How to push an endoscopic camera upto 20 meters in a horizontal pipe?
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I have a small endoscopic camera (custom made). I wanted to push the camera inside a horizontal pipe of dimensions varying from (25 mm to 65 mm ID). But the wire attached to the camera is not stiff enough to push the camera. After a certain length, camera stops moving (cz the wire coils inside the pipe). But I have seen Companies like Olympus etc., push their camera even up to 25 meters. I know that they have a special cover over the wire which is stiff and flexible for pushing the camera. How can I make a cover similar to that ? I have enquired many places but could not find a solution. Thanks in advance for your help.
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asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
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I have a small endoscopic camera (custom made). I wanted to push the camera inside a horizontal pipe of dimensions varying from (25 mm to 65 mm ID). But the wire attached to the camera is not stiff enough to push the camera. After a certain length, camera stops moving (cz the wire coils inside the pipe). But I have seen Companies like Olympus etc., push their camera even up to 25 meters. I know that they have a special cover over the wire which is stiff and flexible for pushing the camera. How can I make a cover similar to that ? I have enquired many places but could not find a solution. Thanks in advance for your help.
materials springs
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
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– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
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– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
Dec 26 '18 at 15:42
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I have a small endoscopic camera (custom made). I wanted to push the camera inside a horizontal pipe of dimensions varying from (25 mm to 65 mm ID). But the wire attached to the camera is not stiff enough to push the camera. After a certain length, camera stops moving (cz the wire coils inside the pipe). But I have seen Companies like Olympus etc., push their camera even up to 25 meters. I know that they have a special cover over the wire which is stiff and flexible for pushing the camera. How can I make a cover similar to that ? I have enquired many places but could not find a solution. Thanks in advance for your help.
materials springs
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
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I have a small endoscopic camera (custom made). I wanted to push the camera inside a horizontal pipe of dimensions varying from (25 mm to 65 mm ID). But the wire attached to the camera is not stiff enough to push the camera. After a certain length, camera stops moving (cz the wire coils inside the pipe). But I have seen Companies like Olympus etc., push their camera even up to 25 meters. I know that they have a special cover over the wire which is stiff and flexible for pushing the camera. How can I make a cover similar to that ? I have enquired many places but could not find a solution. Thanks in advance for your help.
materials springs
materials springs
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
asked Dec 26 '18 at 10:44
user18754user18754
161
161
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
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– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
2
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
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– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
Dec 26 '18 at 15:42
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show 1 more comment
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
$endgroup$
– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
2
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
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– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
Dec 26 '18 at 15:42
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
$endgroup$
– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
$endgroup$
– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
2
2
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
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– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
$endgroup$
– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
$endgroup$
– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
$begingroup$
@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
$endgroup$
– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
Dec 26 '18 at 15:42
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
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You can buy endoscope or borescope cables which should "just work," though 20m is longer than the typical cable you will find on Amazon or Ebay.
If you want to try making your own, look at the design of Bowden cables (used for brake cables on bikes, etc). The outer cover is made like a coil spring, so it can bend around a large radius but won't "buckle" into a small radius at one point.
You might also consider flexible chimney sweeping rods, which are made in 1 or 2 meter lengths which you can join together as you move the camera down the pipe. They would have the disadvantage that the camera cable would be separate from the rods, unlike a Bowden cable where it would be inside the cable and protected from dirt and damage.
In fact chimney sweeping suppliers sell inspection cameras that fit onto standard sweeping rods, and are self contained with battery power and a wireless data transmission link, so you don't need a separate cable to the camera.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
alephzeroalephzero
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Most electrical engineers use an electrician Conduit Ducting wire for that (which you could use in your cable setup), but in your case it probably easier to use a piece of string and a vacuum cleaner. Put the vacuum cleaner at one end and suck the piece of string through. Then pull the camera through using the string like explained in How to get cables in a long pipe - with vacuum cleaner
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
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answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
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Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
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– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
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I think I have a very similar USB camera.
I tape it to an electrician's tool called, in trade jargon, fish tape, this is a narrow strong, springy tape, which is uses to pull the wires through conduits.
My sewer line is prone to clogging at the point when it connects to old City sewer main, which even though is public, has never been serviced by the city because it runs in my property, (easement).
I have taped a keychain led flash light to this fish tape and it helps a lot.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
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You can buy endoscope or borescope cables which should "just work," though 20m is longer than the typical cable you will find on Amazon or Ebay.
If you want to try making your own, look at the design of Bowden cables (used for brake cables on bikes, etc). The outer cover is made like a coil spring, so it can bend around a large radius but won't "buckle" into a small radius at one point.
You might also consider flexible chimney sweeping rods, which are made in 1 or 2 meter lengths which you can join together as you move the camera down the pipe. They would have the disadvantage that the camera cable would be separate from the rods, unlike a Bowden cable where it would be inside the cable and protected from dirt and damage.
In fact chimney sweeping suppliers sell inspection cameras that fit onto standard sweeping rods, and are self contained with battery power and a wireless data transmission link, so you don't need a separate cable to the camera.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
alephzeroalephzero
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$begingroup$
You can buy endoscope or borescope cables which should "just work," though 20m is longer than the typical cable you will find on Amazon or Ebay.
If you want to try making your own, look at the design of Bowden cables (used for brake cables on bikes, etc). The outer cover is made like a coil spring, so it can bend around a large radius but won't "buckle" into a small radius at one point.
You might also consider flexible chimney sweeping rods, which are made in 1 or 2 meter lengths which you can join together as you move the camera down the pipe. They would have the disadvantage that the camera cable would be separate from the rods, unlike a Bowden cable where it would be inside the cable and protected from dirt and damage.
In fact chimney sweeping suppliers sell inspection cameras that fit onto standard sweeping rods, and are self contained with battery power and a wireless data transmission link, so you don't need a separate cable to the camera.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
alephzeroalephzero
7,6711621
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can buy endoscope or borescope cables which should "just work," though 20m is longer than the typical cable you will find on Amazon or Ebay.
If you want to try making your own, look at the design of Bowden cables (used for brake cables on bikes, etc). The outer cover is made like a coil spring, so it can bend around a large radius but won't "buckle" into a small radius at one point.
You might also consider flexible chimney sweeping rods, which are made in 1 or 2 meter lengths which you can join together as you move the camera down the pipe. They would have the disadvantage that the camera cable would be separate from the rods, unlike a Bowden cable where it would be inside the cable and protected from dirt and damage.
In fact chimney sweeping suppliers sell inspection cameras that fit onto standard sweeping rods, and are self contained with battery power and a wireless data transmission link, so you don't need a separate cable to the camera.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
alephzeroalephzero
7,6711621
$endgroup$
You can buy endoscope or borescope cables which should "just work," though 20m is longer than the typical cable you will find on Amazon or Ebay.
If you want to try making your own, look at the design of Bowden cables (used for brake cables on bikes, etc). The outer cover is made like a coil spring, so it can bend around a large radius but won't "buckle" into a small radius at one point.
You might also consider flexible chimney sweeping rods, which are made in 1 or 2 meter lengths which you can join together as you move the camera down the pipe. They would have the disadvantage that the camera cable would be separate from the rods, unlike a Bowden cable where it would be inside the cable and protected from dirt and damage.
In fact chimney sweeping suppliers sell inspection cameras that fit onto standard sweeping rods, and are self contained with battery power and a wireless data transmission link, so you don't need a separate cable to the camera.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
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answered Dec 26 '18 at 12:46
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Most electrical engineers use an electrician Conduit Ducting wire for that (which you could use in your cable setup), but in your case it probably easier to use a piece of string and a vacuum cleaner. Put the vacuum cleaner at one end and suck the piece of string through. Then pull the camera through using the string like explained in How to get cables in a long pipe - with vacuum cleaner
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most electrical engineers use an electrician Conduit Ducting wire for that (which you could use in your cable setup), but in your case it probably easier to use a piece of string and a vacuum cleaner. Put the vacuum cleaner at one end and suck the piece of string through. Then pull the camera through using the string like explained in How to get cables in a long pipe - with vacuum cleaner
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most electrical engineers use an electrician Conduit Ducting wire for that (which you could use in your cable setup), but in your case it probably easier to use a piece of string and a vacuum cleaner. Put the vacuum cleaner at one end and suck the piece of string through. Then pull the camera through using the string like explained in How to get cables in a long pipe - with vacuum cleaner
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
$endgroup$
Most electrical engineers use an electrician Conduit Ducting wire for that (which you could use in your cable setup), but in your case it probably easier to use a piece of string and a vacuum cleaner. Put the vacuum cleaner at one end and suck the piece of string through. Then pull the camera through using the string like explained in How to get cables in a long pipe - with vacuum cleaner
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:38
user8055
560417
560417
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
answered Dec 26 '18 at 16:23
Rolf HuismanRolf Huisman
1213
1213
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
$begingroup$
Similar to oil industry : Make a "pig" , flexible foam plastic/rubber to fit pipe. Attach the camera to the pig and blow it down your pipe. Do your exam as you slowly pull the camera/ pig back. The industry does this for many miles.
$endgroup$
– blacksmith37
Dec 26 '18 at 19:56
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think I have a very similar USB camera.
I tape it to an electrician's tool called, in trade jargon, fish tape, this is a narrow strong, springy tape, which is uses to pull the wires through conduits.
My sewer line is prone to clogging at the point when it connects to old City sewer main, which even though is public, has never been serviced by the city because it runs in my property, (easement).
I have taped a keychain led flash light to this fish tape and it helps a lot.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think I have a very similar USB camera.
I tape it to an electrician's tool called, in trade jargon, fish tape, this is a narrow strong, springy tape, which is uses to pull the wires through conduits.
My sewer line is prone to clogging at the point when it connects to old City sewer main, which even though is public, has never been serviced by the city because it runs in my property, (easement).
I have taped a keychain led flash light to this fish tape and it helps a lot.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think I have a very similar USB camera.
I tape it to an electrician's tool called, in trade jargon, fish tape, this is a narrow strong, springy tape, which is uses to pull the wires through conduits.
My sewer line is prone to clogging at the point when it connects to old City sewer main, which even though is public, has never been serviced by the city because it runs in my property, (easement).
I have taped a keychain led flash light to this fish tape and it helps a lot.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
$endgroup$
I think I have a very similar USB camera.
I tape it to an electrician's tool called, in trade jargon, fish tape, this is a narrow strong, springy tape, which is uses to pull the wires through conduits.
My sewer line is prone to clogging at the point when it connects to old City sewer main, which even though is public, has never been serviced by the city because it runs in my property, (easement).
I have taped a keychain led flash light to this fish tape and it helps a lot.
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
4,7122511
answered Dec 26 '18 at 18:33
kamrankamran
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4,7122511
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Why not pull it...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 11:45
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@SolarMike: Well, you'd need a way to get a thread or something across from one end of the pipe to the "pulling end".
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– Wasabi♦
Dec 26 '18 at 12:52
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@Wasabi - That's easy, you just need a properly trained ferret ;)
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– alephzero
Dec 26 '18 at 13:03
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@Wasabi sometimes it is worth thinking « from the other end »...And I have used "pull-throughs" that are used to drag stuff through a long section and you also bring through another "pull-through" for the next time ... depends what the pipe is used for though...
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– Solar Mike
Dec 26 '18 at 13:27
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You have not specified how thick the cable is that trails behind the camera. Thus, we have no idea how much clearance remains for whatever additional thing is pushing the camera from the 25 mm to 65 mm ID that you've mentioned. What does the profile of the 25 mm to 65 mm ID variation look like as the camera travels along the horizontal pipe? For instance, is it 65mm for X m, then abruptly 25mm? Does it taper smoothly from 65mm to 25mm? Is the pipe straight? Does the solution have to accommodate bends in the pipe?
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– Makyen
Dec 26 '18 at 15:42