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What is the minimum number of edges that a simple
connected graph with n vertices can have?



A simple graph means that there is only one edge between any two vertices, and a connected graph means that there is a path between any two vertices in the graph. So wouldn't the minimum number of edges be n-1? This would form a line linking all vertices.



Am I missing something? This seems too easy.










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    That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
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    – Fimpellizieri
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    Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
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    "Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
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$begingroup$


What is the minimum number of edges that a simple
connected graph with n vertices can have?



A simple graph means that there is only one edge between any two vertices, and a connected graph means that there is a path between any two vertices in the graph. So wouldn't the minimum number of edges be n-1? This would form a line linking all vertices.



Am I missing something? This seems too easy.










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    $begingroup$
    That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
    $endgroup$
    – Fimpellizieri
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:27






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    $begingroup$
    Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
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    – Forever Mozart
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:29












  • $begingroup$
    "Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:48














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What is the minimum number of edges that a simple
connected graph with n vertices can have?



A simple graph means that there is only one edge between any two vertices, and a connected graph means that there is a path between any two vertices in the graph. So wouldn't the minimum number of edges be n-1? This would form a line linking all vertices.



Am I missing something? This seems too easy.










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What is the minimum number of edges that a simple
connected graph with n vertices can have?



A simple graph means that there is only one edge between any two vertices, and a connected graph means that there is a path between any two vertices in the graph. So wouldn't the minimum number of edges be n-1? This would form a line linking all vertices.



Am I missing something? This seems too easy.







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    $begingroup$
    That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
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    – Fimpellizieri
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
    $endgroup$
    – Forever Mozart
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:29












  • $begingroup$
    "Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:48














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
    $endgroup$
    – Fimpellizieri
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
    $endgroup$
    – Forever Mozart
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:29












  • $begingroup$
    "Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Apr 27 '16 at 4:48








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$begingroup$
That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
$endgroup$
– Fimpellizieri
Apr 27 '16 at 4:27




$begingroup$
That is correct. A formalization of your reasoning can be done using induction.
$endgroup$
– Fimpellizieri
Apr 27 '16 at 4:27




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$begingroup$
Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
$endgroup$
– Forever Mozart
Apr 27 '16 at 4:29






$begingroup$
Yes it's easy but you do not really have a proof. Show that adding an edge reduces the number of components by at most $1$. So if you begin with $n$ isolated vertices, you have to add at least $n-1$ edges to get exactly $1$ component.
$endgroup$
– Forever Mozart
Apr 27 '16 at 4:29














$begingroup$
"Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
$endgroup$
– bof
Apr 27 '16 at 4:48




$begingroup$
"Simple" is irrelevant. If the graph has the minimum number of edges for connectivity, it won't have two vertices joined by two edges.
$endgroup$
– bof
Apr 27 '16 at 4:48










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Fact: if the degree of all points is 2 or more, there is a cycle $v_1 rightarrow v_2 rightarrow ldots v_1$ in the graph.



(Proof sketch: start anywhere and keep walking, till you meet a vertex you've already seen (which will happen as there only finitely many): there are no dead ends as long as we meet new points because of the degree condition)).



This sets you up for induction: assume it's true for $n$ ($n=1$ is trivial), then take a minimally connected graph of size $n+1$. If all degrees are $2$ or more, we have a cycle, and we can remove an edge from the cycle and keep connectedness of the total graph, contradicting minimality. So we have a point of degree $1$ (degree $0$ cannot happen in a connected graph), and we remove this 1 edge and 1 vertex and apply the induction assumption...






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    Fact: if the degree of all points is 2 or more, there is a cycle $v_1 rightarrow v_2 rightarrow ldots v_1$ in the graph.



    (Proof sketch: start anywhere and keep walking, till you meet a vertex you've already seen (which will happen as there only finitely many): there are no dead ends as long as we meet new points because of the degree condition)).



    This sets you up for induction: assume it's true for $n$ ($n=1$ is trivial), then take a minimally connected graph of size $n+1$. If all degrees are $2$ or more, we have a cycle, and we can remove an edge from the cycle and keep connectedness of the total graph, contradicting minimality. So we have a point of degree $1$ (degree $0$ cannot happen in a connected graph), and we remove this 1 edge and 1 vertex and apply the induction assumption...






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      Fact: if the degree of all points is 2 or more, there is a cycle $v_1 rightarrow v_2 rightarrow ldots v_1$ in the graph.



      (Proof sketch: start anywhere and keep walking, till you meet a vertex you've already seen (which will happen as there only finitely many): there are no dead ends as long as we meet new points because of the degree condition)).



      This sets you up for induction: assume it's true for $n$ ($n=1$ is trivial), then take a minimally connected graph of size $n+1$. If all degrees are $2$ or more, we have a cycle, and we can remove an edge from the cycle and keep connectedness of the total graph, contradicting minimality. So we have a point of degree $1$ (degree $0$ cannot happen in a connected graph), and we remove this 1 edge and 1 vertex and apply the induction assumption...






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        Fact: if the degree of all points is 2 or more, there is a cycle $v_1 rightarrow v_2 rightarrow ldots v_1$ in the graph.



        (Proof sketch: start anywhere and keep walking, till you meet a vertex you've already seen (which will happen as there only finitely many): there are no dead ends as long as we meet new points because of the degree condition)).



        This sets you up for induction: assume it's true for $n$ ($n=1$ is trivial), then take a minimally connected graph of size $n+1$. If all degrees are $2$ or more, we have a cycle, and we can remove an edge from the cycle and keep connectedness of the total graph, contradicting minimality. So we have a point of degree $1$ (degree $0$ cannot happen in a connected graph), and we remove this 1 edge and 1 vertex and apply the induction assumption...






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        Fact: if the degree of all points is 2 or more, there is a cycle $v_1 rightarrow v_2 rightarrow ldots v_1$ in the graph.



        (Proof sketch: start anywhere and keep walking, till you meet a vertex you've already seen (which will happen as there only finitely many): there are no dead ends as long as we meet new points because of the degree condition)).



        This sets you up for induction: assume it's true for $n$ ($n=1$ is trivial), then take a minimally connected graph of size $n+1$. If all degrees are $2$ or more, we have a cycle, and we can remove an edge from the cycle and keep connectedness of the total graph, contradicting minimality. So we have a point of degree $1$ (degree $0$ cannot happen in a connected graph), and we remove this 1 edge and 1 vertex and apply the induction assumption...







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