What is the best way to motivate your peers to “go read up about it” vs. explaining them everything at...





.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty{ margin-bottom:0;
}







-2















We have many cases where colleagues with different experience levels are in a meeting and discussing potential software design(s). And another set of engineers who don't "get it" and would rather simplify everything - by simplification I mean "simplify to their understanding" and not necessarily adopt the suggested principles/practices in our domain.



At times, meetings have been derailed just so that we get provide a knowledge dump, which is exhausting with all cross-questioning/teaching etc., and then are they on board.



We've had discussion where we've explicitly given them some knowledge dump and provided links/books/references to follow up on the others. However, the "follow up" never happens and we're back to square one. It seems there's resistance in putting up the effort to "read up about it" and then come back with questions/clarifications/suggestions vs. argue about it right there and go back not feeling convinced and just leaving it at a stalemate.



What are good ways to "motivate peers" to "study/learn" new things vs. derailing meetings to explain everything to them?



UPDATE: This is not as straightforward to "Google it". It's more difficult than a keyword search but more of understanding underlying concepts and why things are done/preferred in a particular way. At times, books do a much better job than Google. The idea is probably to go a little deeper into the topic and make sense of the disparate sources of information to understand something that may take a few hours worth of mulling/understanding vs. a few minutes of Googling. It's about "lack of domain expertise" and unwillingness to "build it up" vs. "explain it to me right now".










share|improve this question









New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





















  • Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago











  • @DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

    – PhD
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago











  • I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

    – Justin Cave
    4 hours ago


















-2















We have many cases where colleagues with different experience levels are in a meeting and discussing potential software design(s). And another set of engineers who don't "get it" and would rather simplify everything - by simplification I mean "simplify to their understanding" and not necessarily adopt the suggested principles/practices in our domain.



At times, meetings have been derailed just so that we get provide a knowledge dump, which is exhausting with all cross-questioning/teaching etc., and then are they on board.



We've had discussion where we've explicitly given them some knowledge dump and provided links/books/references to follow up on the others. However, the "follow up" never happens and we're back to square one. It seems there's resistance in putting up the effort to "read up about it" and then come back with questions/clarifications/suggestions vs. argue about it right there and go back not feeling convinced and just leaving it at a stalemate.



What are good ways to "motivate peers" to "study/learn" new things vs. derailing meetings to explain everything to them?



UPDATE: This is not as straightforward to "Google it". It's more difficult than a keyword search but more of understanding underlying concepts and why things are done/preferred in a particular way. At times, books do a much better job than Google. The idea is probably to go a little deeper into the topic and make sense of the disparate sources of information to understand something that may take a few hours worth of mulling/understanding vs. a few minutes of Googling. It's about "lack of domain expertise" and unwillingness to "build it up" vs. "explain it to me right now".










share|improve this question









New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





















  • Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago











  • @DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

    – PhD
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago











  • I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

    – Justin Cave
    4 hours ago














-2












-2








-2


0






We have many cases where colleagues with different experience levels are in a meeting and discussing potential software design(s). And another set of engineers who don't "get it" and would rather simplify everything - by simplification I mean "simplify to their understanding" and not necessarily adopt the suggested principles/practices in our domain.



At times, meetings have been derailed just so that we get provide a knowledge dump, which is exhausting with all cross-questioning/teaching etc., and then are they on board.



We've had discussion where we've explicitly given them some knowledge dump and provided links/books/references to follow up on the others. However, the "follow up" never happens and we're back to square one. It seems there's resistance in putting up the effort to "read up about it" and then come back with questions/clarifications/suggestions vs. argue about it right there and go back not feeling convinced and just leaving it at a stalemate.



What are good ways to "motivate peers" to "study/learn" new things vs. derailing meetings to explain everything to them?



UPDATE: This is not as straightforward to "Google it". It's more difficult than a keyword search but more of understanding underlying concepts and why things are done/preferred in a particular way. At times, books do a much better job than Google. The idea is probably to go a little deeper into the topic and make sense of the disparate sources of information to understand something that may take a few hours worth of mulling/understanding vs. a few minutes of Googling. It's about "lack of domain expertise" and unwillingness to "build it up" vs. "explain it to me right now".










share|improve this question









New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.












We have many cases where colleagues with different experience levels are in a meeting and discussing potential software design(s). And another set of engineers who don't "get it" and would rather simplify everything - by simplification I mean "simplify to their understanding" and not necessarily adopt the suggested principles/practices in our domain.



At times, meetings have been derailed just so that we get provide a knowledge dump, which is exhausting with all cross-questioning/teaching etc., and then are they on board.



We've had discussion where we've explicitly given them some knowledge dump and provided links/books/references to follow up on the others. However, the "follow up" never happens and we're back to square one. It seems there's resistance in putting up the effort to "read up about it" and then come back with questions/clarifications/suggestions vs. argue about it right there and go back not feeling convinced and just leaving it at a stalemate.



What are good ways to "motivate peers" to "study/learn" new things vs. derailing meetings to explain everything to them?



UPDATE: This is not as straightforward to "Google it". It's more difficult than a keyword search but more of understanding underlying concepts and why things are done/preferred in a particular way. At times, books do a much better job than Google. The idea is probably to go a little deeper into the topic and make sense of the disparate sources of information to understand something that may take a few hours worth of mulling/understanding vs. a few minutes of Googling. It's about "lack of domain expertise" and unwillingness to "build it up" vs. "explain it to me right now".







professionalism communication colleagues education mentoring






share|improve this question









New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question









New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 4 hours ago







PhD













New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 6 hours ago









PhDPhD

1003




1003




New contributor




PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






PhD is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.













  • Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago











  • @DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

    – PhD
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago











  • I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

    – Justin Cave
    4 hours ago



















  • Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago











  • @DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

    – PhD
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago











  • I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

    – Justin Cave
    4 hours ago

















Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago





Possible duplicate of How to politely ask a coworker to “Google it”

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago













@DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

– PhD
5 hours ago





@DarkCygnus - it's not entirely "Google-able" IMHO - this is deeper than just "keyword search" but more like "knowledge gained" - probably multiple google searches linking disparate ideas. Unfortunately it's hard to "google it" exactly so we tend to save books, links, references when we find it...

– PhD
5 hours ago




1




1





what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

– aaaaaa
5 hours ago





what is your job and how exactly this situation prevents you from doing it?

– aaaaaa
5 hours ago













I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago







I suggest you read the post and answers, and not just judge a post by its title... There are several answers that apply to the situation you describe here, I am sure they will at least give you some pointers... perhaps it requires several google searches, but in a bigger sense "google it" means "try finding it on your own"

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago






1




1





Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

– Justin Cave
4 hours ago





Is everyone in the meeting actually necessary? Including junior engineers in a design meeting when they lack the background to understand the design decisions being made doesn't seem productive. It would seem to make more sense to limit design meetings to folks that are up to speed on the background and to separately work to bring junior engineers up to speed. That may involve a dedicated "intro to x" meeting, it may involve some sort of official or semi-official training/ mentorship program where they are given books and articles to read and other opportunities to learn.

– Justin Cave
4 hours ago










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















1














It Sounds Like You’re Wasting People’s Time



I see two problems in your question:




  1. You have meetings that are about a general topic (software design), but don’t seem to have a concrete goal or purpose, at least not from the description in the question and the comments on the question.

  2. Some people attending the meeting do not seem to be willing or able to contribute anything to it.


I suspect Issue 1 partly causes Issue 2.



Meetings Should Have A Specific Goal or Purpose



At least in my job in the software industry, we do not have abstract discussions about the design of our software, because we’re busy doing work. We have design discussions when we’re designing something new, or when we’re making a change to something we already did, i.e. when we’re about to do some work that’s going to affect specifcally identifiable other members of the team.



If this is a meeting where people just “throw ideas out there” about what the design should look like, it doesn’t sound like there’s enough planning of the meeting’s agenda in advance for whatever the topic of the meeting is supposed to be. Whoever is running this meeting should know enough about what needs to be done or what specific problem the meeting will solve, that they can prepare the other attendees for the meeting in advance, (e.g. with documentation, notes, slides, whatever) so people can arrive at this meeting knowing why they are there and what they’re talking about. Which leads into your other problem:



Invites to the Meeting Should be Limited to People Who Can Contribute To It



You say in the question that these people who aren’t doing the learning that you would like them to do are peers. In other words, that you are not their boss. I assume that means they have a boss that has expectations of them that are different from yours, and that your peers take those expectations more seriously. Did you consider that maybe your peers don’t want to be at this meeting? I mean, if they wanted to be there, I think they would do all of this reading you want them to do without having to conjure up how to get them to do it. Or if their boss wanted them to be there, that they would do all of this work. Your boss doesn’t have to wonder how to motivate people, right?



It’s also possible that you may have overestimated their relative ability to understand or care about the topic of these meetings for some other reason. Maybe they’re not really your peers? Maybe you’re expecting them to perform at your level when they aren’t there?



Those are only two possibilities; there are countless more. Regardless of the reasons why, it’s clear that they are unable to contribute to the meeting productively. So, don’t invite them.



This goes back to planning the meeting with a specific goal or purpose. If the goal is to discuss the design of feature X, then you only need people who will implement X and people who understand the requirements for feature X. Maybe you have the testers for feature X also (if your organization has testers).



If you think the meeting attendance list is so limited already, then you need to improve the pre-meeting preparation so that everyone will have at least some idea of what everyone is talking about.






share|improve this answer
























  • The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

    – PhD
    2 hours ago












Your Answer








StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "423"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});






PhD is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f135613%2fwhat-is-the-best-way-to-motivate-your-peers-to-go-read-up-about-it-vs-explain%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









1














It Sounds Like You’re Wasting People’s Time



I see two problems in your question:




  1. You have meetings that are about a general topic (software design), but don’t seem to have a concrete goal or purpose, at least not from the description in the question and the comments on the question.

  2. Some people attending the meeting do not seem to be willing or able to contribute anything to it.


I suspect Issue 1 partly causes Issue 2.



Meetings Should Have A Specific Goal or Purpose



At least in my job in the software industry, we do not have abstract discussions about the design of our software, because we’re busy doing work. We have design discussions when we’re designing something new, or when we’re making a change to something we already did, i.e. when we’re about to do some work that’s going to affect specifcally identifiable other members of the team.



If this is a meeting where people just “throw ideas out there” about what the design should look like, it doesn’t sound like there’s enough planning of the meeting’s agenda in advance for whatever the topic of the meeting is supposed to be. Whoever is running this meeting should know enough about what needs to be done or what specific problem the meeting will solve, that they can prepare the other attendees for the meeting in advance, (e.g. with documentation, notes, slides, whatever) so people can arrive at this meeting knowing why they are there and what they’re talking about. Which leads into your other problem:



Invites to the Meeting Should be Limited to People Who Can Contribute To It



You say in the question that these people who aren’t doing the learning that you would like them to do are peers. In other words, that you are not their boss. I assume that means they have a boss that has expectations of them that are different from yours, and that your peers take those expectations more seriously. Did you consider that maybe your peers don’t want to be at this meeting? I mean, if they wanted to be there, I think they would do all of this reading you want them to do without having to conjure up how to get them to do it. Or if their boss wanted them to be there, that they would do all of this work. Your boss doesn’t have to wonder how to motivate people, right?



It’s also possible that you may have overestimated their relative ability to understand or care about the topic of these meetings for some other reason. Maybe they’re not really your peers? Maybe you’re expecting them to perform at your level when they aren’t there?



Those are only two possibilities; there are countless more. Regardless of the reasons why, it’s clear that they are unable to contribute to the meeting productively. So, don’t invite them.



This goes back to planning the meeting with a specific goal or purpose. If the goal is to discuss the design of feature X, then you only need people who will implement X and people who understand the requirements for feature X. Maybe you have the testers for feature X also (if your organization has testers).



If you think the meeting attendance list is so limited already, then you need to improve the pre-meeting preparation so that everyone will have at least some idea of what everyone is talking about.






share|improve this answer
























  • The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

    – PhD
    2 hours ago
















1














It Sounds Like You’re Wasting People’s Time



I see two problems in your question:




  1. You have meetings that are about a general topic (software design), but don’t seem to have a concrete goal or purpose, at least not from the description in the question and the comments on the question.

  2. Some people attending the meeting do not seem to be willing or able to contribute anything to it.


I suspect Issue 1 partly causes Issue 2.



Meetings Should Have A Specific Goal or Purpose



At least in my job in the software industry, we do not have abstract discussions about the design of our software, because we’re busy doing work. We have design discussions when we’re designing something new, or when we’re making a change to something we already did, i.e. when we’re about to do some work that’s going to affect specifcally identifiable other members of the team.



If this is a meeting where people just “throw ideas out there” about what the design should look like, it doesn’t sound like there’s enough planning of the meeting’s agenda in advance for whatever the topic of the meeting is supposed to be. Whoever is running this meeting should know enough about what needs to be done or what specific problem the meeting will solve, that they can prepare the other attendees for the meeting in advance, (e.g. with documentation, notes, slides, whatever) so people can arrive at this meeting knowing why they are there and what they’re talking about. Which leads into your other problem:



Invites to the Meeting Should be Limited to People Who Can Contribute To It



You say in the question that these people who aren’t doing the learning that you would like them to do are peers. In other words, that you are not their boss. I assume that means they have a boss that has expectations of them that are different from yours, and that your peers take those expectations more seriously. Did you consider that maybe your peers don’t want to be at this meeting? I mean, if they wanted to be there, I think they would do all of this reading you want them to do without having to conjure up how to get them to do it. Or if their boss wanted them to be there, that they would do all of this work. Your boss doesn’t have to wonder how to motivate people, right?



It’s also possible that you may have overestimated their relative ability to understand or care about the topic of these meetings for some other reason. Maybe they’re not really your peers? Maybe you’re expecting them to perform at your level when they aren’t there?



Those are only two possibilities; there are countless more. Regardless of the reasons why, it’s clear that they are unable to contribute to the meeting productively. So, don’t invite them.



This goes back to planning the meeting with a specific goal or purpose. If the goal is to discuss the design of feature X, then you only need people who will implement X and people who understand the requirements for feature X. Maybe you have the testers for feature X also (if your organization has testers).



If you think the meeting attendance list is so limited already, then you need to improve the pre-meeting preparation so that everyone will have at least some idea of what everyone is talking about.






share|improve this answer
























  • The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

    – PhD
    2 hours ago














1












1








1







It Sounds Like You’re Wasting People’s Time



I see two problems in your question:




  1. You have meetings that are about a general topic (software design), but don’t seem to have a concrete goal or purpose, at least not from the description in the question and the comments on the question.

  2. Some people attending the meeting do not seem to be willing or able to contribute anything to it.


I suspect Issue 1 partly causes Issue 2.



Meetings Should Have A Specific Goal or Purpose



At least in my job in the software industry, we do not have abstract discussions about the design of our software, because we’re busy doing work. We have design discussions when we’re designing something new, or when we’re making a change to something we already did, i.e. when we’re about to do some work that’s going to affect specifcally identifiable other members of the team.



If this is a meeting where people just “throw ideas out there” about what the design should look like, it doesn’t sound like there’s enough planning of the meeting’s agenda in advance for whatever the topic of the meeting is supposed to be. Whoever is running this meeting should know enough about what needs to be done or what specific problem the meeting will solve, that they can prepare the other attendees for the meeting in advance, (e.g. with documentation, notes, slides, whatever) so people can arrive at this meeting knowing why they are there and what they’re talking about. Which leads into your other problem:



Invites to the Meeting Should be Limited to People Who Can Contribute To It



You say in the question that these people who aren’t doing the learning that you would like them to do are peers. In other words, that you are not their boss. I assume that means they have a boss that has expectations of them that are different from yours, and that your peers take those expectations more seriously. Did you consider that maybe your peers don’t want to be at this meeting? I mean, if they wanted to be there, I think they would do all of this reading you want them to do without having to conjure up how to get them to do it. Or if their boss wanted them to be there, that they would do all of this work. Your boss doesn’t have to wonder how to motivate people, right?



It’s also possible that you may have overestimated their relative ability to understand or care about the topic of these meetings for some other reason. Maybe they’re not really your peers? Maybe you’re expecting them to perform at your level when they aren’t there?



Those are only two possibilities; there are countless more. Regardless of the reasons why, it’s clear that they are unable to contribute to the meeting productively. So, don’t invite them.



This goes back to planning the meeting with a specific goal or purpose. If the goal is to discuss the design of feature X, then you only need people who will implement X and people who understand the requirements for feature X. Maybe you have the testers for feature X also (if your organization has testers).



If you think the meeting attendance list is so limited already, then you need to improve the pre-meeting preparation so that everyone will have at least some idea of what everyone is talking about.






share|improve this answer













It Sounds Like You’re Wasting People’s Time



I see two problems in your question:




  1. You have meetings that are about a general topic (software design), but don’t seem to have a concrete goal or purpose, at least not from the description in the question and the comments on the question.

  2. Some people attending the meeting do not seem to be willing or able to contribute anything to it.


I suspect Issue 1 partly causes Issue 2.



Meetings Should Have A Specific Goal or Purpose



At least in my job in the software industry, we do not have abstract discussions about the design of our software, because we’re busy doing work. We have design discussions when we’re designing something new, or when we’re making a change to something we already did, i.e. when we’re about to do some work that’s going to affect specifcally identifiable other members of the team.



If this is a meeting where people just “throw ideas out there” about what the design should look like, it doesn’t sound like there’s enough planning of the meeting’s agenda in advance for whatever the topic of the meeting is supposed to be. Whoever is running this meeting should know enough about what needs to be done or what specific problem the meeting will solve, that they can prepare the other attendees for the meeting in advance, (e.g. with documentation, notes, slides, whatever) so people can arrive at this meeting knowing why they are there and what they’re talking about. Which leads into your other problem:



Invites to the Meeting Should be Limited to People Who Can Contribute To It



You say in the question that these people who aren’t doing the learning that you would like them to do are peers. In other words, that you are not their boss. I assume that means they have a boss that has expectations of them that are different from yours, and that your peers take those expectations more seriously. Did you consider that maybe your peers don’t want to be at this meeting? I mean, if they wanted to be there, I think they would do all of this reading you want them to do without having to conjure up how to get them to do it. Or if their boss wanted them to be there, that they would do all of this work. Your boss doesn’t have to wonder how to motivate people, right?



It’s also possible that you may have overestimated their relative ability to understand or care about the topic of these meetings for some other reason. Maybe they’re not really your peers? Maybe you’re expecting them to perform at your level when they aren’t there?



Those are only two possibilities; there are countless more. Regardless of the reasons why, it’s clear that they are unable to contribute to the meeting productively. So, don’t invite them.



This goes back to planning the meeting with a specific goal or purpose. If the goal is to discuss the design of feature X, then you only need people who will implement X and people who understand the requirements for feature X. Maybe you have the testers for feature X also (if your organization has testers).



If you think the meeting attendance list is so limited already, then you need to improve the pre-meeting preparation so that everyone will have at least some idea of what everyone is talking about.







share|improve this answer












share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer










answered 2 hours ago









JoeJoe

1,436314




1,436314













  • The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

    – PhD
    2 hours ago



















  • The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

    – PhD
    2 hours ago

















The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

– PhD
2 hours ago





The meetings have a specific goal and only those that need to be there are invited. It’s when we’re talking about a specific design and others may not “get it” is when the problems arise. A current suggestion is to further streamline the meeting agenda and table discussions of meta-learning to see if it’ll help.

– PhD
2 hours ago










PhD is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










draft saved

draft discarded


















PhD is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













PhD is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












PhD is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















Thanks for contributing an answer to The Workplace Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f135613%2fwhat-is-the-best-way-to-motivate-your-peers-to-go-read-up-about-it-vs-explain%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Le Mesnil-Réaume

Ida-Boy-Ed-Garten

web3.py web3.isConnected() returns false always