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I have this differential equation :



$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = F_0cos(omega t + Delta)$ with $omega_0^2 = k/m enspace .$



I take the complex equation



$ ddot{z} + omega_0^2 z = F_0e^{i(omega t + Delta)} enspace ,$



assuming an exponential solution : $alpha e^{ut + v}$



I find :



$z_p = alpha e^{ut + v} Leftrightarrow alpha u^2 e^{ut + v} + omega_0^2 alpha e^{ut + v} = F_0 e^{i(omega t + Delta)} $



$Leftrightarrow alpha e^{ut + v} = frac{F_0}{u^2 + omega_0^2} e^{i (omega t + Delta)}$



So $ z_p = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}[cos(omega t + Delta) + i sin(omega t + Delta)]$



and I end up with :



$x_p = Re[z_p] = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



But the book states that a particular solution is :



$ x_p(t) = frac{F_0/m}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



So where did the "m" come from ? Where did I go wrong ?










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    For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
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    Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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I have this differential equation :



$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = F_0cos(omega t + Delta)$ with $omega_0^2 = k/m enspace .$



I take the complex equation



$ ddot{z} + omega_0^2 z = F_0e^{i(omega t + Delta)} enspace ,$



assuming an exponential solution : $alpha e^{ut + v}$



I find :



$z_p = alpha e^{ut + v} Leftrightarrow alpha u^2 e^{ut + v} + omega_0^2 alpha e^{ut + v} = F_0 e^{i(omega t + Delta)} $



$Leftrightarrow alpha e^{ut + v} = frac{F_0}{u^2 + omega_0^2} e^{i (omega t + Delta)}$



So $ z_p = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}[cos(omega t + Delta) + i sin(omega t + Delta)]$



and I end up with :



$x_p = Re[z_p] = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



But the book states that a particular solution is :



$ x_p(t) = frac{F_0/m}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



So where did the "m" come from ? Where did I go wrong ?










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    $begingroup$
    For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
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    – nicoguaro
    Sep 27 '14 at 16:50








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    $begingroup$
    Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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    Sep 27 '14 at 17:05
















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I have this differential equation :



$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = F_0cos(omega t + Delta)$ with $omega_0^2 = k/m enspace .$



I take the complex equation



$ ddot{z} + omega_0^2 z = F_0e^{i(omega t + Delta)} enspace ,$



assuming an exponential solution : $alpha e^{ut + v}$



I find :



$z_p = alpha e^{ut + v} Leftrightarrow alpha u^2 e^{ut + v} + omega_0^2 alpha e^{ut + v} = F_0 e^{i(omega t + Delta)} $



$Leftrightarrow alpha e^{ut + v} = frac{F_0}{u^2 + omega_0^2} e^{i (omega t + Delta)}$



So $ z_p = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}[cos(omega t + Delta) + i sin(omega t + Delta)]$



and I end up with :



$x_p = Re[z_p] = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



But the book states that a particular solution is :



$ x_p(t) = frac{F_0/m}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



So where did the "m" come from ? Where did I go wrong ?










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I have this differential equation :



$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = F_0cos(omega t + Delta)$ with $omega_0^2 = k/m enspace .$



I take the complex equation



$ ddot{z} + omega_0^2 z = F_0e^{i(omega t + Delta)} enspace ,$



assuming an exponential solution : $alpha e^{ut + v}$



I find :



$z_p = alpha e^{ut + v} Leftrightarrow alpha u^2 e^{ut + v} + omega_0^2 alpha e^{ut + v} = F_0 e^{i(omega t + Delta)} $



$Leftrightarrow alpha e^{ut + v} = frac{F_0}{u^2 + omega_0^2} e^{i (omega t + Delta)}$



So $ z_p = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}[cos(omega t + Delta) + i sin(omega t + Delta)]$



and I end up with :



$x_p = Re[z_p] = frac{F_0}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



But the book states that a particular solution is :



$ x_p(t) = frac{F_0/m}{omega_0^2 - omega^2}cos(omega t + Delta) $



So where did the "m" come from ? Where did I go wrong ?







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    For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
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    – nicoguaro
    Sep 27 '14 at 16:50








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    Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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    – achille hui
    Sep 27 '14 at 17:05
















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    $begingroup$
    For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
    $endgroup$
    – nicoguaro
    Sep 27 '14 at 16:50








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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    – achille hui
    Sep 27 '14 at 17:05










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For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
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– nicoguaro
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For me there is no $m$ in there, not even the units are consistent.
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– nicoguaro
Sep 27 '14 at 16:50






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$begingroup$
Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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– achille hui
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Your starting equation should be $$ddot{x} + omega_0^2x = color{red}{frac{F_0}{m}}cos(omega t + Delta)$$ You have get rid of the mass $m$ in LHS, you need to do that to the RHS too.
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The general one degree-of-freedom motion equation for the mass-spring system has the form



$mddot{x}+kx=F(t)$



Dividing this equation by $m$, we get



$ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=F(t)/m=f(t)$



where $omega_n^2=frac{k}{m}$



For harmonic excitation, $F(t)=F_0cos(omega t+Delta)$. In standard form, then



$ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=f_0cos(omega t+Delta)$



The particular answer to this differential equation is



$x_p(t) = frac{f_0}{omega_n^2-omega^2}cos(omega t+Delta)$



So it all depends on how you write your force function. Either your equation should be



$ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=frac{F_0}{m}cos(omega t+Delta)$



to get the same answer you are looking for, or, for the exact equation you typed, then your answer is absolutely correct.



This "divide or not by m" thing always confuses the students. You should pay attention to how you derive the equation of motion and its response in standard form (with the $omega_n$ parameter) or general form (with the $m$ and $k$ parameters).






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    $begingroup$

    The general one degree-of-freedom motion equation for the mass-spring system has the form



    $mddot{x}+kx=F(t)$



    Dividing this equation by $m$, we get



    $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=F(t)/m=f(t)$



    where $omega_n^2=frac{k}{m}$



    For harmonic excitation, $F(t)=F_0cos(omega t+Delta)$. In standard form, then



    $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=f_0cos(omega t+Delta)$



    The particular answer to this differential equation is



    $x_p(t) = frac{f_0}{omega_n^2-omega^2}cos(omega t+Delta)$



    So it all depends on how you write your force function. Either your equation should be



    $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=frac{F_0}{m}cos(omega t+Delta)$



    to get the same answer you are looking for, or, for the exact equation you typed, then your answer is absolutely correct.



    This "divide or not by m" thing always confuses the students. You should pay attention to how you derive the equation of motion and its response in standard form (with the $omega_n$ parameter) or general form (with the $m$ and $k$ parameters).






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      $begingroup$

      The general one degree-of-freedom motion equation for the mass-spring system has the form



      $mddot{x}+kx=F(t)$



      Dividing this equation by $m$, we get



      $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=F(t)/m=f(t)$



      where $omega_n^2=frac{k}{m}$



      For harmonic excitation, $F(t)=F_0cos(omega t+Delta)$. In standard form, then



      $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=f_0cos(omega t+Delta)$



      The particular answer to this differential equation is



      $x_p(t) = frac{f_0}{omega_n^2-omega^2}cos(omega t+Delta)$



      So it all depends on how you write your force function. Either your equation should be



      $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=frac{F_0}{m}cos(omega t+Delta)$



      to get the same answer you are looking for, or, for the exact equation you typed, then your answer is absolutely correct.



      This "divide or not by m" thing always confuses the students. You should pay attention to how you derive the equation of motion and its response in standard form (with the $omega_n$ parameter) or general form (with the $m$ and $k$ parameters).






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        $begingroup$

        The general one degree-of-freedom motion equation for the mass-spring system has the form



        $mddot{x}+kx=F(t)$



        Dividing this equation by $m$, we get



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=F(t)/m=f(t)$



        where $omega_n^2=frac{k}{m}$



        For harmonic excitation, $F(t)=F_0cos(omega t+Delta)$. In standard form, then



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=f_0cos(omega t+Delta)$



        The particular answer to this differential equation is



        $x_p(t) = frac{f_0}{omega_n^2-omega^2}cos(omega t+Delta)$



        So it all depends on how you write your force function. Either your equation should be



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=frac{F_0}{m}cos(omega t+Delta)$



        to get the same answer you are looking for, or, for the exact equation you typed, then your answer is absolutely correct.



        This "divide or not by m" thing always confuses the students. You should pay attention to how you derive the equation of motion and its response in standard form (with the $omega_n$ parameter) or general form (with the $m$ and $k$ parameters).






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        The general one degree-of-freedom motion equation for the mass-spring system has the form



        $mddot{x}+kx=F(t)$



        Dividing this equation by $m$, we get



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=F(t)/m=f(t)$



        where $omega_n^2=frac{k}{m}$



        For harmonic excitation, $F(t)=F_0cos(omega t+Delta)$. In standard form, then



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=f_0cos(omega t+Delta)$



        The particular answer to this differential equation is



        $x_p(t) = frac{f_0}{omega_n^2-omega^2}cos(omega t+Delta)$



        So it all depends on how you write your force function. Either your equation should be



        $ddot{x}+omega_n^2x=frac{F_0}{m}cos(omega t+Delta)$



        to get the same answer you are looking for, or, for the exact equation you typed, then your answer is absolutely correct.



        This "divide or not by m" thing always confuses the students. You should pay attention to how you derive the equation of motion and its response in standard form (with the $omega_n$ parameter) or general form (with the $m$ and $k$ parameters).







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