}$

with $thetain[0,2pi]$, $phiin[0,pi]$.




How do I rewrite the integral to these new coordinates?




I find that $f=(rsinphicos(Ntheta),rsinphisin(Ntheta),rcosphi)$ and $f'=(sinphicos(Ntheta),sinphisin(Ntheta),cosphi)$, but how do I rewrite $frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}$?










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Consider the Cartesian coordinate system with a vector $$f=(a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}cos(Ntheta),a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}sin(Ntheta),bz)$$where $a,binmathbb{R}$ fixed and $N$ is an integer.

For $f'=f/|f|$, I want to determine the integral
$$int_{-infty}^{infty}int_{-infty}^{infty}f'cdotleft(frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}right) dxdy.$$



To do that, we transform to "almost spherical" coordinates
$r=sqrt{a^2(x^2+y^2)^N+b^2z^2}$
$tantheta=frac{y}{x}$
$tanphi=frac{a(x^2+y^2)^{N/2}}{bz}$

with $thetain[0,2pi]$, $phiin[0,pi]$.




How do I rewrite the integral to these new coordinates?




I find that $f=(rsinphicos(Ntheta),rsinphisin(Ntheta),rcosphi)$ and $f'=(sinphicos(Ntheta),sinphisin(Ntheta),cosphi)$, but how do I rewrite $frac{partial f'}{partial x}timesfrac{partial f'}{partial y}$?







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    Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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    – user3482749
    Dec 27 '18 at 16:49










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    @user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 17:33


















  • $begingroup$
    Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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    – user3482749
    Dec 27 '18 at 16:49










  • $begingroup$
    @user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 17:33
















$begingroup$
Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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– user3482749
Dec 27 '18 at 16:49




$begingroup$
Recall the chain rule: $frac{partial f'}{partial x} = frac{partial f'}{partial r}frac{partial r}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial theta}frac{partial theta}{partial x}+frac{partial f'}{partial phi}frac{partial phi}{partial x}$, and similarly for $frac{partial f'}{partial y}$.
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– user3482749
Dec 27 '18 at 16:49












$begingroup$
@user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
$endgroup$
– Pierre LeFèvre
Dec 27 '18 at 17:33




$begingroup$
@user3482749 And how do the integral variables change? We integrate over $x$ and $y$ from $-infty$ to $infty$, what does that become in the new coordinates?
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Dec 27 '18 at 17:33










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First, to answer your question, you need to find the Jacobian Matrix $mathcal{J}$ between the 2 set of coodinates. And then $dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta$, where $|mathcal{J}|$ is the determinant of the Jacobian Matrix.



There are a couple more problems in your thinking




  • Your original integral is 2-D, I feel it is better to just think $z$
    as a constant and ignore the third coordinate $z$ (or $phi$) in the transformation


  • $f$ is a vector already, then $f'$ is a very confusing notation.
    It can be a matrix (gradient)
    $$
    f' = [partial_x f, partial_y f, partial_z f]
    $$

    It can be a vector (curl)
    $$
    f' = nabla times f
    $$

    It can also be a scalar (divergence)
    $$
    f' = nabla cdot f
    $$



not sure which one you are referring to , but I guess it is the third one




  • I noticed that $theta$ is not a new variable you defined, it is already in the definition of your $f$ function. Is your transformation definition of $theta$ consistent with the meaning of $theta$ in $f$ function?


So if you define the transformation between $x,y$ and $r,theta$ as
$$
r = a(x^2 + y^2) ^{N/2} quad tantheta = frac{y}{x}
$$



Your Jacobian matrix is
$$
mathcal{J} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{partial x}{partial r} & frac{partial x}{partial theta} \
frac{partial y}{partial r} & frac{partial y}{partial theta} \
end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta & -(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta \
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta & (frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$



so



$$
dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta = frac{2}{Nr}left(frac{r}{a}right)^{4/N}drdtheta
$$



Just a sanity check, when $N=2, a=1$, we can observer that it falls back to the form of polar cooridnate
$$
dxdy = rdrdtheta
$$






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    Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 21:47










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    So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
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    Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
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    – MoonKnight
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:36












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First, to answer your question, you need to find the Jacobian Matrix $mathcal{J}$ between the 2 set of coodinates. And then $dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta$, where $|mathcal{J}|$ is the determinant of the Jacobian Matrix.



There are a couple more problems in your thinking




  • Your original integral is 2-D, I feel it is better to just think $z$
    as a constant and ignore the third coordinate $z$ (or $phi$) in the transformation


  • $f$ is a vector already, then $f'$ is a very confusing notation.
    It can be a matrix (gradient)
    $$
    f' = [partial_x f, partial_y f, partial_z f]
    $$

    It can be a vector (curl)
    $$
    f' = nabla times f
    $$

    It can also be a scalar (divergence)
    $$
    f' = nabla cdot f
    $$



not sure which one you are referring to , but I guess it is the third one




  • I noticed that $theta$ is not a new variable you defined, it is already in the definition of your $f$ function. Is your transformation definition of $theta$ consistent with the meaning of $theta$ in $f$ function?


So if you define the transformation between $x,y$ and $r,theta$ as
$$
r = a(x^2 + y^2) ^{N/2} quad tantheta = frac{y}{x}
$$



Your Jacobian matrix is
$$
mathcal{J} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{partial x}{partial r} & frac{partial x}{partial theta} \
frac{partial y}{partial r} & frac{partial y}{partial theta} \
end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta & -(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta \
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta & (frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$



so



$$
dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta = frac{2}{Nr}left(frac{r}{a}right)^{4/N}drdtheta
$$



Just a sanity check, when $N=2, a=1$, we can observer that it falls back to the form of polar cooridnate
$$
dxdy = rdrdtheta
$$






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    Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 21:47










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    So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
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    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 28 '18 at 9:25










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    Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
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    – MoonKnight
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:36
















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$begingroup$

First, to answer your question, you need to find the Jacobian Matrix $mathcal{J}$ between the 2 set of coodinates. And then $dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta$, where $|mathcal{J}|$ is the determinant of the Jacobian Matrix.



There are a couple more problems in your thinking




  • Your original integral is 2-D, I feel it is better to just think $z$
    as a constant and ignore the third coordinate $z$ (or $phi$) in the transformation


  • $f$ is a vector already, then $f'$ is a very confusing notation.
    It can be a matrix (gradient)
    $$
    f' = [partial_x f, partial_y f, partial_z f]
    $$

    It can be a vector (curl)
    $$
    f' = nabla times f
    $$

    It can also be a scalar (divergence)
    $$
    f' = nabla cdot f
    $$



not sure which one you are referring to , but I guess it is the third one




  • I noticed that $theta$ is not a new variable you defined, it is already in the definition of your $f$ function. Is your transformation definition of $theta$ consistent with the meaning of $theta$ in $f$ function?


So if you define the transformation between $x,y$ and $r,theta$ as
$$
r = a(x^2 + y^2) ^{N/2} quad tantheta = frac{y}{x}
$$



Your Jacobian matrix is
$$
mathcal{J} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{partial x}{partial r} & frac{partial x}{partial theta} \
frac{partial y}{partial r} & frac{partial y}{partial theta} \
end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta & -(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta \
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta & (frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$



so



$$
dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta = frac{2}{Nr}left(frac{r}{a}right)^{4/N}drdtheta
$$



Just a sanity check, when $N=2, a=1$, we can observer that it falls back to the form of polar cooridnate
$$
dxdy = rdrdtheta
$$






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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 21:47










  • $begingroup$
    So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 28 '18 at 9:25










  • $begingroup$
    Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
    $endgroup$
    – MoonKnight
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:36














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$begingroup$

First, to answer your question, you need to find the Jacobian Matrix $mathcal{J}$ between the 2 set of coodinates. And then $dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta$, where $|mathcal{J}|$ is the determinant of the Jacobian Matrix.



There are a couple more problems in your thinking




  • Your original integral is 2-D, I feel it is better to just think $z$
    as a constant and ignore the third coordinate $z$ (or $phi$) in the transformation


  • $f$ is a vector already, then $f'$ is a very confusing notation.
    It can be a matrix (gradient)
    $$
    f' = [partial_x f, partial_y f, partial_z f]
    $$

    It can be a vector (curl)
    $$
    f' = nabla times f
    $$

    It can also be a scalar (divergence)
    $$
    f' = nabla cdot f
    $$



not sure which one you are referring to , but I guess it is the third one




  • I noticed that $theta$ is not a new variable you defined, it is already in the definition of your $f$ function. Is your transformation definition of $theta$ consistent with the meaning of $theta$ in $f$ function?


So if you define the transformation between $x,y$ and $r,theta$ as
$$
r = a(x^2 + y^2) ^{N/2} quad tantheta = frac{y}{x}
$$



Your Jacobian matrix is
$$
mathcal{J} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{partial x}{partial r} & frac{partial x}{partial theta} \
frac{partial y}{partial r} & frac{partial y}{partial theta} \
end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta & -(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta \
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta & (frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$



so



$$
dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta = frac{2}{Nr}left(frac{r}{a}right)^{4/N}drdtheta
$$



Just a sanity check, when $N=2, a=1$, we can observer that it falls back to the form of polar cooridnate
$$
dxdy = rdrdtheta
$$






share|cite|improve this answer









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First, to answer your question, you need to find the Jacobian Matrix $mathcal{J}$ between the 2 set of coodinates. And then $dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta$, where $|mathcal{J}|$ is the determinant of the Jacobian Matrix.



There are a couple more problems in your thinking




  • Your original integral is 2-D, I feel it is better to just think $z$
    as a constant and ignore the third coordinate $z$ (or $phi$) in the transformation


  • $f$ is a vector already, then $f'$ is a very confusing notation.
    It can be a matrix (gradient)
    $$
    f' = [partial_x f, partial_y f, partial_z f]
    $$

    It can be a vector (curl)
    $$
    f' = nabla times f
    $$

    It can also be a scalar (divergence)
    $$
    f' = nabla cdot f
    $$



not sure which one you are referring to , but I guess it is the third one




  • I noticed that $theta$ is not a new variable you defined, it is already in the definition of your $f$ function. Is your transformation definition of $theta$ consistent with the meaning of $theta$ in $f$ function?


So if you define the transformation between $x,y$ and $r,theta$ as
$$
r = a(x^2 + y^2) ^{N/2} quad tantheta = frac{y}{x}
$$



Your Jacobian matrix is
$$
mathcal{J} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{partial x}{partial r} & frac{partial x}{partial theta} \
frac{partial y}{partial r} & frac{partial y}{partial theta} \
end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix}
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta & -(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta \
frac{2}{Nr}(frac{r}{a})^{2/N}sintheta & (frac{r}{a})^{2/N}costheta \
end{bmatrix}
$$



so



$$
dxdy = |mathcal{J}|drdtheta = frac{2}{Nr}left(frac{r}{a}right)^{4/N}drdtheta
$$



Just a sanity check, when $N=2, a=1$, we can observer that it falls back to the form of polar cooridnate
$$
dxdy = rdrdtheta
$$







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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 21:47










  • $begingroup$
    So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 28 '18 at 9:25










  • $begingroup$
    Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
    $endgroup$
    – MoonKnight
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:36


















  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 27 '18 at 21:47










  • $begingroup$
    So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Pierre LeFèvre
    Dec 28 '18 at 9:25










  • $begingroup$
    Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
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    – MoonKnight
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Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
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– Pierre LeFèvre
Dec 27 '18 at 21:47




$begingroup$
Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify on the points you made: $f'$ is my (indeed poor) notation for the unit vector in the direction of $f$, i.e. $f':=f/|f|$. Further $theta$ is indeed consistent with the $theta$ in $f$. Nice username btw :)
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– Pierre LeFèvre
Dec 27 '18 at 21:47












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So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
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– Pierre LeFèvre
Dec 28 '18 at 9:25




$begingroup$
So to find $dx$, $dy$ in the integral we basically take $theta=pi/2$. Must we also fill that in in our expression for $f’cdot (partial_x f’times partial_y f’)$?
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– Pierre LeFèvre
Dec 28 '18 at 9:25












$begingroup$
Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
$endgroup$
– MoonKnight
Dec 28 '18 at 18:36




$begingroup$
Oh sorry I missed your definition of $f'$, now it makes sense. I will update the solution later (probably tonight). btw. I don't understand your comment about $theta=pi/2$. There is no dependence of $theta$ in the conversion of $dxdy$ because all $theta$ cancels out in the $cos^2theta + sin^2theta=1$ calculation. Maybe you misunderstand how to calculate the determinant of a matrix.
$endgroup$
– MoonKnight
Dec 28 '18 at 18:36


















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