Invariant subspace of a representation of a Lie algebra












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This may be silly. Let $mathfrak{g}$ be an Lie algebra, with $V$ a nonzero representation.
Denote the invariant subspace $V^{mathfrak{g}}={vin V|x.v=0,forall xin mathfrak{g}}$.



Question:Is $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ a subrepresentation of $V$? It seems to satisfy all axioms to become a subrepresentation. But I just wonder why the textbook is vague about it (namely, Lorentz's book) and calling it a subspace.










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    The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
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    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 6 '18 at 13:40












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    @DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
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    – Weimin Jiang
    Dec 6 '18 at 17:04












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    Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
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    – Artimis Fowl
    Dec 7 '18 at 8:11










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    It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
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    – hellHound
    Dec 10 '18 at 19:50


















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$begingroup$


This may be silly. Let $mathfrak{g}$ be an Lie algebra, with $V$ a nonzero representation.
Denote the invariant subspace $V^{mathfrak{g}}={vin V|x.v=0,forall xin mathfrak{g}}$.



Question:Is $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ a subrepresentation of $V$? It seems to satisfy all axioms to become a subrepresentation. But I just wonder why the textbook is vague about it (namely, Lorentz's book) and calling it a subspace.










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  • $begingroup$
    The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
    $endgroup$
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 6 '18 at 13:40












  • $begingroup$
    @DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
    $endgroup$
    – Weimin Jiang
    Dec 6 '18 at 17:04












  • $begingroup$
    Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
    $endgroup$
    – Artimis Fowl
    Dec 7 '18 at 8:11










  • $begingroup$
    It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
    $endgroup$
    – hellHound
    Dec 10 '18 at 19:50
















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$begingroup$


This may be silly. Let $mathfrak{g}$ be an Lie algebra, with $V$ a nonzero representation.
Denote the invariant subspace $V^{mathfrak{g}}={vin V|x.v=0,forall xin mathfrak{g}}$.



Question:Is $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ a subrepresentation of $V$? It seems to satisfy all axioms to become a subrepresentation. But I just wonder why the textbook is vague about it (namely, Lorentz's book) and calling it a subspace.










share|cite|improve this question









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This may be silly. Let $mathfrak{g}$ be an Lie algebra, with $V$ a nonzero representation.
Denote the invariant subspace $V^{mathfrak{g}}={vin V|x.v=0,forall xin mathfrak{g}}$.



Question:Is $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ a subrepresentation of $V$? It seems to satisfy all axioms to become a subrepresentation. But I just wonder why the textbook is vague about it (namely, Lorentz's book) and calling it a subspace.







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  • $begingroup$
    The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
    $endgroup$
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 6 '18 at 13:40












  • $begingroup$
    @DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
    $endgroup$
    – Weimin Jiang
    Dec 6 '18 at 17:04












  • $begingroup$
    Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
    $endgroup$
    – Artimis Fowl
    Dec 7 '18 at 8:11










  • $begingroup$
    It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
    $endgroup$
    – hellHound
    Dec 10 '18 at 19:50




















  • $begingroup$
    The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
    $endgroup$
    – Dietrich Burde
    Dec 6 '18 at 13:40












  • $begingroup$
    @DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
    $endgroup$
    – Weimin Jiang
    Dec 6 '18 at 17:04












  • $begingroup$
    Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
    $endgroup$
    – Artimis Fowl
    Dec 7 '18 at 8:11










  • $begingroup$
    It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
    $endgroup$
    – hellHound
    Dec 10 '18 at 19:50


















$begingroup$
The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
$endgroup$
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 6 '18 at 13:40






$begingroup$
The textbook says that it is a subspace, which is true. But it is also invariant, yes. Did you check any another book so far?
$endgroup$
– Dietrich Burde
Dec 6 '18 at 13:40














$begingroup$
@DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
$endgroup$
– Weimin Jiang
Dec 6 '18 at 17:04






$begingroup$
@DietrichBurde Yes, I checked Hall's Book(GTM 222), which also just mentions it as a subspace. I asked my professor about it, he/she was also vague about it, say that $V^{mathfrak{g}}$ already "use up" all the $mathfrak{g}$ actions, which makes me confused. That's why I ask here. Thanks for the response.
$endgroup$
– Weimin Jiang
Dec 6 '18 at 17:04














$begingroup$
Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
$endgroup$
– Artimis Fowl
Dec 7 '18 at 8:11




$begingroup$
Anything that satisfies the axioms of X is an X. But we don't write out all the things something is every time we talk about it.
$endgroup$
– Artimis Fowl
Dec 7 '18 at 8:11












$begingroup$
It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
$endgroup$
– hellHound
Dec 10 '18 at 19:50






$begingroup$
It is a subrepresentation but not interesting in the sense that $ mathfrak{g} $ acts trivially on $ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ and this is what your professor perhaps meant to say - "$ V^{mathfrak{g}} $ uses up all the $ mathfrak{g} $-actions". So it is as good as being a subspace only.
$endgroup$
– hellHound
Dec 10 '18 at 19:50












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