Show that $tau_1tau_2$ of order 2 or 3, given that $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are distinct transpositions.












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Show that $tau_1tau_2$ of order $2$ or $3$, given that $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are distinct transpositions.




I know that every cycle can be factored as a product of transpositions. But I'm not sure how to prove the order of $2$ or $3$.










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    Show that $tau_1tau_2$ of order $2$ or $3$, given that $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are distinct transpositions.




    I know that every cycle can be factored as a product of transpositions. But I'm not sure how to prove the order of $2$ or $3$.










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      Show that $tau_1tau_2$ of order $2$ or $3$, given that $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are distinct transpositions.




      I know that every cycle can be factored as a product of transpositions. But I'm not sure how to prove the order of $2$ or $3$.










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      Show that $tau_1tau_2$ of order $2$ or $3$, given that $tau_1$ and $tau_2$ are distinct transpositions.




      I know that every cycle can be factored as a product of transpositions. But I'm not sure how to prove the order of $2$ or $3$.







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          Write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(r,s)$.



          We have two cases:




          1. ${a,b}cap{r,s} = emptyset$. What happens to the product then?


          2. ${a,b}cap{r,s}neqemptyset$. Then the two share exactly one element (Why?) so we can write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(a,s)$. What is the product then?







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          • For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:27












          • @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28










          • The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          • And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:29










          • Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:32











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          Write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(r,s)$.



          We have two cases:




          1. ${a,b}cap{r,s} = emptyset$. What happens to the product then?


          2. ${a,b}cap{r,s}neqemptyset$. Then the two share exactly one element (Why?) so we can write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(a,s)$. What is the product then?







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          • For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:27












          • @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28










          • The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          • And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:29










          • Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:32
















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          Write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(r,s)$.



          We have two cases:




          1. ${a,b}cap{r,s} = emptyset$. What happens to the product then?


          2. ${a,b}cap{r,s}neqemptyset$. Then the two share exactly one element (Why?) so we can write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(a,s)$. What is the product then?







          share|cite|improve this answer





















          • For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:27












          • @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28










          • The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          • And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:29










          • Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:32














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          Write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(r,s)$.



          We have two cases:




          1. ${a,b}cap{r,s} = emptyset$. What happens to the product then?


          2. ${a,b}cap{r,s}neqemptyset$. Then the two share exactly one element (Why?) so we can write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(a,s)$. What is the product then?







          share|cite|improve this answer












          Write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(r,s)$.



          We have two cases:




          1. ${a,b}cap{r,s} = emptyset$. What happens to the product then?


          2. ${a,b}cap{r,s}neqemptyset$. Then the two share exactly one element (Why?) so we can write $tau_1 = (a,b)$, $tau_2=(a,s)$. What is the product then?








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          • For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:27












          • @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28










          • The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          • And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:29










          • Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:32


















          • For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:27












          • @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28










          • The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          • And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
            – Arturo Magidin
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:29










          • Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
            – user12691
            Dec 15 '11 at 19:32
















          For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:27






          For Case 1, would the product just be (a b)(r s) because nothing is in common? And for Case 2, the product is (a b)(a s)(r) ?
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:27














          @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
          – Arturo Magidin
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:28




          @user12691: Yes; and what is the order of that?
          – Arturo Magidin
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:28












          The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:28






          The order of case one is 2 and the order of case two is 3.
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:28














          And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
          – Arturo Magidin
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:29




          And since those are the only two possible cases, that gives the answer you want.
          – Arturo Magidin
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:29












          Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:32




          Oh okay. That was easier than I thought it would be. Thanks!
          – user12691
          Dec 15 '11 at 19:32


















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