How to compute $BC$ in this triangle?












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Given the lengths of $AF$, $AE$, $AD$, $AC$, How can I calculate $BC$?



I tried to calculate $FD = sqrt{AF^2 - AD^2}$,



$DE = sqrt{AE^2 - AD^2}$,



$FE = DE + FD$,



$FC = AC - AF$.



But I don't know what I can do with all these lengths to compute $BC$. Any hints are appreciated.










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    Given the lengths of $AF$, $AE$, $AD$, $AC$, How can I calculate $BC$?



    I tried to calculate $FD = sqrt{AF^2 - AD^2}$,



    $DE = sqrt{AE^2 - AD^2}$,



    $FE = DE + FD$,



    $FC = AC - AF$.



    But I don't know what I can do with all these lengths to compute $BC$. Any hints are appreciated.










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      Given the lengths of $AF$, $AE$, $AD$, $AC$, How can I calculate $BC$?



      I tried to calculate $FD = sqrt{AF^2 - AD^2}$,



      $DE = sqrt{AE^2 - AD^2}$,



      $FE = DE + FD$,



      $FC = AC - AF$.



      But I don't know what I can do with all these lengths to compute $BC$. Any hints are appreciated.










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      Given the lengths of $AF$, $AE$, $AD$, $AC$, How can I calculate $BC$?



      I tried to calculate $FD = sqrt{AF^2 - AD^2}$,



      $DE = sqrt{AE^2 - AD^2}$,



      $FE = DE + FD$,



      $FC = AC - AF$.



      But I don't know what I can do with all these lengths to compute $BC$. Any hints are appreciated.







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          Let $alpha= angle_{FAD}$, $beta= angle_{EAD}$.
          Then you are given $cosalpha= AD/AF$, and similarly $cosbeta$.
          You can now compute $cos (alpha+beta)$.
          As $alpha+beta = angle_{CAB}$, you have the hypothenuse $AB$ of the right triangle $ABC$.
          You can finish the calculation now.






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            $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
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            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16










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            Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
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          Trigonometry is the way to go.



          We know everything about triangles $ADF$ and $ADE$. That means we know $angle FAD$ and $angle DAE$. From that, we know their sum, $angle FAE=angle CAB$. That's enough to figure out everything we need about the big triangle.






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            Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
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            – Mohamed Magdy
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:20










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            No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
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            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:21










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            No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
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            Dec 29 '18 at 9:22












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          $begingroup$

          Let $alpha= angle_{FAD}$, $beta= angle_{EAD}$.
          Then you are given $cosalpha= AD/AF$, and similarly $cosbeta$.
          You can now compute $cos (alpha+beta)$.
          As $alpha+beta = angle_{CAB}$, you have the hypothenuse $AB$ of the right triangle $ABC$.
          You can finish the calculation now.






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          • $begingroup$
            $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
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            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – A. Pongrácz
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16
















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          $begingroup$

          Let $alpha= angle_{FAD}$, $beta= angle_{EAD}$.
          Then you are given $cosalpha= AD/AF$, and similarly $cosbeta$.
          You can now compute $cos (alpha+beta)$.
          As $alpha+beta = angle_{CAB}$, you have the hypothenuse $AB$ of the right triangle $ABC$.
          You can finish the calculation now.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – A. Pongrácz
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16














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          $begingroup$

          Let $alpha= angle_{FAD}$, $beta= angle_{EAD}$.
          Then you are given $cosalpha= AD/AF$, and similarly $cosbeta$.
          You can now compute $cos (alpha+beta)$.
          As $alpha+beta = angle_{CAB}$, you have the hypothenuse $AB$ of the right triangle $ABC$.
          You can finish the calculation now.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Let $alpha= angle_{FAD}$, $beta= angle_{EAD}$.
          Then you are given $cosalpha= AD/AF$, and similarly $cosbeta$.
          You can now compute $cos (alpha+beta)$.
          As $alpha+beta = angle_{CAB}$, you have the hypothenuse $AB$ of the right triangle $ABC$.
          You can finish the calculation now.







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          answered Dec 29 '18 at 9:14









          A. PongráczA. Pongrácz

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          • $begingroup$
            $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – A. Pongrácz
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16


















          • $begingroup$
            $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16










          • $begingroup$
            Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
            $endgroup$
            – A. Pongrácz
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:16
















          $begingroup$
          $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
          $endgroup$
          – jmerry
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:16




          $begingroup$
          $D$ isn't on an angle bisector in general.
          $endgroup$
          – jmerry
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:16












          $begingroup$
          Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
          $endgroup$
          – A. Pongrácz
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:16




          $begingroup$
          Yes, I realized it. Thank you!
          $endgroup$
          – A. Pongrácz
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:16











          0












          $begingroup$

          Trigonometry is the way to go.



          We know everything about triangles $ADF$ and $ADE$. That means we know $angle FAD$ and $angle DAE$. From that, we know their sum, $angle FAE=angle CAB$. That's enough to figure out everything we need about the big triangle.






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            Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
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            – Mohamed Magdy
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:20










          • $begingroup$
            No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:21










          • $begingroup$
            No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
            $endgroup$
            – user376343
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:22
















          0












          $begingroup$

          Trigonometry is the way to go.



          We know everything about triangles $ADF$ and $ADE$. That means we know $angle FAD$ and $angle DAE$. From that, we know their sum, $angle FAE=angle CAB$. That's enough to figure out everything we need about the big triangle.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
            $endgroup$
            – Mohamed Magdy
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:20










          • $begingroup$
            No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:21










          • $begingroup$
            No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
            $endgroup$
            – user376343
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:22














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          $begingroup$

          Trigonometry is the way to go.



          We know everything about triangles $ADF$ and $ADE$. That means we know $angle FAD$ and $angle DAE$. From that, we know their sum, $angle FAE=angle CAB$. That's enough to figure out everything we need about the big triangle.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          Trigonometry is the way to go.



          We know everything about triangles $ADF$ and $ADE$. That means we know $angle FAD$ and $angle DAE$. From that, we know their sum, $angle FAE=angle CAB$. That's enough to figure out everything we need about the big triangle.







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          answered Dec 29 '18 at 9:15









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          • $begingroup$
            Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
            $endgroup$
            – Mohamed Magdy
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:20










          • $begingroup$
            No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:21










          • $begingroup$
            No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
            $endgroup$
            – user376343
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:22


















          • $begingroup$
            Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
            $endgroup$
            – Mohamed Magdy
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:20










          • $begingroup$
            No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
            $endgroup$
            – jmerry
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:21










          • $begingroup$
            No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
            $endgroup$
            – user376343
            Dec 29 '18 at 9:22
















          $begingroup$
          Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
          $endgroup$
          – Mohamed Magdy
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:20




          $begingroup$
          Should I use similarity to figure out $AB$?
          $endgroup$
          – Mohamed Magdy
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:20












          $begingroup$
          No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
          $endgroup$
          – jmerry
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:21




          $begingroup$
          No, because the big triangle isn't similar to anything else in the picture. Use trigonometry; there will be an angle-sum formula in there.
          $endgroup$
          – jmerry
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:21












          $begingroup$
          No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
          $endgroup$
          – user376343
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:22




          $begingroup$
          No @Mohamed because it is not said that some of triangles are similar.
          $endgroup$
          – user376343
          Dec 29 '18 at 9:22


















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