Evaluating $lim_{nrightarrowinfty} n[(1+frac{1}{n})^{n+1} - e]$
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How can I show, preferably with elementary methods, that $$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = frac{e}{2}$$? All that would suffice for me is to show that the limit exists and is not negative. I've tried toying with binomial expansion but it didn't amount to anything unfortunately.
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How can I show, preferably with elementary methods, that $$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = frac{e}{2}$$? All that would suffice for me is to show that the limit exists and is not negative. I've tried toying with binomial expansion but it didn't amount to anything unfortunately.
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:36
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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– Paramanand Singh
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How can I show, preferably with elementary methods, that $$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = frac{e}{2}$$? All that would suffice for me is to show that the limit exists and is not negative. I've tried toying with binomial expansion but it didn't amount to anything unfortunately.
calculus limits
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How can I show, preferably with elementary methods, that $$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = frac{e}{2}$$? All that would suffice for me is to show that the limit exists and is not negative. I've tried toying with binomial expansion but it didn't amount to anything unfortunately.
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edited Dec 26 '18 at 22:30
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:36
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 27 '18 at 0:31
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:36
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 27 '18 at 0:31
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:36
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:36
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 27 '18 at 0:31
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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With usual Taylor expansions calculate:
$nleft((1+frac 1n)^{n+1}-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)ln(1+frac 1n))-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n-frac 1{2n^2}+o(frac 1{n^2})))-eright)\=nleft(exp(frac 1n-underbrace{frac 1{2n^2}}_{(*)=0}+1-frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\require{cancel}=nleft(cancel{e}+frac e{2n}+o(frac 1n)-cancel{e}right)
\=frac e{2}+o(1)to frac e2
$
(*) this term is too small for the resulting $o(frac 1n)$ thus it is simply ignored in this expansion.
About the comment of Rakibul Islam Prince:
What is wrong is that you take the limit of $(1+frac 1n)^n$ inside the calculation. Have you noticed the limit operator is exterior.
You cannot take partial limits as you wish.
In fact doing this is equivalent to ignoring the term $-frac 1{2n}$ coming from order $2$ in log expansion in my calculation.
In essence if you take the limit inside this would give
$$left(1+frac 1nright)^nleft(1+frac 1nright)-e=(e)(1)-e=0$$
Notice the second $1+frac 1n$ actually cannot stand as is.
Indeed, the correct calculation of expanding the logarithm to first order only would give:
$nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n+o(frac 1{n})))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+o(1))-eright)
\=n(e+o(1)-e)
\=0+o(n)$
which has not clear limit.
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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Another (simple) solution involves applying L’Hopital after using $x=frac{1}{n}$ to deduce that your limit is equivalent to $frac{((e^{(1+x)logfrac{1}{x}}-e)}{x} to frac{e}{2} $which after differentiating becomes equivalent to $frac{frac{x}{x+1}-log(1+x)}{x^2} to frac{1}{2}$, for which you apply L’Hopital again and it becomes easy to evaluate, But I assume L’Hopital isn’t really too elementary either? :)
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This is a modification of the answer by Sorin Tirc
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^0}{frac{1}{n}}\= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^1}{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}} $$
Now, since
$$lim_{x to 0} frac{e^x-e^1}{x-1}=e$$ by the definition of the derivative you get
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} e frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}}= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} [(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1]$$
which can easi;y be calculated with L'Hospital.
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Considering$$a_n=nleft(left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}-eright) $$ Consider
$$x=left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}implies log(x)=(n+1)logleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$$ So, using Taylor
$$log(x)=(n+1)left(frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{2 n^2}+frac{1}{3
n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)right)=1+frac{1}{2 n}-frac{1}{6 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$
Continue with Taylor
$$x=e^{log(x)}=e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$ Back to $a_n$
$$a_n=nleft(e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)-eright)=frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{24 n}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^2}right) $$ which shows the limit and also how it is approached.
Try with $n=10$ (which is far away from infinity) and use your pocket calculator
$$a_{10}=frac{285311670611}{10000000000}-10 eapprox 1.34835$$ while the approximation would give $$frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{240}=frac{119 e}{240}approx 1.34781$$
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Let's put $x=1/n$ so that $xto 0^{+}$ and the expression under limit can be written as $$frac{(1+x)^{1+(1/x)}-e}{x}$$ The numerator can be expressed as $$ecdotdfrac{expleft(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right)-1}{dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1} cdot left(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right) $$ and the middle fraction tends to $1$ so that the desired limit is equal to the limit of $$ecdotfrac{(1+x)log(1+x)-x}{x^2}$$ which is same as the limit of $$eleft(frac{log(1+x)}{x}+frac{log(1+x)-x}{x^2}right)$$ The first fraction in parenthesis tends to $1$ while the second one tends to $-1/2$ (via an easy application of L'Hospital's Rule or Taylor series) so that the desired limit is $e/2$.
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With usual Taylor expansions calculate:
$nleft((1+frac 1n)^{n+1}-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)ln(1+frac 1n))-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n-frac 1{2n^2}+o(frac 1{n^2})))-eright)\=nleft(exp(frac 1n-underbrace{frac 1{2n^2}}_{(*)=0}+1-frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\require{cancel}=nleft(cancel{e}+frac e{2n}+o(frac 1n)-cancel{e}right)
\=frac e{2}+o(1)to frac e2
$
(*) this term is too small for the resulting $o(frac 1n)$ thus it is simply ignored in this expansion.
About the comment of Rakibul Islam Prince:
What is wrong is that you take the limit of $(1+frac 1n)^n$ inside the calculation. Have you noticed the limit operator is exterior.
You cannot take partial limits as you wish.
In fact doing this is equivalent to ignoring the term $-frac 1{2n}$ coming from order $2$ in log expansion in my calculation.
In essence if you take the limit inside this would give
$$left(1+frac 1nright)^nleft(1+frac 1nright)-e=(e)(1)-e=0$$
Notice the second $1+frac 1n$ actually cannot stand as is.
Indeed, the correct calculation of expanding the logarithm to first order only would give:
$nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n+o(frac 1{n})))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+o(1))-eright)
\=n(e+o(1)-e)
\=0+o(n)$
which has not clear limit.
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
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With usual Taylor expansions calculate:
$nleft((1+frac 1n)^{n+1}-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)ln(1+frac 1n))-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n-frac 1{2n^2}+o(frac 1{n^2})))-eright)\=nleft(exp(frac 1n-underbrace{frac 1{2n^2}}_{(*)=0}+1-frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\require{cancel}=nleft(cancel{e}+frac e{2n}+o(frac 1n)-cancel{e}right)
\=frac e{2}+o(1)to frac e2
$
(*) this term is too small for the resulting $o(frac 1n)$ thus it is simply ignored in this expansion.
About the comment of Rakibul Islam Prince:
What is wrong is that you take the limit of $(1+frac 1n)^n$ inside the calculation. Have you noticed the limit operator is exterior.
You cannot take partial limits as you wish.
In fact doing this is equivalent to ignoring the term $-frac 1{2n}$ coming from order $2$ in log expansion in my calculation.
In essence if you take the limit inside this would give
$$left(1+frac 1nright)^nleft(1+frac 1nright)-e=(e)(1)-e=0$$
Notice the second $1+frac 1n$ actually cannot stand as is.
Indeed, the correct calculation of expanding the logarithm to first order only would give:
$nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n+o(frac 1{n})))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+o(1))-eright)
\=n(e+o(1)-e)
\=0+o(n)$
which has not clear limit.
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
add a comment |
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With usual Taylor expansions calculate:
$nleft((1+frac 1n)^{n+1}-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)ln(1+frac 1n))-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n-frac 1{2n^2}+o(frac 1{n^2})))-eright)\=nleft(exp(frac 1n-underbrace{frac 1{2n^2}}_{(*)=0}+1-frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\require{cancel}=nleft(cancel{e}+frac e{2n}+o(frac 1n)-cancel{e}right)
\=frac e{2}+o(1)to frac e2
$
(*) this term is too small for the resulting $o(frac 1n)$ thus it is simply ignored in this expansion.
About the comment of Rakibul Islam Prince:
What is wrong is that you take the limit of $(1+frac 1n)^n$ inside the calculation. Have you noticed the limit operator is exterior.
You cannot take partial limits as you wish.
In fact doing this is equivalent to ignoring the term $-frac 1{2n}$ coming from order $2$ in log expansion in my calculation.
In essence if you take the limit inside this would give
$$left(1+frac 1nright)^nleft(1+frac 1nright)-e=(e)(1)-e=0$$
Notice the second $1+frac 1n$ actually cannot stand as is.
Indeed, the correct calculation of expanding the logarithm to first order only would give:
$nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n+o(frac 1{n})))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+o(1))-eright)
\=n(e+o(1)-e)
\=0+o(n)$
which has not clear limit.
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With usual Taylor expansions calculate:
$nleft((1+frac 1n)^{n+1}-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)ln(1+frac 1n))-eright)
\=nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n-frac 1{2n^2}+o(frac 1{n^2})))-eright)\=nleft(exp(frac 1n-underbrace{frac 1{2n^2}}_{(*)=0}+1-frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+frac 1{2n}+o(frac 1n)))-eright)
\require{cancel}=nleft(cancel{e}+frac e{2n}+o(frac 1n)-cancel{e}right)
\=frac e{2}+o(1)to frac e2
$
(*) this term is too small for the resulting $o(frac 1n)$ thus it is simply ignored in this expansion.
About the comment of Rakibul Islam Prince:
What is wrong is that you take the limit of $(1+frac 1n)^n$ inside the calculation. Have you noticed the limit operator is exterior.
You cannot take partial limits as you wish.
In fact doing this is equivalent to ignoring the term $-frac 1{2n}$ coming from order $2$ in log expansion in my calculation.
In essence if you take the limit inside this would give
$$left(1+frac 1nright)^nleft(1+frac 1nright)-e=(e)(1)-e=0$$
Notice the second $1+frac 1n$ actually cannot stand as is.
Indeed, the correct calculation of expanding the logarithm to first order only would give:
$nleft(exp((n+1)(frac 1n+o(frac 1{n})))-eright)
\=nleft(exp(1+o(1))-eright)
\=n(e+o(1)-e)
\=0+o(n)$
which has not clear limit.
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
add a comment |
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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The question is "why can't I take the partial limit"?
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 27 '18 at 11:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
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@RakibulIslamPrince: think why can't you write $sqrt{a+b} =sqrt{a} +sqrt{b} $.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 28 '18 at 3:31
add a comment |
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Another (simple) solution involves applying L’Hopital after using $x=frac{1}{n}$ to deduce that your limit is equivalent to $frac{((e^{(1+x)logfrac{1}{x}}-e)}{x} to frac{e}{2} $which after differentiating becomes equivalent to $frac{frac{x}{x+1}-log(1+x)}{x^2} to frac{1}{2}$, for which you apply L’Hopital again and it becomes easy to evaluate, But I assume L’Hopital isn’t really too elementary either? :)
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Another (simple) solution involves applying L’Hopital after using $x=frac{1}{n}$ to deduce that your limit is equivalent to $frac{((e^{(1+x)logfrac{1}{x}}-e)}{x} to frac{e}{2} $which after differentiating becomes equivalent to $frac{frac{x}{x+1}-log(1+x)}{x^2} to frac{1}{2}$, for which you apply L’Hopital again and it becomes easy to evaluate, But I assume L’Hopital isn’t really too elementary either? :)
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Another (simple) solution involves applying L’Hopital after using $x=frac{1}{n}$ to deduce that your limit is equivalent to $frac{((e^{(1+x)logfrac{1}{x}}-e)}{x} to frac{e}{2} $which after differentiating becomes equivalent to $frac{frac{x}{x+1}-log(1+x)}{x^2} to frac{1}{2}$, for which you apply L’Hopital again and it becomes easy to evaluate, But I assume L’Hopital isn’t really too elementary either? :)
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Another (simple) solution involves applying L’Hopital after using $x=frac{1}{n}$ to deduce that your limit is equivalent to $frac{((e^{(1+x)logfrac{1}{x}}-e)}{x} to frac{e}{2} $which after differentiating becomes equivalent to $frac{frac{x}{x+1}-log(1+x)}{x^2} to frac{1}{2}$, for which you apply L’Hopital again and it becomes easy to evaluate, But I assume L’Hopital isn’t really too elementary either? :)
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answered Dec 26 '18 at 22:45
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This is a modification of the answer by Sorin Tirc
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^0}{frac{1}{n}}\= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^1}{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}} $$
Now, since
$$lim_{x to 0} frac{e^x-e^1}{x-1}=e$$ by the definition of the derivative you get
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} e frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}}= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} [(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1]$$
which can easi;y be calculated with L'Hospital.
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This is a modification of the answer by Sorin Tirc
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^0}{frac{1}{n}}\= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^1}{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}} $$
Now, since
$$lim_{x to 0} frac{e^x-e^1}{x-1}=e$$ by the definition of the derivative you get
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} e frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}}= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} [(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1]$$
which can easi;y be calculated with L'Hospital.
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This is a modification of the answer by Sorin Tirc
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^0}{frac{1}{n}}\= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^1}{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}} $$
Now, since
$$lim_{x to 0} frac{e^x-e^1}{x-1}=e$$ by the definition of the derivative you get
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} e frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}}= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} [(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1]$$
which can easi;y be calculated with L'Hospital.
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This is a modification of the answer by Sorin Tirc
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^0}{frac{1}{n}}\= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{e^{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)} - e^1}{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}} $$
Now, since
$$lim_{x to 0} frac{e^x-e^1}{x-1}=e$$ by the definition of the derivative you get
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty} nleft[left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1} - eright] = lim_{nrightarrowinfty} e frac{(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1}{frac{1}{n}}= lim_{nrightarrowinfty} [(n+1) ln left(1+frac{1}{n}right)-1]$$
which can easi;y be calculated with L'Hospital.
edited Dec 27 '18 at 0:12
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Considering$$a_n=nleft(left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}-eright) $$ Consider
$$x=left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}implies log(x)=(n+1)logleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$$ So, using Taylor
$$log(x)=(n+1)left(frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{2 n^2}+frac{1}{3
n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)right)=1+frac{1}{2 n}-frac{1}{6 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$
Continue with Taylor
$$x=e^{log(x)}=e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$ Back to $a_n$
$$a_n=nleft(e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)-eright)=frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{24 n}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^2}right) $$ which shows the limit and also how it is approached.
Try with $n=10$ (which is far away from infinity) and use your pocket calculator
$$a_{10}=frac{285311670611}{10000000000}-10 eapprox 1.34835$$ while the approximation would give $$frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{240}=frac{119 e}{240}approx 1.34781$$
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Considering$$a_n=nleft(left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}-eright) $$ Consider
$$x=left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}implies log(x)=(n+1)logleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$$ So, using Taylor
$$log(x)=(n+1)left(frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{2 n^2}+frac{1}{3
n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)right)=1+frac{1}{2 n}-frac{1}{6 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$
Continue with Taylor
$$x=e^{log(x)}=e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$ Back to $a_n$
$$a_n=nleft(e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)-eright)=frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{24 n}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^2}right) $$ which shows the limit and also how it is approached.
Try with $n=10$ (which is far away from infinity) and use your pocket calculator
$$a_{10}=frac{285311670611}{10000000000}-10 eapprox 1.34835$$ while the approximation would give $$frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{240}=frac{119 e}{240}approx 1.34781$$
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Considering$$a_n=nleft(left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}-eright) $$ Consider
$$x=left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}implies log(x)=(n+1)logleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$$ So, using Taylor
$$log(x)=(n+1)left(frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{2 n^2}+frac{1}{3
n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)right)=1+frac{1}{2 n}-frac{1}{6 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$
Continue with Taylor
$$x=e^{log(x)}=e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$ Back to $a_n$
$$a_n=nleft(e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)-eright)=frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{24 n}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^2}right) $$ which shows the limit and also how it is approached.
Try with $n=10$ (which is far away from infinity) and use your pocket calculator
$$a_{10}=frac{285311670611}{10000000000}-10 eapprox 1.34835$$ while the approximation would give $$frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{240}=frac{119 e}{240}approx 1.34781$$
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Considering$$a_n=nleft(left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}-eright) $$ Consider
$$x=left(1+frac{1}{n}right)^{n+1}implies log(x)=(n+1)logleft(1+frac{1}{n}right)$$ So, using Taylor
$$log(x)=(n+1)left(frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{2 n^2}+frac{1}{3
n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)right)=1+frac{1}{2 n}-frac{1}{6 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$
Continue with Taylor
$$x=e^{log(x)}=e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)$$ Back to $a_n$
$$a_n=nleft(e+frac{e}{2 n}-frac{e}{24 n^2}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^3}right)-eright)=frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{24 n}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^2}right) $$ which shows the limit and also how it is approached.
Try with $n=10$ (which is far away from infinity) and use your pocket calculator
$$a_{10}=frac{285311670611}{10000000000}-10 eapprox 1.34835$$ while the approximation would give $$frac{e}{2}-frac{e}{240}=frac{119 e}{240}approx 1.34781$$
answered Dec 27 '18 at 4:45
Claude LeiboviciClaude Leibovici
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Let's put $x=1/n$ so that $xto 0^{+}$ and the expression under limit can be written as $$frac{(1+x)^{1+(1/x)}-e}{x}$$ The numerator can be expressed as $$ecdotdfrac{expleft(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right)-1}{dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1} cdot left(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right) $$ and the middle fraction tends to $1$ so that the desired limit is equal to the limit of $$ecdotfrac{(1+x)log(1+x)-x}{x^2}$$ which is same as the limit of $$eleft(frac{log(1+x)}{x}+frac{log(1+x)-x}{x^2}right)$$ The first fraction in parenthesis tends to $1$ while the second one tends to $-1/2$ (via an easy application of L'Hospital's Rule or Taylor series) so that the desired limit is $e/2$.
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Let's put $x=1/n$ so that $xto 0^{+}$ and the expression under limit can be written as $$frac{(1+x)^{1+(1/x)}-e}{x}$$ The numerator can be expressed as $$ecdotdfrac{expleft(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right)-1}{dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1} cdot left(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right) $$ and the middle fraction tends to $1$ so that the desired limit is equal to the limit of $$ecdotfrac{(1+x)log(1+x)-x}{x^2}$$ which is same as the limit of $$eleft(frac{log(1+x)}{x}+frac{log(1+x)-x}{x^2}right)$$ The first fraction in parenthesis tends to $1$ while the second one tends to $-1/2$ (via an easy application of L'Hospital's Rule or Taylor series) so that the desired limit is $e/2$.
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Let's put $x=1/n$ so that $xto 0^{+}$ and the expression under limit can be written as $$frac{(1+x)^{1+(1/x)}-e}{x}$$ The numerator can be expressed as $$ecdotdfrac{expleft(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right)-1}{dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1} cdot left(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right) $$ and the middle fraction tends to $1$ so that the desired limit is equal to the limit of $$ecdotfrac{(1+x)log(1+x)-x}{x^2}$$ which is same as the limit of $$eleft(frac{log(1+x)}{x}+frac{log(1+x)-x}{x^2}right)$$ The first fraction in parenthesis tends to $1$ while the second one tends to $-1/2$ (via an easy application of L'Hospital's Rule or Taylor series) so that the desired limit is $e/2$.
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Let's put $x=1/n$ so that $xto 0^{+}$ and the expression under limit can be written as $$frac{(1+x)^{1+(1/x)}-e}{x}$$ The numerator can be expressed as $$ecdotdfrac{expleft(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right)-1}{dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1} cdot left(dfrac{1+x}{x}log(1+x)-1right) $$ and the middle fraction tends to $1$ so that the desired limit is equal to the limit of $$ecdotfrac{(1+x)log(1+x)-x}{x^2}$$ which is same as the limit of $$eleft(frac{log(1+x)}{x}+frac{log(1+x)-x}{x^2}right)$$ The first fraction in parenthesis tends to $1$ while the second one tends to $-1/2$ (via an easy application of L'Hospital's Rule or Taylor series) so that the desired limit is $e/2$.
answered Dec 27 '18 at 5:23
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Are you sure the answer is $e/2$ instead of $e$?
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– Larry
Dec 26 '18 at 22:32
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That's what Wolfram Alpha suggests. I'm not an expert so I don't doubt Wolfram's answers for problems at my level - if it's wrong, sorry for implying that. link to Wolfram
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– Bag of Chips
Dec 26 '18 at 22:34
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I see, wolfram alpha indeed gives e/2
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– Larry
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I am getting this... $$lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^{n+1}-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(bigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)^nbigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}bigg)-ebigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}nbigg(ebigg(1+frac{1}{n}-1bigg)bigg)$$ $$=lim_{n to infty}n(frac{e}{n})$$ $$=e$$
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– Rakibul Islam Prince
Dec 26 '18 at 23:01
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@RakibulIslamPrince: you cannot replace a part of the expression with its limit in general.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 27 '18 at 0:31