Interpretation of a sample space problem











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$A, B$ and $C$ take turns in flipping a coin. The first one to get a head wins. The sample space of this experiment is as given:



$S = {1, 01, 001, 0001, dots ,\0000}$



Then how can I interpret the sample space? I cannot understand that $0000$ case in the sample space. Does it mean that none wins? If it means that, then should not it be excluded from $S$ and included in $S^c$?



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  • The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 6:19










  • yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 9:20










  • If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 12:41










  • Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 13:18















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$A, B$ and $C$ take turns in flipping a coin. The first one to get a head wins. The sample space of this experiment is as given:



$S = {1, 01, 001, 0001, dots ,\0000}$



Then how can I interpret the sample space? I cannot understand that $0000$ case in the sample space. Does it mean that none wins? If it means that, then should not it be excluded from $S$ and included in $S^c$?



Please help me by explaining this topic. Thanks in advance.










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  • The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 6:19










  • yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 9:20










  • If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 12:41










  • Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 13:18













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$A, B$ and $C$ take turns in flipping a coin. The first one to get a head wins. The sample space of this experiment is as given:



$S = {1, 01, 001, 0001, dots ,\0000}$



Then how can I interpret the sample space? I cannot understand that $0000$ case in the sample space. Does it mean that none wins? If it means that, then should not it be excluded from $S$ and included in $S^c$?



Please help me by explaining this topic. Thanks in advance.










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$A, B$ and $C$ take turns in flipping a coin. The first one to get a head wins. The sample space of this experiment is as given:



$S = {1, 01, 001, 0001, dots ,\0000}$



Then how can I interpret the sample space? I cannot understand that $0000$ case in the sample space. Does it mean that none wins? If it means that, then should not it be excluded from $S$ and included in $S^c$?



Please help me by explaining this topic. Thanks in advance.







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  • The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 6:19










  • yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 9:20










  • If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 12:41










  • Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 13:18


















  • The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 6:19










  • yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 9:20










  • If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
    – David K
    Nov 21 at 12:41










  • Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
    – user587389
    Nov 21 at 13:18
















The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
– David K
Nov 21 at 6:19




The last one doesn't make sense as written: four tails and then stop. Surely they are supposed to keep going. Was it actually supposed to be "$0000ldots$", that is, an infinite sequence of all tails?
– David K
Nov 21 at 6:19












yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
– user587389
Nov 21 at 9:20




yes, it means an infinite sequence of all tails. But why is it included in S? I can't get it.
– user587389
Nov 21 at 9:20












If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
– David K
Nov 21 at 12:41




If this case weren't included, someone else might complain that the author had not considered what happens if the players only get tails. Answer: they just keep flipping the coin forever. But since we assign zero probability to that event, it has no impact on the calculations.
– David K
Nov 21 at 12:41












Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
– user587389
Nov 21 at 13:18




Oh, Thanks Sir. Now I get it.
– user587389
Nov 21 at 13:18










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The sample space is indeed given by
$$S=bigl{0^k 1bigm| kin{mathbb N}_{geq0}bigr} cup{000ldots} .$$
Fate selects a point $omegain S$. The points $omega=0^k1$ have a probability $p_k>0$, whereas the special point $omega=000ldots$ has probability $p_infty=0$.






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    The sample space is indeed given by
    $$S=bigl{0^k 1bigm| kin{mathbb N}_{geq0}bigr} cup{000ldots} .$$
    Fate selects a point $omegain S$. The points $omega=0^k1$ have a probability $p_k>0$, whereas the special point $omega=000ldots$ has probability $p_infty=0$.






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      The sample space is indeed given by
      $$S=bigl{0^k 1bigm| kin{mathbb N}_{geq0}bigr} cup{000ldots} .$$
      Fate selects a point $omegain S$. The points $omega=0^k1$ have a probability $p_k>0$, whereas the special point $omega=000ldots$ has probability $p_infty=0$.






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        The sample space is indeed given by
        $$S=bigl{0^k 1bigm| kin{mathbb N}_{geq0}bigr} cup{000ldots} .$$
        Fate selects a point $omegain S$. The points $omega=0^k1$ have a probability $p_k>0$, whereas the special point $omega=000ldots$ has probability $p_infty=0$.






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        The sample space is indeed given by
        $$S=bigl{0^k 1bigm| kin{mathbb N}_{geq0}bigr} cup{000ldots} .$$
        Fate selects a point $omegain S$. The points $omega=0^k1$ have a probability $p_k>0$, whereas the special point $omega=000ldots$ has probability $p_infty=0$.







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