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I doubted whether I can say cyclobutanal or not. Im confused and didn't found my answer anywhere
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I doubted whether I can say cyclobutanal or not. Im confused and didn't found my answer anywhere
organic-chemistry nomenclature
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 11:24
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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Related: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19868/…
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I doubted whether I can say cyclobutanal or not. Im confused and didn't found my answer anywhere
organic-chemistry nomenclature
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I doubted whether I can say cyclobutanal or not. Im confused and didn't found my answer anywhere
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 11:24
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edited Dec 3 '18 at 15:16
mykhal
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edited Dec 3 '18 at 15:16
mykhal
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edited Dec 3 '18 at 15:16
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 11:24
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 11:24
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 11:24
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closed as unclear what you're asking by Tyberius, A.K., Todd Minehardt, Jon Custer, a-cyclohexane-molecule Dec 3 '18 at 21:06
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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Related: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19868/…
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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Related: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19868/…
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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Related: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19868/…
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Let's have correct names for related alcohols butanol (e.g. butan-1-ol) and cyclobutanol. Here the -ol suffix means $ce{-OH}$ group attached to the carbon atom.
In butanal ($ce{CH3CH2CH2CHO}$), suffix -al means not just $ce{=O}$ group (oxo group), but entire $ce{-CHO}$ which already contains carbon, which is included in the counting and numbering. (No locant is needed, because the aldehyde group can be only at the terminal carbon, 1.) If you want to name C-1 to C-4 cyclized butanal, its correct name is cyclobutanone.
Now, it's impossible for cyclic compound to contain aldehyde group in the cycle. For $ce{-CHO}$ group attached (not included) to the parent cycle, suffix -carbaldehyde is used, therefore names “cyclobutanal” or “cyclobutan-1-al” are wrong, correct is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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It's cyclobutanecarboxaldehyde (or cyclobutanecarbaldehyde). I found for you nice little picture of this guy.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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Let's have correct names for related alcohols butanol (e.g. butan-1-ol) and cyclobutanol. Here the -ol suffix means $ce{-OH}$ group attached to the carbon atom.
In butanal ($ce{CH3CH2CH2CHO}$), suffix -al means not just $ce{=O}$ group (oxo group), but entire $ce{-CHO}$ which already contains carbon, which is included in the counting and numbering. (No locant is needed, because the aldehyde group can be only at the terminal carbon, 1.) If you want to name C-1 to C-4 cyclized butanal, its correct name is cyclobutanone.
Now, it's impossible for cyclic compound to contain aldehyde group in the cycle. For $ce{-CHO}$ group attached (not included) to the parent cycle, suffix -carbaldehyde is used, therefore names “cyclobutanal” or “cyclobutan-1-al” are wrong, correct is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
mykhalmykhal
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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Let's have correct names for related alcohols butanol (e.g. butan-1-ol) and cyclobutanol. Here the -ol suffix means $ce{-OH}$ group attached to the carbon atom.
In butanal ($ce{CH3CH2CH2CHO}$), suffix -al means not just $ce{=O}$ group (oxo group), but entire $ce{-CHO}$ which already contains carbon, which is included in the counting and numbering. (No locant is needed, because the aldehyde group can be only at the terminal carbon, 1.) If you want to name C-1 to C-4 cyclized butanal, its correct name is cyclobutanone.
Now, it's impossible for cyclic compound to contain aldehyde group in the cycle. For $ce{-CHO}$ group attached (not included) to the parent cycle, suffix -carbaldehyde is used, therefore names “cyclobutanal” or “cyclobutan-1-al” are wrong, correct is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
mykhalmykhal
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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Let's have correct names for related alcohols butanol (e.g. butan-1-ol) and cyclobutanol. Here the -ol suffix means $ce{-OH}$ group attached to the carbon atom.
In butanal ($ce{CH3CH2CH2CHO}$), suffix -al means not just $ce{=O}$ group (oxo group), but entire $ce{-CHO}$ which already contains carbon, which is included in the counting and numbering. (No locant is needed, because the aldehyde group can be only at the terminal carbon, 1.) If you want to name C-1 to C-4 cyclized butanal, its correct name is cyclobutanone.
Now, it's impossible for cyclic compound to contain aldehyde group in the cycle. For $ce{-CHO}$ group attached (not included) to the parent cycle, suffix -carbaldehyde is used, therefore names “cyclobutanal” or “cyclobutan-1-al” are wrong, correct is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
mykhalmykhal
4,17412160
$endgroup$
Let's have correct names for related alcohols butanol (e.g. butan-1-ol) and cyclobutanol. Here the -ol suffix means $ce{-OH}$ group attached to the carbon atom.
In butanal ($ce{CH3CH2CH2CHO}$), suffix -al means not just $ce{=O}$ group (oxo group), but entire $ce{-CHO}$ which already contains carbon, which is included in the counting and numbering. (No locant is needed, because the aldehyde group can be only at the terminal carbon, 1.) If you want to name C-1 to C-4 cyclized butanal, its correct name is cyclobutanone.
Now, it's impossible for cyclic compound to contain aldehyde group in the cycle. For $ce{-CHO}$ group attached (not included) to the parent cycle, suffix -carbaldehyde is used, therefore names “cyclobutanal” or “cyclobutan-1-al” are wrong, correct is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
mykhalmykhal
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answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
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answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
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answered Dec 3 '18 at 16:01
mykhalmykhal
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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Thankyou mykhal, I've cleared my doubt in nomenclature in both the classroom and here also with this wonderful explanation, thanks alot. Well, is there any more exceptions in naming like this in aldehydes . ?
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 7 '18 at 11:55
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It's cyclobutanecarboxaldehyde (or cyclobutanecarbaldehyde). I found for you nice little picture of this guy.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
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It's cyclobutanecarboxaldehyde (or cyclobutanecarbaldehyde). I found for you nice little picture of this guy.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
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1
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
1
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
add a comment |
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It's cyclobutanecarboxaldehyde (or cyclobutanecarbaldehyde). I found for you nice little picture of this guy.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
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It's cyclobutanecarboxaldehyde (or cyclobutanecarbaldehyde). I found for you nice little picture of this guy.
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
answered Dec 3 '18 at 11:43
Kelly ShepphardKelly Shepphard
63212
63212
1
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
1
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
add a comment |
1
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
1
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
$endgroup$
– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
1
1
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Correct name is cyclobutanecarbaldehyde. There's an instance of "…carboxaldehyde" name in latest IUPAC nomenclature book, but it's a mistake fixed in the ERRATA.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 13:49
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
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Well, here's my real question guys, can't I write it like cyclobutan-1-al. It seems all good with keeping rules in mind , still my teacher got it wrong.
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– Vishal Kumar
Dec 3 '18 at 13:53
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
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@VishalKumar No, according to the rules, this name does not make sense.
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:14
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There simply cannot be an aldehyde functional group inside a cyclobutane ring.
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– Martin - マーチン♦
Dec 3 '18 at 14:19
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Related: chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19868/…
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– mykhal
Dec 3 '18 at 15:07