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I am having some problems to find the solution required in the next exercise:




$x^2-ax+b=0$ has real and not equal solutions and that b is a positive constant that such that $b sim U(i,j)$ for certain i,j.



Find the $mathbb{E}[X], ,Var[X]$ of the solutions.






What I have so far:



From the Quadratic Formula, it is known that:



And since these are real solutions,



$implies a^2>4b$



$implies frac{a^2}{4}>b$





¿how do I use $b sim U(i,j)$?










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I am having some problems to find the solution required in the next exercise:




$x^2-ax+b=0$ has real and not equal solutions and that b is a positive constant that such that $b sim U(i,j)$ for certain i,j.



Find the $mathbb{E}[X], ,Var[X]$ of the solutions.






What I have so far:



From the Quadratic Formula, it is known that:



And since these are real solutions,



$implies a^2>4b$



$implies frac{a^2}{4}>b$





¿how do I use $b sim U(i,j)$?










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I am having some problems to find the solution required in the next exercise:




$x^2-ax+b=0$ has real and not equal solutions and that b is a positive constant that such that $b sim U(i,j)$ for certain i,j.



Find the $mathbb{E}[X], ,Var[X]$ of the solutions.






What I have so far:



From the Quadratic Formula, it is known that:



And since these are real solutions,



$implies a^2>4b$



$implies frac{a^2}{4}>b$





¿how do I use $b sim U(i,j)$?










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I am having some problems to find the solution required in the next exercise:




$x^2-ax+b=0$ has real and not equal solutions and that b is a positive constant that such that $b sim U(i,j)$ for certain i,j.



Find the $mathbb{E}[X], ,Var[X]$ of the solutions.






What I have so far:



From the Quadratic Formula, it is known that:



And since these are real solutions,



$implies a^2>4b$



$implies frac{a^2}{4}>b$





¿how do I use $b sim U(i,j)$?







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Well, simply by using the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then $mathbb{E}(b) =4/a^2int_{0}^{a^2/2}b,db =frac{a^2/4}{2} = a^2/8$.



Then, for $x_1$ for example, it is :



$$mathbb{E}(x_1) = mathbb{E}left(frac{a + sqrt{a^2-4b}}{2}right) = frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(a+sqrt{a^2-4b}right)$$



But, $a$ is a constant (not following any distributions, as far as one can say per the problem hypothesis), thus $mathbb{E}(a) = a$ and so :



$$mathbb{E}(x_1) = frac{1}{2}a + frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(sqrt{a^2-4b}right) $$



Can you finish the calculation now ?



For the calculation of variance, again use the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then :



$$V(b) = frac{1}{12}left(frac{a^2}{4}-0right)^2= frac{a^4}{12cdot 16}$$



Be careful now, since if $a$ is a constant, then $V(a) = a^2$.






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    Well, simply by using the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then $mathbb{E}(b) =4/a^2int_{0}^{a^2/2}b,db =frac{a^2/4}{2} = a^2/8$.



    Then, for $x_1$ for example, it is :



    $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = mathbb{E}left(frac{a + sqrt{a^2-4b}}{2}right) = frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(a+sqrt{a^2-4b}right)$$



    But, $a$ is a constant (not following any distributions, as far as one can say per the problem hypothesis), thus $mathbb{E}(a) = a$ and so :



    $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = frac{1}{2}a + frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(sqrt{a^2-4b}right) $$



    Can you finish the calculation now ?



    For the calculation of variance, again use the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then :



    $$V(b) = frac{1}{12}left(frac{a^2}{4}-0right)^2= frac{a^4}{12cdot 16}$$



    Be careful now, since if $a$ is a constant, then $V(a) = a^2$.






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      Well, simply by using the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then $mathbb{E}(b) =4/a^2int_{0}^{a^2/2}b,db =frac{a^2/4}{2} = a^2/8$.



      Then, for $x_1$ for example, it is :



      $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = mathbb{E}left(frac{a + sqrt{a^2-4b}}{2}right) = frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(a+sqrt{a^2-4b}right)$$



      But, $a$ is a constant (not following any distributions, as far as one can say per the problem hypothesis), thus $mathbb{E}(a) = a$ and so :



      $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = frac{1}{2}a + frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(sqrt{a^2-4b}right) $$



      Can you finish the calculation now ?



      For the calculation of variance, again use the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then :



      $$V(b) = frac{1}{12}left(frac{a^2}{4}-0right)^2= frac{a^4}{12cdot 16}$$



      Be careful now, since if $a$ is a constant, then $V(a) = a^2$.






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        Well, simply by using the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then $mathbb{E}(b) =4/a^2int_{0}^{a^2/2}b,db =frac{a^2/4}{2} = a^2/8$.



        Then, for $x_1$ for example, it is :



        $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = mathbb{E}left(frac{a + sqrt{a^2-4b}}{2}right) = frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(a+sqrt{a^2-4b}right)$$



        But, $a$ is a constant (not following any distributions, as far as one can say per the problem hypothesis), thus $mathbb{E}(a) = a$ and so :



        $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = frac{1}{2}a + frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(sqrt{a^2-4b}right) $$



        Can you finish the calculation now ?



        For the calculation of variance, again use the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then :



        $$V(b) = frac{1}{12}left(frac{a^2}{4}-0right)^2= frac{a^4}{12cdot 16}$$



        Be careful now, since if $a$ is a constant, then $V(a) = a^2$.






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        Well, simply by using the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then $mathbb{E}(b) =4/a^2int_{0}^{a^2/2}b,db =frac{a^2/4}{2} = a^2/8$.



        Then, for $x_1$ for example, it is :



        $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = mathbb{E}left(frac{a + sqrt{a^2-4b}}{2}right) = frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(a+sqrt{a^2-4b}right)$$



        But, $a$ is a constant (not following any distributions, as far as one can say per the problem hypothesis), thus $mathbb{E}(a) = a$ and so :



        $$mathbb{E}(x_1) = frac{1}{2}a + frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(sqrt{a^2-4b}right) $$



        Can you finish the calculation now ?



        For the calculation of variance, again use the fact that since $b sim U(0,a^2/4)$ then :



        $$V(b) = frac{1}{12}left(frac{a^2}{4}-0right)^2= frac{a^4}{12cdot 16}$$



        Be careful now, since if $a$ is a constant, then $V(a) = a^2$.







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