Proof of a formula involving Euler's totient function: $varphi (mn) = varphi (m) varphi (n) cdot...
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The third formula on the wikipedia page for the Totient function states that $$varphi (mn) = varphi (m) varphi (n) cdot dfrac{d}{varphi (d)} $$
where $d = gcd(m,n)$.
How is this claim justified?
Would we have to use the Chinese Remainder Theorem, as they suggest for proving that $varphi$ is multiplicative?
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The third formula on the wikipedia page for the Totient function states that $$varphi (mn) = varphi (m) varphi (n) cdot dfrac{d}{varphi (d)} $$
where $d = gcd(m,n)$.
How is this claim justified?
Would we have to use the Chinese Remainder Theorem, as they suggest for proving that $varphi$ is multiplicative?
elementary-number-theory totient-function
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
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– Joel Cohen
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
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– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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The third formula on the wikipedia page for the Totient function states that $$varphi (mn) = varphi (m) varphi (n) cdot dfrac{d}{varphi (d)} $$
where $d = gcd(m,n)$.
How is this claim justified?
Would we have to use the Chinese Remainder Theorem, as they suggest for proving that $varphi$ is multiplicative?
elementary-number-theory totient-function
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The third formula on the wikipedia page for the Totient function states that $$varphi (mn) = varphi (m) varphi (n) cdot dfrac{d}{varphi (d)} $$
where $d = gcd(m,n)$.
How is this claim justified?
Would we have to use the Chinese Remainder Theorem, as they suggest for proving that $varphi$ is multiplicative?
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
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– Joel Cohen
Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
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– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
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– Joel Cohen
Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
1
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
$endgroup$
– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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– lhf
Mar 14 '12 at 12:07
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
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– Joel Cohen
Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
$endgroup$
– Joel Cohen
Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
$endgroup$
– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
$endgroup$
– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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– lhf
Mar 14 '12 at 12:07
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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You can write $varphi(n) = n prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)$.
Using this identity, we have
$$
varphi(mn)
= mn prod_{p mid mn} left( 1 - frac 1p right)
= mn frac{prod_{p mid m} left( 1 - frac 1p right) prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}{prod_{p mid d} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}
= varphi(m)varphi(n) frac{d}{varphi(d)}
$$
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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Hint $ $ A multiplicative function $rm:f(n):$ satisfies said identity if for all primes $rm:p:$
$$rm jle k Rightarrow f(p^{j+k}) = frac{f(p^j): f(p^k): p^j}{f(p^j)} = p^j f(p^k)$$
Indeed we have $rm phi(p^{j+k}) = p^{j+k}-p^{j+k-1} = p^j (p^k-p^{k-1}) = p^j phi(p^k)$
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Thanks, Bill. I'll try to wrap my head around that. It seems useful.
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You can write $varphi(n) = n prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)$.
Using this identity, we have
$$
varphi(mn)
= mn prod_{p mid mn} left( 1 - frac 1p right)
= mn frac{prod_{p mid m} left( 1 - frac 1p right) prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}{prod_{p mid d} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}
= varphi(m)varphi(n) frac{d}{varphi(d)}
$$
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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– G. Bach
Apr 25 '14 at 19:55
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You can write $varphi(n) = n prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)$.
Using this identity, we have
$$
varphi(mn)
= mn prod_{p mid mn} left( 1 - frac 1p right)
= mn frac{prod_{p mid m} left( 1 - frac 1p right) prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}{prod_{p mid d} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}
= varphi(m)varphi(n) frac{d}{varphi(d)}
$$
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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– G. Bach
Apr 25 '14 at 19:55
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can write $varphi(n) = n prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)$.
Using this identity, we have
$$
varphi(mn)
= mn prod_{p mid mn} left( 1 - frac 1p right)
= mn frac{prod_{p mid m} left( 1 - frac 1p right) prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}{prod_{p mid d} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}
= varphi(m)varphi(n) frac{d}{varphi(d)}
$$
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You can write $varphi(n) = n prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)$.
Using this identity, we have
$$
varphi(mn)
= mn prod_{p mid mn} left( 1 - frac 1p right)
= mn frac{prod_{p mid m} left( 1 - frac 1p right) prod_{p mid n} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}{prod_{p mid d} left( 1 - frac 1p right)}
= varphi(m)varphi(n) frac{d}{varphi(d)}
$$
answered Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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This should probably be restricted to prime $p$.
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Hint $ $ A multiplicative function $rm:f(n):$ satisfies said identity if for all primes $rm:p:$
$$rm jle k Rightarrow f(p^{j+k}) = frac{f(p^j): f(p^k): p^j}{f(p^j)} = p^j f(p^k)$$
Indeed we have $rm phi(p^{j+k}) = p^{j+k}-p^{j+k-1} = p^j (p^k-p^{k-1}) = p^j phi(p^k)$
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Thanks, Bill. I'll try to wrap my head around that. It seems useful.
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Hint $ $ A multiplicative function $rm:f(n):$ satisfies said identity if for all primes $rm:p:$
$$rm jle k Rightarrow f(p^{j+k}) = frac{f(p^j): f(p^k): p^j}{f(p^j)} = p^j f(p^k)$$
Indeed we have $rm phi(p^{j+k}) = p^{j+k}-p^{j+k-1} = p^j (p^k-p^{k-1}) = p^j phi(p^k)$
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Thanks, Bill. I'll try to wrap my head around that. It seems useful.
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– The Chaz 2.0
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Hint $ $ A multiplicative function $rm:f(n):$ satisfies said identity if for all primes $rm:p:$
$$rm jle k Rightarrow f(p^{j+k}) = frac{f(p^j): f(p^k): p^j}{f(p^j)} = p^j f(p^k)$$
Indeed we have $rm phi(p^{j+k}) = p^{j+k}-p^{j+k-1} = p^j (p^k-p^{k-1}) = p^j phi(p^k)$
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Hint $ $ A multiplicative function $rm:f(n):$ satisfies said identity if for all primes $rm:p:$
$$rm jle k Rightarrow f(p^{j+k}) = frac{f(p^j): f(p^k): p^j}{f(p^j)} = p^j f(p^k)$$
Indeed we have $rm phi(p^{j+k}) = p^{j+k}-p^{j+k-1} = p^j (p^k-p^{k-1}) = p^j phi(p^k)$
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There might be a direct proof, but of course if you show that $varphi$ is multiplicative (using the Chinese Remainder Theorem) and that $varphi(p^a) = p^a - p^{a-1}$, then you get your result.
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– Joel Cohen
Feb 29 '12 at 15:18
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It'd be nice to relate this formula with the natural mapping $U_{mn}to U_m times U_n$ by proving that the kernel has size $d$ and the image has index $phi(d)$.
$endgroup$
– lhf
Mar 13 '12 at 2:22
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See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/119911/…. (Thanks @Dane!)
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