Are “grúa” and “grulla” etymologically related?











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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".



In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?










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    Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".



In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?










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    Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".



In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?










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In English, mechanical "cranes" are thus named for their likeness to the bird, "crane".



In Spanish, the mechanical crane is called a grúa and the bird a grulla; is this similarity a coincidence, or are the words also related?







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    Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
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    Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
    – enxaneta
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
– enxaneta
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Also related with pedigree (esp: pedigrí from the french pie du grue) and maybe with Gruyere - the cheese, although this second one is not very clear. Maybe the Swiss village of Gruyeres was a place with lots of cranes.
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They are indeed related:




... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:





  • Kran en alemán,


  • crane en inglés,


  • grua en catalán,


  • grue en francés,


  • gru en italiano;


todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.





  • Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)




Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:



enter image description here



Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.






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    RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
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    Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
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They are indeed related:




... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:





  • Kran en alemán,


  • crane en inglés,


  • grua en catalán,


  • grue en francés,


  • gru en italiano;


todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.





  • Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)




Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:



enter image description here



Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.






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    RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
    – Charlie
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    Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
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They are indeed related:




... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:





  • Kran en alemán,


  • crane en inglés,


  • grua en catalán,


  • grue en francés,


  • gru en italiano;


todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.





  • Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)




Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:



enter image description here



Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.






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    RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
    – Charlie
    yesterday






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    Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
    – user3445853
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They are indeed related:




... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:





  • Kran en alemán,


  • crane en inglés,


  • grua en catalán,


  • grue en francés,


  • gru en italiano;


todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.





  • Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)




Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:



enter image description here



Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.






share|improve this answer














They are indeed related:




... grúa, utilizada en castellano desde el siglo XV para designar una máquina destinada a levantar pesos, por su semejanza con la figura de una grulla, de largo pescuezo y prolongado pico. Mucho más clara que en español resalta esta semejanza entre la grulla y las grúas para nuestros vecinos europeos, que en sus idiomas disponen de una única palabra para designar ambos conceptos:





  • Kran en alemán,


  • crane en inglés,


  • grua en catalán,


  • grue en francés,


  • gru en italiano;


todos ellos, por cierto, de origen tan netamente onomatopéyico como nuestra grulla.





  • Parentescos sorprendentes: grúa y grulla (elcastellano.org)




Further, they are even cognate to the English words via a PIE root:



enter image description here



Interestingly, in Latin another mechanical device (a type of siege engine) was also named for its word for crane, "grus", due to the physical likeness.







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    RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
    – Charlie
    yesterday






  • 1




    Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
    – user3445853
    yesterday














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    RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
    – Charlie
    yesterday






  • 1




    Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
    – user3445853
    yesterday








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RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
yesterday




RAE's dictionary confirms this, both grulla and grúa come from Latin grus, gruis 'crane'.
– Charlie
yesterday




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Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
– user3445853
yesterday




Dutch seemingly distinguishes (mechanical) "crane" from "crane bird" (kraan/ kraanvogel), but that addition of "-bird" is relatively recent; same with the German bird "kranich" where many birds get the "-ich" suffix; the bird name precedes the tool and hence its name. The root in germanic seems onomatopaeic for the noise they make, similar to the Greek root for stork.
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