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Find coordinate in first quadrant which tangent line to $x^3-xy+y^3=0$ has slope 0



First, I do implicit differentiation:



$frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=y'$



so I look at the numerator and go hmmm if i put in (1,3) that makes the slope 0.



But then I graph it on a software and i get the following image-



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Clearly, this is an incorrect point. I did double check that the eqn i typed in was correct and that i did the implicit differentiation right










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    Find coordinate in first quadrant which tangent line to $x^3-xy+y^3=0$ has slope 0



    First, I do implicit differentiation:



    $frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=y'$



    so I look at the numerator and go hmmm if i put in (1,3) that makes the slope 0.



    But then I graph it on a software and i get the following image-



    enter image description here



    Clearly, this is an incorrect point. I did double check that the eqn i typed in was correct and that i did the implicit differentiation right










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      Find coordinate in first quadrant which tangent line to $x^3-xy+y^3=0$ has slope 0



      First, I do implicit differentiation:



      $frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=y'$



      so I look at the numerator and go hmmm if i put in (1,3) that makes the slope 0.



      But then I graph it on a software and i get the following image-



      enter image description here



      Clearly, this is an incorrect point. I did double check that the eqn i typed in was correct and that i did the implicit differentiation right










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      Find coordinate in first quadrant which tangent line to $x^3-xy+y^3=0$ has slope 0



      First, I do implicit differentiation:



      $frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=y'$



      so I look at the numerator and go hmmm if i put in (1,3) that makes the slope 0.



      But then I graph it on a software and i get the following image-



      enter image description here



      Clearly, this is an incorrect point. I did double check that the eqn i typed in was correct and that i did the implicit differentiation right







      calculus derivatives implicit-differentiation






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          We have that



          $$x^3-xy+y^3=0implies 3x^2dx-dx-xdy+3y^2dy=0 implies frac{dy}{dx}=frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=0$$



          that is



          $$3x^2=y implies (x,y)=(t,3t^2)$$



          $$x^3-xy+y^3=0 iff t^3-3t^3+27t^6=0iff t^3(27t^3-2)=0$$



          that is



          $$(x,y)=left(frac{sqrt[3]2}{3},sqrt[3]4right)$$






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          • sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
            – John Rawls
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          • @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
            – gimusi
            Nov 20 at 22:00


















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          You solved only half of the problem. You have that the derivative is $0$, but you also need to use the fact that the point is on the graph of your line. You have two equations with two unknowns. Since they are not linear equations, you might have multiple solutions.



          Just plug in $y=3x^2$ into your original equation, and solve for $x$






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            We have that



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0implies 3x^2dx-dx-xdy+3y^2dy=0 implies frac{dy}{dx}=frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=0$$



            that is



            $$3x^2=y implies (x,y)=(t,3t^2)$$



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0 iff t^3-3t^3+27t^6=0iff t^3(27t^3-2)=0$$



            that is



            $$(x,y)=left(frac{sqrt[3]2}{3},sqrt[3]4right)$$






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            • sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
              – John Rawls
              Nov 20 at 21:58










            • @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
              – gimusi
              Nov 20 at 22:00















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            We have that



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0implies 3x^2dx-dx-xdy+3y^2dy=0 implies frac{dy}{dx}=frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=0$$



            that is



            $$3x^2=y implies (x,y)=(t,3t^2)$$



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0 iff t^3-3t^3+27t^6=0iff t^3(27t^3-2)=0$$



            that is



            $$(x,y)=left(frac{sqrt[3]2}{3},sqrt[3]4right)$$






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            • sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
              – John Rawls
              Nov 20 at 21:58










            • @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
              – gimusi
              Nov 20 at 22:00













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            We have that



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0implies 3x^2dx-dx-xdy+3y^2dy=0 implies frac{dy}{dx}=frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=0$$



            that is



            $$3x^2=y implies (x,y)=(t,3t^2)$$



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0 iff t^3-3t^3+27t^6=0iff t^3(27t^3-2)=0$$



            that is



            $$(x,y)=left(frac{sqrt[3]2}{3},sqrt[3]4right)$$






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            We have that



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0implies 3x^2dx-dx-xdy+3y^2dy=0 implies frac{dy}{dx}=frac{3x^2-y}{x-3y^2}=0$$



            that is



            $$3x^2=y implies (x,y)=(t,3t^2)$$



            $$x^3-xy+y^3=0 iff t^3-3t^3+27t^6=0iff t^3(27t^3-2)=0$$



            that is



            $$(x,y)=left(frac{sqrt[3]2}{3},sqrt[3]4right)$$







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            answered Nov 20 at 21:56









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            • sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
              – John Rawls
              Nov 20 at 21:58










            • @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
              – gimusi
              Nov 20 at 22:00


















            • sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
              – John Rawls
              Nov 20 at 21:58










            • @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
              – gimusi
              Nov 20 at 22:00
















            sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
            – John Rawls
            Nov 20 at 21:58




            sorry i dont understand what the T is? because this isnt a parametric question right?
            – John Rawls
            Nov 20 at 21:58












            @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
            – gimusi
            Nov 20 at 22:00




            @JohnRawls The condition $y=3x^2$ corresponds to a parabola, we need to find the intersection with the curve to find the point.
            – gimusi
            Nov 20 at 22:00










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            1
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            You solved only half of the problem. You have that the derivative is $0$, but you also need to use the fact that the point is on the graph of your line. You have two equations with two unknowns. Since they are not linear equations, you might have multiple solutions.



            Just plug in $y=3x^2$ into your original equation, and solve for $x$






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              You solved only half of the problem. You have that the derivative is $0$, but you also need to use the fact that the point is on the graph of your line. You have two equations with two unknowns. Since they are not linear equations, you might have multiple solutions.



              Just plug in $y=3x^2$ into your original equation, and solve for $x$






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                You solved only half of the problem. You have that the derivative is $0$, but you also need to use the fact that the point is on the graph of your line. You have two equations with two unknowns. Since they are not linear equations, you might have multiple solutions.



                Just plug in $y=3x^2$ into your original equation, and solve for $x$






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                You solved only half of the problem. You have that the derivative is $0$, but you also need to use the fact that the point is on the graph of your line. You have two equations with two unknowns. Since they are not linear equations, you might have multiple solutions.



                Just plug in $y=3x^2$ into your original equation, and solve for $x$







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                answered Nov 20 at 22:00









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