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Write a bijection to match the set of positive integers with the set of positive
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e.g. $$1mapsto1,2mapsto2, 3mapsto3, 4mapsto 5, 5mapsto , 6mapsto 7, 7mapsto9, dots $$



I don't have any idea where to start the process of defining such a bijection.
And is it possible to define more than one bijection for the particular question above?










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Write a bijection to match the set of positive integers with the set of positive
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e.g. $$1mapsto1,2mapsto2, 3mapsto3, 4mapsto 5, 5mapsto , 6mapsto 7, 7mapsto9, dots $$



I don't have any idea where to start the process of defining such a bijection.
And is it possible to define more than one bijection for the particular question above?










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Write a bijection to match the set of positive integers with the set of positive
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e.g. $$1mapsto1,2mapsto2, 3mapsto3, 4mapsto 5, 5mapsto , 6mapsto 7, 7mapsto9, dots $$



I don't have any idea where to start the process of defining such a bijection.
And is it possible to define more than one bijection for the particular question above?










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Write a bijection to match the set of positive integers with the set of positive
integers excluding the multiples of 4.



e.g. $$1mapsto1,2mapsto2, 3mapsto3, 4mapsto 5, 5mapsto , 6mapsto 7, 7mapsto9, dots $$



I don't have any idea where to start the process of defining such a bijection.
And is it possible to define more than one bijection for the particular question above?







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    Hey Kaan! Nice question! One note though, when posting questions to Math.SE, I'd like to invite you to consider including your thoughts/attempts on solving the problem, (even if you have your doubts). For example, you wrote that you don't have any idea on where to start on this problem-- an explanation as to why you feel/think you're stuck would be sufficient! It helps show question answerers goodwill and makes for high quality questions. We appreciate you joining our community and good luck in the future!
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    Hey Kaan! Nice question! One note though, when posting questions to Math.SE, I'd like to invite you to consider including your thoughts/attempts on solving the problem, (even if you have your doubts). For example, you wrote that you don't have any idea on where to start on this problem-- an explanation as to why you feel/think you're stuck would be sufficient! It helps show question answerers goodwill and makes for high quality questions. We appreciate you joining our community and good luck in the future!
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For example you can try
$$f(n)=n + lfloor (n-1)/3rfloor.$$
Does it work? Are you able to find another bijection?



As a bonus question, find a bijection from the set of of positive integers with the set of positive integers excluding the multiples of a given integer $m>1$.






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  • How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:24










  • I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
    – Robert Z
    Nov 16 at 18:28










  • The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:29










  • It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32










  • I did verify it, it works pretty well.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32











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For example you can try
$$f(n)=n + lfloor (n-1)/3rfloor.$$
Does it work? Are you able to find another bijection?



As a bonus question, find a bijection from the set of of positive integers with the set of positive integers excluding the multiples of a given integer $m>1$.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:24










  • I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
    – Robert Z
    Nov 16 at 18:28










  • The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:29










  • It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32










  • I did verify it, it works pretty well.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32















up vote
1
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For example you can try
$$f(n)=n + lfloor (n-1)/3rfloor.$$
Does it work? Are you able to find another bijection?



As a bonus question, find a bijection from the set of of positive integers with the set of positive integers excluding the multiples of a given integer $m>1$.






share|cite|improve this answer























  • How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:24










  • I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
    – Robert Z
    Nov 16 at 18:28










  • The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:29










  • It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32










  • I did verify it, it works pretty well.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32













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up vote
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For example you can try
$$f(n)=n + lfloor (n-1)/3rfloor.$$
Does it work? Are you able to find another bijection?



As a bonus question, find a bijection from the set of of positive integers with the set of positive integers excluding the multiples of a given integer $m>1$.






share|cite|improve this answer














For example you can try
$$f(n)=n + lfloor (n-1)/3rfloor.$$
Does it work? Are you able to find another bijection?



As a bonus question, find a bijection from the set of of positive integers with the set of positive integers excluding the multiples of a given integer $m>1$.







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  • How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:24










  • I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
    – Robert Z
    Nov 16 at 18:28










  • The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:29










  • It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32










  • I did verify it, it works pretty well.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32


















  • How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:24










  • I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
    – Robert Z
    Nov 16 at 18:28










  • The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:29










  • It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32










  • I did verify it, it works pretty well.
    – user616589
    Nov 16 at 18:32
















How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:24




How did you find the bijection though? Is there a general process for defining a bijection for any given sets?
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:24












I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
– Robert Z
Nov 16 at 18:28




I don't think there is a general rule. Why don't you try to find another bijection? Take a bijection from the set of of positive integers onto itself different from the identity and...
– Robert Z
Nov 16 at 18:28












The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:29




The function works pretty well by the way, thanks.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:29












It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:32




It's just that everytime I see a question like this, all I can do is try to match the values in the domain with the ones in the codomain and define a function out of it randomly, thought maybe there is an algorithm that I can stick through but there is no such a thing appearently.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:32












I did verify it, it works pretty well.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:32




I did verify it, it works pretty well.
– user616589
Nov 16 at 18:32


















 

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