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A broken clock moves the minute hand each minute randomly one minute ahead and one minute behind with equal probabilities. Each minute it does so independently of all other times it moved the minute hand.



The hour hand is on the other synchronized with the minute hand. The clock starts running at noon and let T denotes the first time that the clock shows either 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock, whatever happens first. Compute E(T).



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A broken clock moves the minute hand each minute randomly one minute ahead and one minute behind with equal probabilities. Each minute it does so independently of all other times it moved the minute hand.



The hour hand is on the other synchronized with the minute hand. The clock starts running at noon and let T denotes the first time that the clock shows either 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock, whatever happens first. Compute E(T).



I need some advice/suggestion on doing this problem.










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A broken clock moves the minute hand each minute randomly one minute ahead and one minute behind with equal probabilities. Each minute it does so independently of all other times it moved the minute hand.



The hour hand is on the other synchronized with the minute hand. The clock starts running at noon and let T denotes the first time that the clock shows either 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock, whatever happens first. Compute E(T).



I need some advice/suggestion on doing this problem.










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A broken clock moves the minute hand each minute randomly one minute ahead and one minute behind with equal probabilities. Each minute it does so independently of all other times it moved the minute hand.



The hour hand is on the other synchronized with the minute hand. The clock starts running at noon and let T denotes the first time that the clock shows either 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock, whatever happens first. Compute E(T).



I need some advice/suggestion on doing this problem.







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This question is old, but it can be solved by treating the clock's advance or retreat as a random walk starting at $0$, and absorbing barriers at $-60$ and $60$. Then the expected time to absorption is $60 times 60 = 3600$. The analysis can be found in various resources; see, for example, http://www2.math.uu.se/~sea/kurser/stokprocmn1/slumpvandring_eng.pdf






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