Fibers Under a Covering Map are Discrete Subspaces of the Domain












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In Munkres' topology book, the following claim is made:




If $p : E to B$ is a covering map, then for every $b in B$, $p^{-1}(b)$ is a discrete subspace of $E$.




Here's my attempt at a proof:




Given $b in B$, there's an open set $U ni b$ and disjoint open sets ${V_i}_{i in I}$ in $X$ such that $p^{-1}(U) = bigcup_{i in I} V_i$ and such that $p big|_{V_i} : V_i to U$ is a homeomorphism. Hence, if $x in p^{-1}(b) subseteq p^{-1}(U)$, then $x in V_i$ for some $i in I$. If $y in p^{-1}(b) cap V_i$, then $p(y) = b$ and $y in V_i$. But $p big|_{V_i}$ is, in particular, injective so $p big|_{V_i}(x) = b = p big|_{V_i}(y)$ implies $x=y$. This shows $p^{-1}(b) cap V_i = {x}$, proving that ${x}$ is open in $p^{-1}(b)$.




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    It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
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    Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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In Munkres' topology book, the following claim is made:




If $p : E to B$ is a covering map, then for every $b in B$, $p^{-1}(b)$ is a discrete subspace of $E$.




Here's my attempt at a proof:




Given $b in B$, there's an open set $U ni b$ and disjoint open sets ${V_i}_{i in I}$ in $X$ such that $p^{-1}(U) = bigcup_{i in I} V_i$ and such that $p big|_{V_i} : V_i to U$ is a homeomorphism. Hence, if $x in p^{-1}(b) subseteq p^{-1}(U)$, then $x in V_i$ for some $i in I$. If $y in p^{-1}(b) cap V_i$, then $p(y) = b$ and $y in V_i$. But $p big|_{V_i}$ is, in particular, injective so $p big|_{V_i}(x) = b = p big|_{V_i}(y)$ implies $x=y$. This shows $p^{-1}(b) cap V_i = {x}$, proving that ${x}$ is open in $p^{-1}(b)$.




Does this seem right?










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    It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
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    – Dog_69
    Dec 11 '18 at 22:48










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    Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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    – zoidberg
    Dec 11 '18 at 23:59














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In Munkres' topology book, the following claim is made:




If $p : E to B$ is a covering map, then for every $b in B$, $p^{-1}(b)$ is a discrete subspace of $E$.




Here's my attempt at a proof:




Given $b in B$, there's an open set $U ni b$ and disjoint open sets ${V_i}_{i in I}$ in $X$ such that $p^{-1}(U) = bigcup_{i in I} V_i$ and such that $p big|_{V_i} : V_i to U$ is a homeomorphism. Hence, if $x in p^{-1}(b) subseteq p^{-1}(U)$, then $x in V_i$ for some $i in I$. If $y in p^{-1}(b) cap V_i$, then $p(y) = b$ and $y in V_i$. But $p big|_{V_i}$ is, in particular, injective so $p big|_{V_i}(x) = b = p big|_{V_i}(y)$ implies $x=y$. This shows $p^{-1}(b) cap V_i = {x}$, proving that ${x}$ is open in $p^{-1}(b)$.




Does this seem right?










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In Munkres' topology book, the following claim is made:




If $p : E to B$ is a covering map, then for every $b in B$, $p^{-1}(b)$ is a discrete subspace of $E$.




Here's my attempt at a proof:




Given $b in B$, there's an open set $U ni b$ and disjoint open sets ${V_i}_{i in I}$ in $X$ such that $p^{-1}(U) = bigcup_{i in I} V_i$ and such that $p big|_{V_i} : V_i to U$ is a homeomorphism. Hence, if $x in p^{-1}(b) subseteq p^{-1}(U)$, then $x in V_i$ for some $i in I$. If $y in p^{-1}(b) cap V_i$, then $p(y) = b$ and $y in V_i$. But $p big|_{V_i}$ is, in particular, injective so $p big|_{V_i}(x) = b = p big|_{V_i}(y)$ implies $x=y$. This shows $p^{-1}(b) cap V_i = {x}$, proving that ${x}$ is open in $p^{-1}(b)$.




Does this seem right?







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    It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
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    – Dog_69
    Dec 11 '18 at 22:48










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    Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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    – zoidberg
    Dec 11 '18 at 23:59


















  • $begingroup$
    It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
    $endgroup$
    – Dog_69
    Dec 11 '18 at 22:48










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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    – zoidberg
    Dec 11 '18 at 23:59
















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It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
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– Dog_69
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48




$begingroup$
It seems fine for me, but let the experts talk.
$endgroup$
– Dog_69
Dec 11 '18 at 22:48












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Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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– zoidberg
Dec 11 '18 at 23:59




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Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate by projection.
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I'm just going to put this as an answer since the OP has basically answered his/her own question perfectly.



Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate (the set $U$) by projection. Small quibble: I think $X$ should be $E$.






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    I'm just going to put this as an answer since the OP has basically answered his/her own question perfectly.



    Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate (the set $U$) by projection. Small quibble: I think $X$ should be $E$.






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      I'm just going to put this as an answer since the OP has basically answered his/her own question perfectly.



      Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate (the set $U$) by projection. Small quibble: I think $X$ should be $E$.






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        I'm just going to put this as an answer since the OP has basically answered his/her own question perfectly.



        Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate (the set $U$) by projection. Small quibble: I think $X$ should be $E$.






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        I'm just going to put this as an answer since the OP has basically answered his/her own question perfectly.



        Yes, the intuition is to imagine the $V_i$ as a stack of pancakes that get mapped down to the plate (the set $U$) by projection. Small quibble: I think $X$ should be $E$.







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