Is $F(x)=frac{x}{x+1}$ for $xin [0,1)$, $F(1)=frac{1}{2}$ continuous?
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How is this function continuous? The book before me states that it's continuous.
$$
F(x)=begin{cases} dfrac{x}{x+1},&;;xin [0,1),\\ ;; dfrac{1}{2},&;;x=1end{cases}
$$
I might be wrong
Let $epsilon_0=dfrac{1}{12},$ $x=dfrac{1}{2}$ and $y=1$, then begin{align}left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|dfrac{1}{3}-dfrac{1}{2}right|\&=dfrac{1}{6}>dfrac{1}{12}=epsilon_0end{align}
Then, it's not continuous. I know we can use Pasting lemma but $[0,1)cap 1=phi.$
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How is this function continuous? The book before me states that it's continuous.
$$
F(x)=begin{cases} dfrac{x}{x+1},&;;xin [0,1),\\ ;; dfrac{1}{2},&;;x=1end{cases}
$$
I might be wrong
Let $epsilon_0=dfrac{1}{12},$ $x=dfrac{1}{2}$ and $y=1$, then begin{align}left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|dfrac{1}{3}-dfrac{1}{2}right|\&=dfrac{1}{6}>dfrac{1}{12}=epsilon_0end{align}
Then, it's not continuous. I know we can use Pasting lemma but $[0,1)cap 1=phi.$
continuity epsilon-delta
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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– Jakobian
Dec 28 '18 at 15:45
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
Dec 28 '18 at 15:49
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How is this function continuous? The book before me states that it's continuous.
$$
F(x)=begin{cases} dfrac{x}{x+1},&;;xin [0,1),\\ ;; dfrac{1}{2},&;;x=1end{cases}
$$
I might be wrong
Let $epsilon_0=dfrac{1}{12},$ $x=dfrac{1}{2}$ and $y=1$, then begin{align}left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|dfrac{1}{3}-dfrac{1}{2}right|\&=dfrac{1}{6}>dfrac{1}{12}=epsilon_0end{align}
Then, it's not continuous. I know we can use Pasting lemma but $[0,1)cap 1=phi.$
continuity epsilon-delta
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How is this function continuous? The book before me states that it's continuous.
$$
F(x)=begin{cases} dfrac{x}{x+1},&;;xin [0,1),\\ ;; dfrac{1}{2},&;;x=1end{cases}
$$
I might be wrong
Let $epsilon_0=dfrac{1}{12},$ $x=dfrac{1}{2}$ and $y=1$, then begin{align}left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|Fleft(dfrac{1}{2}right)-Fleft(1right)right|\&=left|dfrac{1}{3}-dfrac{1}{2}right|\&=dfrac{1}{6}>dfrac{1}{12}=epsilon_0end{align}
Then, it's not continuous. I know we can use Pasting lemma but $[0,1)cap 1=phi.$
continuity epsilon-delta
continuity epsilon-delta
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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– Jakobian
Dec 28 '18 at 15:45
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
Dec 28 '18 at 15:49
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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– Jakobian
Dec 28 '18 at 15:45
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
Dec 28 '18 at 15:49
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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– Jakobian
Dec 28 '18 at 15:45
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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– Jakobian
Dec 28 '18 at 15:45
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
Dec 28 '18 at 15:49
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
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Define$$begin{array}{rccc}Gcolon&[0,1]&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&dfrac x{x+1}.end{array}$$Then $F=G$ and I suppose that it is clear to you that $G$ is continuous. Therefore, $F$ is continuous too.
On the other hand, there is no way of determining whther a function $varphicolon[0,1]longrightarrowmathbb R$ is continuous at $1$ just by using the values of $varphi$ at $1$ and at $frac12$, which is what you tried to do.
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I like to think about it as a game between you and an adversary. You are tying to catch your adversary off guard by demanding that they produce a $delta>0$ for any $epsilon>0$ such that $0<|x-a|<delta$ implies that $|f(x)-f(a)|<epsilon$.
The definition of being continuous does not let you chose your $delta$; that role is reserved for your adversary.
So when you chose $epsilon_0=1/12$, you do not then also get to pick the $x$ and $y$ values. That is for the adversary to decide.
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Define$$begin{array}{rccc}Gcolon&[0,1]&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&dfrac x{x+1}.end{array}$$Then $F=G$ and I suppose that it is clear to you that $G$ is continuous. Therefore, $F$ is continuous too.
On the other hand, there is no way of determining whther a function $varphicolon[0,1]longrightarrowmathbb R$ is continuous at $1$ just by using the values of $varphi$ at $1$ and at $frac12$, which is what you tried to do.
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Define$$begin{array}{rccc}Gcolon&[0,1]&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&dfrac x{x+1}.end{array}$$Then $F=G$ and I suppose that it is clear to you that $G$ is continuous. Therefore, $F$ is continuous too.
On the other hand, there is no way of determining whther a function $varphicolon[0,1]longrightarrowmathbb R$ is continuous at $1$ just by using the values of $varphi$ at $1$ and at $frac12$, which is what you tried to do.
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Define$$begin{array}{rccc}Gcolon&[0,1]&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&dfrac x{x+1}.end{array}$$Then $F=G$ and I suppose that it is clear to you that $G$ is continuous. Therefore, $F$ is continuous too.
On the other hand, there is no way of determining whther a function $varphicolon[0,1]longrightarrowmathbb R$ is continuous at $1$ just by using the values of $varphi$ at $1$ and at $frac12$, which is what you tried to do.
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Define$$begin{array}{rccc}Gcolon&[0,1]&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&dfrac x{x+1}.end{array}$$Then $F=G$ and I suppose that it is clear to you that $G$ is continuous. Therefore, $F$ is continuous too.
On the other hand, there is no way of determining whther a function $varphicolon[0,1]longrightarrowmathbb R$ is continuous at $1$ just by using the values of $varphi$ at $1$ and at $frac12$, which is what you tried to do.
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I like to think about it as a game between you and an adversary. You are tying to catch your adversary off guard by demanding that they produce a $delta>0$ for any $epsilon>0$ such that $0<|x-a|<delta$ implies that $|f(x)-f(a)|<epsilon$.
The definition of being continuous does not let you chose your $delta$; that role is reserved for your adversary.
So when you chose $epsilon_0=1/12$, you do not then also get to pick the $x$ and $y$ values. That is for the adversary to decide.
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I like to think about it as a game between you and an adversary. You are tying to catch your adversary off guard by demanding that they produce a $delta>0$ for any $epsilon>0$ such that $0<|x-a|<delta$ implies that $|f(x)-f(a)|<epsilon$.
The definition of being continuous does not let you chose your $delta$; that role is reserved for your adversary.
So when you chose $epsilon_0=1/12$, you do not then also get to pick the $x$ and $y$ values. That is for the adversary to decide.
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I like to think about it as a game between you and an adversary. You are tying to catch your adversary off guard by demanding that they produce a $delta>0$ for any $epsilon>0$ such that $0<|x-a|<delta$ implies that $|f(x)-f(a)|<epsilon$.
The definition of being continuous does not let you chose your $delta$; that role is reserved for your adversary.
So when you chose $epsilon_0=1/12$, you do not then also get to pick the $x$ and $y$ values. That is for the adversary to decide.
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I like to think about it as a game between you and an adversary. You are tying to catch your adversary off guard by demanding that they produce a $delta>0$ for any $epsilon>0$ such that $0<|x-a|<delta$ implies that $|f(x)-f(a)|<epsilon$.
The definition of being continuous does not let you chose your $delta$; that role is reserved for your adversary.
So when you chose $epsilon_0=1/12$, you do not then also get to pick the $x$ and $y$ values. That is for the adversary to decide.
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Why is $frac{x}{x+1}$ continuous on $[0, 1]$? Because $x$ is continuous, and $x+1$ is continuous and non-zero. There's no real need to split this function in cases
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You are claiming that the function is discontinuous... at what point ? By your reasoning, it would seem that the function $f(x)=x$ should also be discontinuous...
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– leonbloy
Dec 28 '18 at 15:46
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By your reasoning there are no continuous functions except constants. Look at the definition - it does not require that $|F(1/2)-F(1)|<epsilon$.
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– David C. Ullrich
Dec 28 '18 at 15:49