What's an appropriate phrasing of a caveat about self-citation?












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I'm writing some report, and at a certain point I give an example by citation. The citation format is such that you don't see any names (e.g. "[123]") without visiting the bibliography; or maybe it's just initials. And I wasn't the only author. I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere. At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.



What's a good way to phrase this limite-caveat/weak-warning?



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  • I'm currently writing alone, am not using the first-person voice at all, and have just a handful third-person "it is the author's opinion that" and similar expressions.

  • I can't presume to individually take the credit for the work in [123] which was a group effort.










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  • Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

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  • @Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

    – einpoklum
    11 hours ago






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    The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

    – JeffE
    11 hours ago











  • Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

    – user2768
    11 hours ago













  • @JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

    – einpoklum
    4 hours ago
















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I'm writing some report, and at a certain point I give an example by citation. The citation format is such that you don't see any names (e.g. "[123]") without visiting the bibliography; or maybe it's just initials. And I wasn't the only author. I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere. At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.



What's a good way to phrase this limite-caveat/weak-warning?



Note:




  • I'm currently writing alone, am not using the first-person voice at all, and have just a handful third-person "it is the author's opinion that" and similar expressions.

  • I can't presume to individually take the credit for the work in [123] which was a group effort.










share|improve this question

























  • Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

    – Guest
    11 hours ago











  • @Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

    – einpoklum
    11 hours ago






  • 4





    The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

    – JeffE
    11 hours ago











  • Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

    – user2768
    11 hours ago













  • @JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

    – einpoklum
    4 hours ago














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I'm writing some report, and at a certain point I give an example by citation. The citation format is such that you don't see any names (e.g. "[123]") without visiting the bibliography; or maybe it's just initials. And I wasn't the only author. I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere. At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.



What's a good way to phrase this limite-caveat/weak-warning?



Note:




  • I'm currently writing alone, am not using the first-person voice at all, and have just a handful third-person "it is the author's opinion that" and similar expressions.

  • I can't presume to individually take the credit for the work in [123] which was a group effort.










share|improve this question
















I'm writing some report, and at a certain point I give an example by citation. The citation format is such that you don't see any names (e.g. "[123]") without visiting the bibliography; or maybe it's just initials. And I wasn't the only author. I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere. At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.



What's a good way to phrase this limite-caveat/weak-warning?



Note:




  • I'm currently writing alone, am not using the first-person voice at all, and have just a handful third-person "it is the author's opinion that" and similar expressions.

  • I can't presume to individually take the credit for the work in [123] which was a group effort.







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  • Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

    – Guest
    11 hours ago











  • @Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

    – einpoklum
    11 hours ago






  • 4





    The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

    – JeffE
    11 hours ago











  • Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

    – user2768
    11 hours ago













  • @JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

    – einpoklum
    4 hours ago



















  • Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

    – Guest
    11 hours ago











  • @Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

    – einpoklum
    11 hours ago






  • 4





    The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

    – JeffE
    11 hours ago











  • Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

    – user2768
    11 hours ago













  • @JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

    – einpoklum
    4 hours ago

















Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

– Guest
11 hours ago





Could you write it like "we did this in [123]"?

– Guest
11 hours ago













@Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

– einpoklum
11 hours ago





@Guest: The "we" in [123] is myself and some others; but what I'm writing now is just me.

– einpoklum
11 hours ago




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The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

– JeffE
11 hours ago





The citation format is such that you don't see any names — So don't do that. One simple fix (which I strongly recommend for other reasons) is to give people explicit credit in the text. "The previous best algorithm for factoring roosters, discovered independently by Knuth [42] and Turing [222], was recently surpassed by Rozenberg [123]."

– JeffE
11 hours ago













Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

– user2768
11 hours ago







Following from @Guest, alternatives include: In collaboration with X & Y, I ... [123] (you can drop "In collaboration" if you like) or Myself et al. [123] (particularly useful if you were the first author, but still works if you weren't).

– user2768
11 hours ago















@JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

– einpoklum
4 hours ago





@JeffE: The style of using people's names in the text or in citation keys is essentially unheard of in my discipline.

– einpoklum
4 hours ago










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I doubt that you need to do anything at all that you wouldn't do for any other paper or author. I think self-citation is really only an issue when it is overdone and/or no one else agrees with you.



But if they (hopefully) believe what you are writing at present, they don't need to be "warned" that you also wrote something similar or supporting in the past.



If you normally say "Smith in [3] says,..." and you are Jones, then you can say "Jones in [5] implies..." or similar. There are other answer/comments here that give other suggestions if you really think you need to be more specific.






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    "In previous work [1-3] the author showed that ..."
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    With phrases like that I never had a complaint from a peer-reviewer.






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    • The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

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      It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

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    • One of the authors, together with others, has done something of note in [123].


    • A, B and C also claim this and that [123].



    That said, you can probably leave the warning off the paper. Anyone interested in the claim will check the supporting source for credibility, or at least they ought to. If you do not believe in the claim, qualify the claim as is relevant for how credible you think it is: Call it a conjecture or guess, write that the claim has been suggested or is worth investigating, or whatever you feel is true. Then write that the other paper (also) supports the claim.






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      I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere.




      Unless there’s something specific about the context that you’re not telling us that makes this a good idea, in general I see no need for such a warning. Your readers are capable of thinking for themselves. They will look at the citation, see what it says, think about it (taking various pieces of information into account, including the knowledge of who wrote it), and decide if they agree with it. The fact that it’s a self-citation is basically irrelevant from the point of view of the way you should be presenting things. Treat it as a citation to any other work by any other person.




      At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.




      Those are somewhat valid concerns, but at the end of the day again my recommendation is to write whatever you would write if the cited paper was written by anyone else: if it deserves to be praised, praise it, if it deserves to be disparaged, disparage it, and if you think it should be referred to using a neutral tone, then mention it in a neutral tone. If you are acting in good faith and aren’t saying something that’s obviously over the top and ego-driven, reasonable people will not find fault with what you wrote.






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      • If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

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      • @einpoklum agreed.

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      I doubt that you need to do anything at all that you wouldn't do for any other paper or author. I think self-citation is really only an issue when it is overdone and/or no one else agrees with you.



      But if they (hopefully) believe what you are writing at present, they don't need to be "warned" that you also wrote something similar or supporting in the past.



      If you normally say "Smith in [3] says,..." and you are Jones, then you can say "Jones in [5] implies..." or similar. There are other answer/comments here that give other suggestions if you really think you need to be more specific.






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        I doubt that you need to do anything at all that you wouldn't do for any other paper or author. I think self-citation is really only an issue when it is overdone and/or no one else agrees with you.



        But if they (hopefully) believe what you are writing at present, they don't need to be "warned" that you also wrote something similar or supporting in the past.



        If you normally say "Smith in [3] says,..." and you are Jones, then you can say "Jones in [5] implies..." or similar. There are other answer/comments here that give other suggestions if you really think you need to be more specific.






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          I doubt that you need to do anything at all that you wouldn't do for any other paper or author. I think self-citation is really only an issue when it is overdone and/or no one else agrees with you.



          But if they (hopefully) believe what you are writing at present, they don't need to be "warned" that you also wrote something similar or supporting in the past.



          If you normally say "Smith in [3] says,..." and you are Jones, then you can say "Jones in [5] implies..." or similar. There are other answer/comments here that give other suggestions if you really think you need to be more specific.






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          I doubt that you need to do anything at all that you wouldn't do for any other paper or author. I think self-citation is really only an issue when it is overdone and/or no one else agrees with you.



          But if they (hopefully) believe what you are writing at present, they don't need to be "warned" that you also wrote something similar or supporting in the past.



          If you normally say "Smith in [3] says,..." and you are Jones, then you can say "Jones in [5] implies..." or similar. There are other answer/comments here that give other suggestions if you really think you need to be more specific.







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              "In previous work [1-3] the author showed that ..."
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              With phrases like that I never had a complaint from a peer-reviewer.






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              • The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

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                It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

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              "In previous work [1-3] the author showed that ..."
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              With phrases like that I never had a complaint from a peer-reviewer.






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              • The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

                – einpoklum
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                It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

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              "In previous work [1-3] the author showed that ..."
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              With phrases like that I never had a complaint from a peer-reviewer.






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              With phrases like that I never had a complaint from a peer-reviewer.







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              • The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

                – einpoklum
                10 hours ago






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                It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

                – Buffy
                10 hours ago



















              • The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

                – einpoklum
                10 hours ago






              • 1





                It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

                – Buffy
                10 hours ago

















              The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

              – einpoklum
              10 hours ago





              The wording suggests that in [123], I did all the work and the other authors didn't really contribute much.

              – einpoklum
              10 hours ago




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              It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

              – Buffy
              10 hours ago





              It is easy enough to use the variation: "In previous work [1-3] the author, et. al., showed that ..."

              – Buffy
              10 hours ago











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              • One of the authors, together with others, has done something of note in [123].


              • A, B and C also claim this and that [123].



              That said, you can probably leave the warning off the paper. Anyone interested in the claim will check the supporting source for credibility, or at least they ought to. If you do not believe in the claim, qualify the claim as is relevant for how credible you think it is: Call it a conjecture or guess, write that the claim has been suggested or is worth investigating, or whatever you feel is true. Then write that the other paper (also) supports the claim.






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                • One of the authors, together with others, has done something of note in [123].


                • A, B and C also claim this and that [123].



                That said, you can probably leave the warning off the paper. Anyone interested in the claim will check the supporting source for credibility, or at least they ought to. If you do not believe in the claim, qualify the claim as is relevant for how credible you think it is: Call it a conjecture or guess, write that the claim has been suggested or is worth investigating, or whatever you feel is true. Then write that the other paper (also) supports the claim.






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                  • One of the authors, together with others, has done something of note in [123].


                  • A, B and C also claim this and that [123].



                  That said, you can probably leave the warning off the paper. Anyone interested in the claim will check the supporting source for credibility, or at least they ought to. If you do not believe in the claim, qualify the claim as is relevant for how credible you think it is: Call it a conjecture or guess, write that the claim has been suggested or is worth investigating, or whatever you feel is true. Then write that the other paper (also) supports the claim.






                  share|improve this answer














                  • One of the authors, together with others, has done something of note in [123].


                  • A, B and C also claim this and that [123].



                  That said, you can probably leave the warning off the paper. Anyone interested in the claim will check the supporting source for credibility, or at least they ought to. If you do not believe in the claim, qualify the claim as is relevant for how credible you think it is: Call it a conjecture or guess, write that the claim has been suggested or is worth investigating, or whatever you feel is true. Then write that the other paper (also) supports the claim.







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                      I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere.




                      Unless there’s something specific about the context that you’re not telling us that makes this a good idea, in general I see no need for such a warning. Your readers are capable of thinking for themselves. They will look at the citation, see what it says, think about it (taking various pieces of information into account, including the knowledge of who wrote it), and decide if they agree with it. The fact that it’s a self-citation is basically irrelevant from the point of view of the way you should be presenting things. Treat it as a citation to any other work by any other person.




                      At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.




                      Those are somewhat valid concerns, but at the end of the day again my recommendation is to write whatever you would write if the cited paper was written by anyone else: if it deserves to be praised, praise it, if it deserves to be disparaged, disparage it, and if you think it should be referred to using a neutral tone, then mention it in a neutral tone. If you are acting in good faith and aren’t saying something that’s obviously over the top and ego-driven, reasonable people will not find fault with what you wrote.






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                      • If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                        – einpoklum
                        4 hours ago











                      • @einpoklum agreed.

                        – Dan Romik
                        4 hours ago
















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                      I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere.




                      Unless there’s something specific about the context that you’re not telling us that makes this a good idea, in general I see no need for such a warning. Your readers are capable of thinking for themselves. They will look at the citation, see what it says, think about it (taking various pieces of information into account, including the knowledge of who wrote it), and decide if they agree with it. The fact that it’s a self-citation is basically irrelevant from the point of view of the way you should be presenting things. Treat it as a citation to any other work by any other person.




                      At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.




                      Those are somewhat valid concerns, but at the end of the day again my recommendation is to write whatever you would write if the cited paper was written by anyone else: if it deserves to be praised, praise it, if it deserves to be disparaged, disparage it, and if you think it should be referred to using a neutral tone, then mention it in a neutral tone. If you are acting in good faith and aren’t saying something that’s obviously over the top and ego-driven, reasonable people will not find fault with what you wrote.






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                      • If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                        – einpoklum
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                      • @einpoklum agreed.

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                      I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere.




                      Unless there’s something specific about the context that you’re not telling us that makes this a good idea, in general I see no need for such a warning. Your readers are capable of thinking for themselves. They will look at the citation, see what it says, think about it (taking various pieces of information into account, including the knowledge of who wrote it), and decide if they agree with it. The fact that it’s a self-citation is basically irrelevant from the point of view of the way you should be presenting things. Treat it as a citation to any other work by any other person.




                      At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.




                      Those are somewhat valid concerns, but at the end of the day again my recommendation is to write whatever you would write if the cited paper was written by anyone else: if it deserves to be praised, praise it, if it deserves to be disparaged, disparage it, and if you think it should be referred to using a neutral tone, then mention it in a neutral tone. If you are acting in good faith and aren’t saying something that’s obviously over the top and ego-driven, reasonable people will not find fault with what you wrote.






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                      I would like to "warn" my readers to take the citation with a grain of salt, as I am relying on what is at least partly, if not mostly, my own perspective or my own arguments elsewhere.




                      Unless there’s something specific about the context that you’re not telling us that makes this a good idea, in general I see no need for such a warning. Your readers are capable of thinking for themselves. They will look at the citation, see what it says, think about it (taking various pieces of information into account, including the knowledge of who wrote it), and decide if they agree with it. The fact that it’s a self-citation is basically irrelevant from the point of view of the way you should be presenting things. Treat it as a citation to any other work by any other person.




                      At the same time, I don't want it to sound like I'm boasting about being an author; nor that I'm making a stronger pitch of the cited paper; nor that I'm disparaging it somehow.




                      Those are somewhat valid concerns, but at the end of the day again my recommendation is to write whatever you would write if the cited paper was written by anyone else: if it deserves to be praised, praise it, if it deserves to be disparaged, disparage it, and if you think it should be referred to using a neutral tone, then mention it in a neutral tone. If you are acting in good faith and aren’t saying something that’s obviously over the top and ego-driven, reasonable people will not find fault with what you wrote.







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                      • If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                        – einpoklum
                        4 hours ago











                      • @einpoklum agreed.

                        – Dan Romik
                        4 hours ago



















                      • If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                        – einpoklum
                        4 hours ago











                      • @einpoklum agreed.

                        – Dan Romik
                        4 hours ago

















                      If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                      – einpoklum
                      4 hours ago





                      If you're saying that there is already some work on a subject, but it's just your (and your collaborators') work, it's different than saying that there's community interest, for example.

                      – einpoklum
                      4 hours ago













                      @einpoklum agreed.

                      – Dan Romik
                      4 hours ago





                      @einpoklum agreed.

                      – Dan Romik
                      4 hours ago


















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