How do I prove this combinatorial identity
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Show that ${2n choose n} + 3{2n-1 choose n} + 3^2{2n-2 choose n} + cdots + 3^n{n choose n} \ = {2n+1 choose n+1} + 2{2n+1 choose n+2} + 2^2{2n+1 choose n+3} + cdots + 2^n{2n+1 choose 2n+1}$
One way that I did it was to use the idea of generating functions.
For the left hand side expression, I can find 2 functions. Consider;
$$f_1 (x) = frac{1}{(1-3x)} \ = 1 + 3^1x + 3^2x^2 + 3^3x^3 + cdots + 3^nx^n + cdots \ f_2(x) = frac{1}{(1-x)^{n+1}} \ = {n choose n} + {n+1 choose n}x + {n+2 choose n}x^2 + cdots + {2n-1 choose n}x^{n-1} + {2n choose n}x^n + cdots + $$
Consider the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_1 (x) . f_2 (x)$. Then the coefficient will be the expression on the left hand side.
Now we further consider 2 functions for the right-hand side expression.
Consider;
$$f_3 (x) = frac {1}{(1-2x)} \ = 1 + 2^1x + 2^2x^2 + cdots + 2^{n-1}x^{n-1} + 2^nx^n + cdots \ f_4 (x) = (1+x)^{2n+1} \= 1 + {2n+1 choose 1}x + {2n+1 choose 2}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n-1}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n}x^n \ = {2n+1 choose 2n+1} + {2n+1 choose 2n}x + {2n+1 choose 2n-1}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+2}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n+1}x^{n}$$
Hence the coefficient of $x^n$ is the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_3(x) . f_4(x)$
This is what I managed to do so far. I'm not sure if $f_1(x) .f_2(x) = f_3(x).f_4(x)$. If the two functions are indeed equal, then I can conclude that their coefficient of $x^n$ must be equal, which will immediately answer the question. If they are equal, how do I show that they are?
If the two functions are not equal? How do I proceed to show this question?
Edit: It might not be true that the product of the two functions are equal. I tried substituting $x=0.1, n=1$. Seems like the two values are not equal. How do I proceed with this question?
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Show that ${2n choose n} + 3{2n-1 choose n} + 3^2{2n-2 choose n} + cdots + 3^n{n choose n} \ = {2n+1 choose n+1} + 2{2n+1 choose n+2} + 2^2{2n+1 choose n+3} + cdots + 2^n{2n+1 choose 2n+1}$
One way that I did it was to use the idea of generating functions.
For the left hand side expression, I can find 2 functions. Consider;
$$f_1 (x) = frac{1}{(1-3x)} \ = 1 + 3^1x + 3^2x^2 + 3^3x^3 + cdots + 3^nx^n + cdots \ f_2(x) = frac{1}{(1-x)^{n+1}} \ = {n choose n} + {n+1 choose n}x + {n+2 choose n}x^2 + cdots + {2n-1 choose n}x^{n-1} + {2n choose n}x^n + cdots + $$
Consider the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_1 (x) . f_2 (x)$. Then the coefficient will be the expression on the left hand side.
Now we further consider 2 functions for the right-hand side expression.
Consider;
$$f_3 (x) = frac {1}{(1-2x)} \ = 1 + 2^1x + 2^2x^2 + cdots + 2^{n-1}x^{n-1} + 2^nx^n + cdots \ f_4 (x) = (1+x)^{2n+1} \= 1 + {2n+1 choose 1}x + {2n+1 choose 2}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n-1}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n}x^n \ = {2n+1 choose 2n+1} + {2n+1 choose 2n}x + {2n+1 choose 2n-1}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+2}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n+1}x^{n}$$
Hence the coefficient of $x^n$ is the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_3(x) . f_4(x)$
This is what I managed to do so far. I'm not sure if $f_1(x) .f_2(x) = f_3(x).f_4(x)$. If the two functions are indeed equal, then I can conclude that their coefficient of $x^n$ must be equal, which will immediately answer the question. If they are equal, how do I show that they are?
If the two functions are not equal? How do I proceed to show this question?
Edit: It might not be true that the product of the two functions are equal. I tried substituting $x=0.1, n=1$. Seems like the two values are not equal. How do I proceed with this question?
combinatorics induction binomial-coefficients generating-functions combinatorial-proofs
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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– Einar Rødland
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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Show that ${2n choose n} + 3{2n-1 choose n} + 3^2{2n-2 choose n} + cdots + 3^n{n choose n} \ = {2n+1 choose n+1} + 2{2n+1 choose n+2} + 2^2{2n+1 choose n+3} + cdots + 2^n{2n+1 choose 2n+1}$
One way that I did it was to use the idea of generating functions.
For the left hand side expression, I can find 2 functions. Consider;
$$f_1 (x) = frac{1}{(1-3x)} \ = 1 + 3^1x + 3^2x^2 + 3^3x^3 + cdots + 3^nx^n + cdots \ f_2(x) = frac{1}{(1-x)^{n+1}} \ = {n choose n} + {n+1 choose n}x + {n+2 choose n}x^2 + cdots + {2n-1 choose n}x^{n-1} + {2n choose n}x^n + cdots + $$
Consider the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_1 (x) . f_2 (x)$. Then the coefficient will be the expression on the left hand side.
Now we further consider 2 functions for the right-hand side expression.
Consider;
$$f_3 (x) = frac {1}{(1-2x)} \ = 1 + 2^1x + 2^2x^2 + cdots + 2^{n-1}x^{n-1} + 2^nx^n + cdots \ f_4 (x) = (1+x)^{2n+1} \= 1 + {2n+1 choose 1}x + {2n+1 choose 2}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n-1}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n}x^n \ = {2n+1 choose 2n+1} + {2n+1 choose 2n}x + {2n+1 choose 2n-1}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+2}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n+1}x^{n}$$
Hence the coefficient of $x^n$ is the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_3(x) . f_4(x)$
This is what I managed to do so far. I'm not sure if $f_1(x) .f_2(x) = f_3(x).f_4(x)$. If the two functions are indeed equal, then I can conclude that their coefficient of $x^n$ must be equal, which will immediately answer the question. If they are equal, how do I show that they are?
If the two functions are not equal? How do I proceed to show this question?
Edit: It might not be true that the product of the two functions are equal. I tried substituting $x=0.1, n=1$. Seems like the two values are not equal. How do I proceed with this question?
combinatorics induction binomial-coefficients generating-functions combinatorial-proofs
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Show that ${2n choose n} + 3{2n-1 choose n} + 3^2{2n-2 choose n} + cdots + 3^n{n choose n} \ = {2n+1 choose n+1} + 2{2n+1 choose n+2} + 2^2{2n+1 choose n+3} + cdots + 2^n{2n+1 choose 2n+1}$
One way that I did it was to use the idea of generating functions.
For the left hand side expression, I can find 2 functions. Consider;
$$f_1 (x) = frac{1}{(1-3x)} \ = 1 + 3^1x + 3^2x^2 + 3^3x^3 + cdots + 3^nx^n + cdots \ f_2(x) = frac{1}{(1-x)^{n+1}} \ = {n choose n} + {n+1 choose n}x + {n+2 choose n}x^2 + cdots + {2n-1 choose n}x^{n-1} + {2n choose n}x^n + cdots + $$
Consider the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_1 (x) . f_2 (x)$. Then the coefficient will be the expression on the left hand side.
Now we further consider 2 functions for the right-hand side expression.
Consider;
$$f_3 (x) = frac {1}{(1-2x)} \ = 1 + 2^1x + 2^2x^2 + cdots + 2^{n-1}x^{n-1} + 2^nx^n + cdots \ f_4 (x) = (1+x)^{2n+1} \= 1 + {2n+1 choose 1}x + {2n+1 choose 2}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n-1}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n}x^n \ = {2n+1 choose 2n+1} + {2n+1 choose 2n}x + {2n+1 choose 2n-1}x^2 + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+2}x^{n-1} + {2n+1 choose n+1}x^{n}$$
Hence the coefficient of $x^n$ is the coefficient of $x^n$ in the expansion of $f_3(x) . f_4(x)$
This is what I managed to do so far. I'm not sure if $f_1(x) .f_2(x) = f_3(x).f_4(x)$. If the two functions are indeed equal, then I can conclude that their coefficient of $x^n$ must be equal, which will immediately answer the question. If they are equal, how do I show that they are?
If the two functions are not equal? How do I proceed to show this question?
Edit: It might not be true that the product of the two functions are equal. I tried substituting $x=0.1, n=1$. Seems like the two values are not equal. How do I proceed with this question?
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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– Einar Rødland
7 hours ago
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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– Icycarus
7 hours ago
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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– Einar Rødland
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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– Icycarus
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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Here is a combinatorial proof. Both sides of the equation answer the following question:
How many sequences are there of length $2n+1$, with entries in ${0,1,2}$, such that
- at least one of the entries is a $2$, and
- there are exactly $n$ zeroes to the left of the leftmost $2$?
LHS:
Suppose the leftmost $2$ occurs in spot $k+1$. Among the $k$ spots before hand, you must choose $n$ of the entries to be zero. The $2n+1-(k+1)=2n-k$ spots afterward can be anything. There are $binom{k}n3^{2n-k}$ ways to do this. Then sum over $k$.
RHS:
Suppose there are $j$ entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$. Choose those entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$ in $binom{2n+1}j$ ways. The leftmost $n$ of these entries must be zero, the $(n+1)^{st}$ entry must be two, then the remaining $j-(n+1)$ entries can be chosen freely among $0$ and $2$. There are $binom{2n+1}{j}2^{j-(n+1)}$ ways to do this, then sum over $j$.
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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Using your functions, consider
$$
3^n f_2(frac13) = 3^n frac{1}{(1-frac13)^{n+1}} = frac32 (frac92)^n\ = {n choose n}3^n + {n+1 choose n}3^{n-1} + cdots + {2n choose n} + cdots
$$
and further
$$
2^n f_4 (frac12) = 2^n (frac32)^{2n+1} = frac32 (frac92)^n \= {2n+1 choose 2n+1}2^n + {2n+1 choose 2n}2^{n-1} + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+1}
$$
The two are equal.
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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Here is a combinatorial proof. Both sides of the equation answer the following question:
How many sequences are there of length $2n+1$, with entries in ${0,1,2}$, such that
- at least one of the entries is a $2$, and
- there are exactly $n$ zeroes to the left of the leftmost $2$?
LHS:
Suppose the leftmost $2$ occurs in spot $k+1$. Among the $k$ spots before hand, you must choose $n$ of the entries to be zero. The $2n+1-(k+1)=2n-k$ spots afterward can be anything. There are $binom{k}n3^{2n-k}$ ways to do this. Then sum over $k$.
RHS:
Suppose there are $j$ entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$. Choose those entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$ in $binom{2n+1}j$ ways. The leftmost $n$ of these entries must be zero, the $(n+1)^{st}$ entry must be two, then the remaining $j-(n+1)$ entries can be chosen freely among $0$ and $2$. There are $binom{2n+1}{j}2^{j-(n+1)}$ ways to do this, then sum over $j$.
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
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Here is a combinatorial proof. Both sides of the equation answer the following question:
How many sequences are there of length $2n+1$, with entries in ${0,1,2}$, such that
- at least one of the entries is a $2$, and
- there are exactly $n$ zeroes to the left of the leftmost $2$?
LHS:
Suppose the leftmost $2$ occurs in spot $k+1$. Among the $k$ spots before hand, you must choose $n$ of the entries to be zero. The $2n+1-(k+1)=2n-k$ spots afterward can be anything. There are $binom{k}n3^{2n-k}$ ways to do this. Then sum over $k$.
RHS:
Suppose there are $j$ entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$. Choose those entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$ in $binom{2n+1}j$ ways. The leftmost $n$ of these entries must be zero, the $(n+1)^{st}$ entry must be two, then the remaining $j-(n+1)$ entries can be chosen freely among $0$ and $2$. There are $binom{2n+1}{j}2^{j-(n+1)}$ ways to do this, then sum over $j$.
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
1 hour ago
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Here is a combinatorial proof. Both sides of the equation answer the following question:
How many sequences are there of length $2n+1$, with entries in ${0,1,2}$, such that
- at least one of the entries is a $2$, and
- there are exactly $n$ zeroes to the left of the leftmost $2$?
LHS:
Suppose the leftmost $2$ occurs in spot $k+1$. Among the $k$ spots before hand, you must choose $n$ of the entries to be zero. The $2n+1-(k+1)=2n-k$ spots afterward can be anything. There are $binom{k}n3^{2n-k}$ ways to do this. Then sum over $k$.
RHS:
Suppose there are $j$ entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$. Choose those entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$ in $binom{2n+1}j$ ways. The leftmost $n$ of these entries must be zero, the $(n+1)^{st}$ entry must be two, then the remaining $j-(n+1)$ entries can be chosen freely among $0$ and $2$. There are $binom{2n+1}{j}2^{j-(n+1)}$ ways to do this, then sum over $j$.
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Here is a combinatorial proof. Both sides of the equation answer the following question:
How many sequences are there of length $2n+1$, with entries in ${0,1,2}$, such that
- at least one of the entries is a $2$, and
- there are exactly $n$ zeroes to the left of the leftmost $2$?
LHS:
Suppose the leftmost $2$ occurs in spot $k+1$. Among the $k$ spots before hand, you must choose $n$ of the entries to be zero. The $2n+1-(k+1)=2n-k$ spots afterward can be anything. There are $binom{k}n3^{2n-k}$ ways to do this. Then sum over $k$.
RHS:
Suppose there are $j$ entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$. Choose those entries which are equal to $0$ or $2$ in $binom{2n+1}j$ ways. The leftmost $n$ of these entries must be zero, the $(n+1)^{st}$ entry must be two, then the remaining $j-(n+1)$ entries can be chosen freely among $0$ and $2$. There are $binom{2n+1}{j}2^{j-(n+1)}$ ways to do this, then sum over $j$.
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
1 hour ago
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
7 hours ago
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How did you get to the process of the answer? The way that you thought of the answer is quite a unique way and I was wondering if you can share how you managed to think about this solution
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– Icycarus
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
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@Icycarus The LHS has a fixed lower index and changing upper index. This reminded me of the Hockey stick identity, whose proof involves conditioning on where the largest element of a subset lies. Since there was a $3^{i}$ afterwards, I figured ternary sequences had to be involved somehow.
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– Mike Earnest
7 hours ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
1 hour ago
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@Icycarus The method of counting combinatorial objects is called 'combinatrial proof'. Most of math taught in school is concerned with manipulating algebraic structures; combinatorial identities are actually intended to be mapped to ... let's say somewhat real-world arrangements of objects. And the kind of proof used here involves manipulation of those arrangements rather than straight algebra. You'll get the feel for it with some much more basic identity proofs. There's often an 'easy' map from algebraic op to combinatorial op.
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– Mitch
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Using your functions, consider
$$
3^n f_2(frac13) = 3^n frac{1}{(1-frac13)^{n+1}} = frac32 (frac92)^n\ = {n choose n}3^n + {n+1 choose n}3^{n-1} + cdots + {2n choose n} + cdots
$$
and further
$$
2^n f_4 (frac12) = 2^n (frac32)^{2n+1} = frac32 (frac92)^n \= {2n+1 choose 2n+1}2^n + {2n+1 choose 2n}2^{n-1} + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+1}
$$
The two are equal.
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
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Using your functions, consider
$$
3^n f_2(frac13) = 3^n frac{1}{(1-frac13)^{n+1}} = frac32 (frac92)^n\ = {n choose n}3^n + {n+1 choose n}3^{n-1} + cdots + {2n choose n} + cdots
$$
and further
$$
2^n f_4 (frac12) = 2^n (frac32)^{2n+1} = frac32 (frac92)^n \= {2n+1 choose 2n+1}2^n + {2n+1 choose 2n}2^{n-1} + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+1}
$$
The two are equal.
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
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Using your functions, consider
$$
3^n f_2(frac13) = 3^n frac{1}{(1-frac13)^{n+1}} = frac32 (frac92)^n\ = {n choose n}3^n + {n+1 choose n}3^{n-1} + cdots + {2n choose n} + cdots
$$
and further
$$
2^n f_4 (frac12) = 2^n (frac32)^{2n+1} = frac32 (frac92)^n \= {2n+1 choose 2n+1}2^n + {2n+1 choose 2n}2^{n-1} + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+1}
$$
The two are equal.
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Using your functions, consider
$$
3^n f_2(frac13) = 3^n frac{1}{(1-frac13)^{n+1}} = frac32 (frac92)^n\ = {n choose n}3^n + {n+1 choose n}3^{n-1} + cdots + {2n choose n} + cdots
$$
and further
$$
2^n f_4 (frac12) = 2^n (frac32)^{2n+1} = frac32 (frac92)^n \= {2n+1 choose 2n+1}2^n + {2n+1 choose 2n}2^{n-1} + cdots + {2n+1 choose n+1}
$$
The two are equal.
answered 7 hours ago
AndreasAndreas
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
2
2
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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I think something is awry. For $3^nf_2(1/3)$, the sum is infinite, but OP’s sum is finite.
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– Mike Earnest
6 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
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@MikeEarnest I tried to check your point. I couldn't solve that issue, it is striking that the two sums have equal value, and the regions of convergence is fulfilled. Where is the (hidden) issue?
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– Andreas
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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The two functions are not equal. In general for rational expressions, ie fractions where numerator and denominator are polynomials, if $a(x)/b(x)=c(x)/d(x)$ for all $x$ (ie expressions are identical), then you must have the polynomial equality $a(x)d(x)=b(x)c(x)$ which is only true if the two products are the same polynomial. If both fractions, $a(x)/b(x)$ and $c(x)/d(x)$, are without common factors, this is only true if $a(x)=kcdot c(x)$ and $b(x)=kcdot d(x)$ for some constant $k$.
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– Einar Rødland
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Noted! Thanks for the explanation!
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– Icycarus
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