Show that for $p$ prime, $mathbb{Z}_p$ is the only finite field with cardinality $p$ (not counting...
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Show that for $p$ prime, $mathbb{Z}_p$ is the only finite field with cardinality $p$ (not counting Isomorphism)
So here my proof. I know that the elements are $p$, in particular $mathbb{Z}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$. If I suppose there is another field $mathbb{K}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$ with $p$ elements, I want to show that $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
An element mod $p$ in $mathbb{Z}_p $ exist also in $mathbb{K}_p$ so $mathbb{Z}_p subset mathbb{K}_p$. But it's valid also the vice versa $mathbb{Z}_p supset mathbb{K}_p$. Plus, every operation made using elements $z_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{K}_p$ set and every operation made using elements $k_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{Z}_p$ set.
If those fields are finite, then must be $char(mathbb{Z}_p) = p$ and $char(mathbb{K}_p) = p$, so must be $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
Are those evidence sufficient to prove the assertion?
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Show that for $p$ prime, $mathbb{Z}_p$ is the only finite field with cardinality $p$ (not counting Isomorphism)
So here my proof. I know that the elements are $p$, in particular $mathbb{Z}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$. If I suppose there is another field $mathbb{K}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$ with $p$ elements, I want to show that $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
An element mod $p$ in $mathbb{Z}_p $ exist also in $mathbb{K}_p$ so $mathbb{Z}_p subset mathbb{K}_p$. But it's valid also the vice versa $mathbb{Z}_p supset mathbb{K}_p$. Plus, every operation made using elements $z_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{K}_p$ set and every operation made using elements $k_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{Z}_p$ set.
If those fields are finite, then must be $char(mathbb{Z}_p) = p$ and $char(mathbb{K}_p) = p$, so must be $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
Are those evidence sufficient to prove the assertion?
abstract-algebra elementary-number-theory
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Show that for $p$ prime, $mathbb{Z}_p$ is the only finite field with cardinality $p$ (not counting Isomorphism)
So here my proof. I know that the elements are $p$, in particular $mathbb{Z}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$. If I suppose there is another field $mathbb{K}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$ with $p$ elements, I want to show that $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
An element mod $p$ in $mathbb{Z}_p $ exist also in $mathbb{K}_p$ so $mathbb{Z}_p subset mathbb{K}_p$. But it's valid also the vice versa $mathbb{Z}_p supset mathbb{K}_p$. Plus, every operation made using elements $z_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{K}_p$ set and every operation made using elements $k_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{Z}_p$ set.
If those fields are finite, then must be $char(mathbb{Z}_p) = p$ and $char(mathbb{K}_p) = p$, so must be $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
Are those evidence sufficient to prove the assertion?
abstract-algebra elementary-number-theory
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Show that for $p$ prime, $mathbb{Z}_p$ is the only finite field with cardinality $p$ (not counting Isomorphism)
So here my proof. I know that the elements are $p$, in particular $mathbb{Z}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$. If I suppose there is another field $mathbb{K}_p={ 0,1,2,...,p-1}$ with $p$ elements, I want to show that $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
An element mod $p$ in $mathbb{Z}_p $ exist also in $mathbb{K}_p$ so $mathbb{Z}_p subset mathbb{K}_p$. But it's valid also the vice versa $mathbb{Z}_p supset mathbb{K}_p$. Plus, every operation made using elements $z_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{K}_p$ set and every operation made using elements $k_i$ can fall into the $mathbb{Z}_p$ set.
If those fields are finite, then must be $char(mathbb{Z}_p) = p$ and $char(mathbb{K}_p) = p$, so must be $mathbb{Z}_p==mathbb{K}_p$.
Are those evidence sufficient to prove the assertion?
abstract-algebra elementary-number-theory
abstract-algebra elementary-number-theory
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I don't really understand your proof but I don't think that it's correct - you haven't really justified that every element of $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ lies in $mathbb{K}_p$, and then I'm not sure what your next sentence means. I think you have the right idea but haven't quite worded your proof correctly!
Here are the steps you should follow : suppose $K$ is a field with $p$ elements and multiplicative identity $1_K$. Let $phi,:,mathbb{Z}/(p) rightarrow K$ be the ring homomorphism sending $1 mapsto 1_K$, and show that this must be an isomorpsism
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$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
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– Alessar
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
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– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
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We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
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I don't really understand your proof but I don't think that it's correct - you haven't really justified that every element of $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ lies in $mathbb{K}_p$, and then I'm not sure what your next sentence means. I think you have the right idea but haven't quite worded your proof correctly!
Here are the steps you should follow : suppose $K$ is a field with $p$ elements and multiplicative identity $1_K$. Let $phi,:,mathbb{Z}/(p) rightarrow K$ be the ring homomorphism sending $1 mapsto 1_K$, and show that this must be an isomorpsism
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$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
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– Alessar
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
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– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
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We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
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– Alessar
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I don't really understand your proof but I don't think that it's correct - you haven't really justified that every element of $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ lies in $mathbb{K}_p$, and then I'm not sure what your next sentence means. I think you have the right idea but haven't quite worded your proof correctly!
Here are the steps you should follow : suppose $K$ is a field with $p$ elements and multiplicative identity $1_K$. Let $phi,:,mathbb{Z}/(p) rightarrow K$ be the ring homomorphism sending $1 mapsto 1_K$, and show that this must be an isomorpsism
$endgroup$
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$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
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– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:18
1
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
$endgroup$
– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
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We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
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– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:33
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I don't really understand your proof but I don't think that it's correct - you haven't really justified that every element of $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ lies in $mathbb{K}_p$, and then I'm not sure what your next sentence means. I think you have the right idea but haven't quite worded your proof correctly!
Here are the steps you should follow : suppose $K$ is a field with $p$ elements and multiplicative identity $1_K$. Let $phi,:,mathbb{Z}/(p) rightarrow K$ be the ring homomorphism sending $1 mapsto 1_K$, and show that this must be an isomorpsism
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I don't really understand your proof but I don't think that it's correct - you haven't really justified that every element of $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ lies in $mathbb{K}_p$, and then I'm not sure what your next sentence means. I think you have the right idea but haven't quite worded your proof correctly!
Here are the steps you should follow : suppose $K$ is a field with $p$ elements and multiplicative identity $1_K$. Let $phi,:,mathbb{Z}/(p) rightarrow K$ be the ring homomorphism sending $1 mapsto 1_K$, and show that this must be an isomorpsism
answered Dec 13 '18 at 14:53
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$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
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– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:18
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
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– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
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We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
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– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:33
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$begingroup$
$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
$endgroup$
– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:18
1
$begingroup$
Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
$endgroup$
– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
$begingroup$
We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
$endgroup$
– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:33
$begingroup$
$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
$endgroup$
– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:18
$begingroup$
$phi : mathbb{Z}_p rightarrow K$ is an homomorphism because $phi(1+z_i) = phi(1)+phi(z_i) = 1_k+k_i$. For the product $phi(1 times z_i) = phi(1) times phi(z_i) = 1_k times k_i = k_i$ so the mapping should be complete, and the proof too. Do I miss something yet? I have great difficulties to use the formalism, sorry
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– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:18
1
1
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
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– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
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Think about the kernel of $phi$ and what we can say about it, knowing that $mathbb{Z}/(p)$ has prime order.
$endgroup$
– ODF
Dec 13 '18 at 15:23
$begingroup$
We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
$endgroup$
– Alessar
Dec 13 '18 at 15:33
$begingroup$
We know that if $mathbb{Z_p}$ has order $p$ with $p$ prime, then $Ker phi not = 0$; this reminds me of the algebraic condition or the minimal polynomial. For the algebraic condition, it also mean that is a finite field...?
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