Finding the p.d.f. of Z=X1+ X2 using the C.D.F. Technique (Functions of Random Variable) [closed]











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if $X_1$ & $X_2$ are uniform random variables then find pdf of $Z= X_1+ X_2$. $$f(x_1,x_2) = 2quadbig[0 leqslant x_1 leqslant x_2 leqslant 1big]$$ I don't know how to set up the limits of integration. Please help,.. i actually need diagram with proper understanding










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          Just look to the support of the joint function, $(X_1,X_2)in{(x,y): 0leqslant xleqslant yleqslant 1}$. When $Z=X_1+X_2$ this means:




          • the pdf for $Z$ is supported over $0$ to $2$, the minimum and maximum values of the sum.


          • we can substitute $y:=z-x$ to obtain the support for the joint pdf for $(X_1,Z)$ .



            $$begin{split}(X_1,Z)&in{(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2 ~land~ 0leqslant xleqslant z-xleqslant 1}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~0leqslant xleqslant 1 ~land~ 1-zleqslant xleqslant z/2}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~max(0,1-z)leqslant xleqslantmin(1, z/2)}\&in {left{(x,z):raise{2ex}{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~\lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}right}} end{split}$$




          We partition the support for $Z$ at $1$ since $max(0,z-1)=begin{cases}0 &:& z<1\z-1&:&1leqslant zend{cases}$



          In this instance there is no concern over $min(1,z/2)$ since it is $z/2$ for all $z$ that are supported values of $Z$.



          Using the Jaccobian change of variables transformation, the joint pdf we require is:



          $$begin{align}f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)&=begin{Vmatrix}dfrac{partial[x,z-x]}{partial[x,z]}end{Vmatrix}f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\[1ex] &= f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\ &= 2cdotmathbf 1_{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}end{align}$$



          So applying the Law of Total Probability (Density) .



          $$begin{align}f_{Z}(z) &=int_Bbb R f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)mathsf d x\[2ex]& =int_Bbb R f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)~mathsf d x\[2ex]&= int_{0}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{0leq z<1}~mathsf d x+int_{z-1}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{1leq zleq 2}~mathsf d x end{align}$$






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          • really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:18










          • what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:26










          • how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:30










          • o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:31










          • this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:32


















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          Just look to the support of the joint function, $(X_1,X_2)in{(x,y): 0leqslant xleqslant yleqslant 1}$. When $Z=X_1+X_2$ this means:




          • the pdf for $Z$ is supported over $0$ to $2$, the minimum and maximum values of the sum.


          • we can substitute $y:=z-x$ to obtain the support for the joint pdf for $(X_1,Z)$ .



            $$begin{split}(X_1,Z)&in{(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2 ~land~ 0leqslant xleqslant z-xleqslant 1}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~0leqslant xleqslant 1 ~land~ 1-zleqslant xleqslant z/2}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~max(0,1-z)leqslant xleqslantmin(1, z/2)}\&in {left{(x,z):raise{2ex}{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~\lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}right}} end{split}$$




          We partition the support for $Z$ at $1$ since $max(0,z-1)=begin{cases}0 &:& z<1\z-1&:&1leqslant zend{cases}$



          In this instance there is no concern over $min(1,z/2)$ since it is $z/2$ for all $z$ that are supported values of $Z$.



          Using the Jaccobian change of variables transformation, the joint pdf we require is:



          $$begin{align}f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)&=begin{Vmatrix}dfrac{partial[x,z-x]}{partial[x,z]}end{Vmatrix}f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\[1ex] &= f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\ &= 2cdotmathbf 1_{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}end{align}$$



          So applying the Law of Total Probability (Density) .



          $$begin{align}f_{Z}(z) &=int_Bbb R f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)mathsf d x\[2ex]& =int_Bbb R f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)~mathsf d x\[2ex]&= int_{0}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{0leq z<1}~mathsf d x+int_{z-1}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{1leq zleq 2}~mathsf d x end{align}$$






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          • really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:18










          • what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:26










          • how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:30










          • o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:31










          • this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:32















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          0
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          Just look to the support of the joint function, $(X_1,X_2)in{(x,y): 0leqslant xleqslant yleqslant 1}$. When $Z=X_1+X_2$ this means:




          • the pdf for $Z$ is supported over $0$ to $2$, the minimum and maximum values of the sum.


          • we can substitute $y:=z-x$ to obtain the support for the joint pdf for $(X_1,Z)$ .



            $$begin{split}(X_1,Z)&in{(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2 ~land~ 0leqslant xleqslant z-xleqslant 1}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~0leqslant xleqslant 1 ~land~ 1-zleqslant xleqslant z/2}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~max(0,1-z)leqslant xleqslantmin(1, z/2)}\&in {left{(x,z):raise{2ex}{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~\lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}right}} end{split}$$




          We partition the support for $Z$ at $1$ since $max(0,z-1)=begin{cases}0 &:& z<1\z-1&:&1leqslant zend{cases}$



          In this instance there is no concern over $min(1,z/2)$ since it is $z/2$ for all $z$ that are supported values of $Z$.



          Using the Jaccobian change of variables transformation, the joint pdf we require is:



          $$begin{align}f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)&=begin{Vmatrix}dfrac{partial[x,z-x]}{partial[x,z]}end{Vmatrix}f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\[1ex] &= f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\ &= 2cdotmathbf 1_{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}end{align}$$



          So applying the Law of Total Probability (Density) .



          $$begin{align}f_{Z}(z) &=int_Bbb R f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)mathsf d x\[2ex]& =int_Bbb R f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)~mathsf d x\[2ex]&= int_{0}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{0leq z<1}~mathsf d x+int_{z-1}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{1leq zleq 2}~mathsf d x end{align}$$






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          • really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:18










          • what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:26










          • how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:30










          • o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:31










          • this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:32













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          Just look to the support of the joint function, $(X_1,X_2)in{(x,y): 0leqslant xleqslant yleqslant 1}$. When $Z=X_1+X_2$ this means:




          • the pdf for $Z$ is supported over $0$ to $2$, the minimum and maximum values of the sum.


          • we can substitute $y:=z-x$ to obtain the support for the joint pdf for $(X_1,Z)$ .



            $$begin{split}(X_1,Z)&in{(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2 ~land~ 0leqslant xleqslant z-xleqslant 1}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~0leqslant xleqslant 1 ~land~ 1-zleqslant xleqslant z/2}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~max(0,1-z)leqslant xleqslantmin(1, z/2)}\&in {left{(x,z):raise{2ex}{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~\lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}right}} end{split}$$




          We partition the support for $Z$ at $1$ since $max(0,z-1)=begin{cases}0 &:& z<1\z-1&:&1leqslant zend{cases}$



          In this instance there is no concern over $min(1,z/2)$ since it is $z/2$ for all $z$ that are supported values of $Z$.



          Using the Jaccobian change of variables transformation, the joint pdf we require is:



          $$begin{align}f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)&=begin{Vmatrix}dfrac{partial[x,z-x]}{partial[x,z]}end{Vmatrix}f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\[1ex] &= f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\ &= 2cdotmathbf 1_{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}end{align}$$



          So applying the Law of Total Probability (Density) .



          $$begin{align}f_{Z}(z) &=int_Bbb R f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)mathsf d x\[2ex]& =int_Bbb R f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)~mathsf d x\[2ex]&= int_{0}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{0leq z<1}~mathsf d x+int_{z-1}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{1leq zleq 2}~mathsf d x end{align}$$






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          Just look to the support of the joint function, $(X_1,X_2)in{(x,y): 0leqslant xleqslant yleqslant 1}$. When $Z=X_1+X_2$ this means:




          • the pdf for $Z$ is supported over $0$ to $2$, the minimum and maximum values of the sum.


          • we can substitute $y:=z-x$ to obtain the support for the joint pdf for $(X_1,Z)$ .



            $$begin{split}(X_1,Z)&in{(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2 ~land~ 0leqslant xleqslant z-xleqslant 1}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~0leqslant xleqslant 1 ~land~ 1-zleqslant xleqslant z/2}\&in {(x,z):0leqslant zleqslant 2~land~max(0,1-z)leqslant xleqslantmin(1, z/2)}\&in {left{(x,z):raise{2ex}{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~\lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}right}} end{split}$$




          We partition the support for $Z$ at $1$ since $max(0,z-1)=begin{cases}0 &:& z<1\z-1&:&1leqslant zend{cases}$



          In this instance there is no concern over $min(1,z/2)$ since it is $z/2$ for all $z$ that are supported values of $Z$.



          Using the Jaccobian change of variables transformation, the joint pdf we require is:



          $$begin{align}f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)&=begin{Vmatrix}dfrac{partial[x,z-x]}{partial[x,z]}end{Vmatrix}f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\[1ex] &= f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)\ &= 2cdotmathbf 1_{[0leqslant z<1~land~0leqslant xleqslant z/2]~lor~[1leqslant zleqslant 2~land~z-1leqslant xleqslant z/2]}end{align}$$



          So applying the Law of Total Probability (Density) .



          $$begin{align}f_{Z}(z) &=int_Bbb R f_{X_1,Z}(x,z)mathsf d x\[2ex]& =int_Bbb R f_{X_1,X_2}(x,z-x)~mathsf d x\[2ex]&= int_{0}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{0leq z<1}~mathsf d x+int_{z-1}^{z/2}2cdotmathbf 1_{1leq zleq 2}~mathsf d x end{align}$$







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          • really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:18










          • what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:26










          • how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:30










          • o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:31










          • this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:32


















          • really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:18










          • what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:26










          • how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 9:30










          • o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:31










          • this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
            – rizwan niaz
            Nov 21 at 15:32
















          really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:18




          really same thing is available in books but im not able to understand sir, to post here actually meant u explain it briefly, u have written mathematics only , if u know all plz make a diagram or any dense explanation, thanks so much for taking interest
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:18












          what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:26




          what is the rule to break limits , how u have changed them ? why u written z-x why you consider just (X1,z) why not (X2,z) what is logic
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:26












          how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:30




          how did u made fist step 0<z<2 tell the logic plz? then explain each step sir plz
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 9:30












          o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 15:31




          o<x<1 ^ 1<1-z<x<z|2, how u made this ?? im confused in setup limits ,... above 2 points that u noted in theory i well understood them , reaming each step need to explain sir
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 15:31












          this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 15:32




          this step is clear 0<z<2 and 0<x<z-x<1,in second step what is going on
          – rizwan niaz
          Nov 21 at 15:32



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