If derivative goes to $0$, does the function have a limit?
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Let $f:mathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$ be a differentiable function. Assume that $lim_{xtoinfty}f'(x)=0$, does that mean that $lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)$ exists?
PS. What if we assume that $f$ is also bounded?
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Let $f:mathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$ be a differentiable function. Assume that $lim_{xtoinfty}f'(x)=0$, does that mean that $lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)$ exists?
PS. What if we assume that $f$ is also bounded?
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 29 '18 at 1:37
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Let $f:mathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$ be a differentiable function. Assume that $lim_{xtoinfty}f'(x)=0$, does that mean that $lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)$ exists?
PS. What if we assume that $f$ is also bounded?
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Let $f:mathbb{R}tomathbb{R}$ be a differentiable function. Assume that $lim_{xtoinfty}f'(x)=0$, does that mean that $lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)$ exists?
PS. What if we assume that $f$ is also bounded?
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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– Paramanand Singh
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 29 '18 at 1:37
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 29 '18 at 1:37
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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Not necessarily. Consider $f(x)=sin(ln(x))$. Then $f'(x)=frac1xcos(ln(x))to0$, but $f(x)$ diverges, as it reaches $-1$ and $1$ infinitely often.
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Not necessarily. See $f(x)=ln x$:
$$lim_{xto infty}f'(x)=lim_{xtoinfty}frac 1 x=0$$
$$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)=+infty$$
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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No. Consider the function defined by cos(x) on [0,2pi], cos((x/2)-pi) on [2pi,6pi] and so on.
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No.
Consider $lim_{ttoinfty}f'(t)=0$
and
$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)-f(a)=lim_{xtoinfty}int_{a}^{x}f'(t)dt$ and $ageq0$.
In this case, that integral converges if $f(a)$ exists for all $ageq0$. for example the function $f(x)=ln x$ doesn't satisfy that condition.
And if that integral converges, the limit exists.
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Not necessarily. Consider $f(x)=sin(ln(x))$. Then $f'(x)=frac1xcos(ln(x))to0$, but $f(x)$ diverges, as it reaches $-1$ and $1$ infinitely often.
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Not necessarily. Consider $f(x)=sin(ln(x))$. Then $f'(x)=frac1xcos(ln(x))to0$, but $f(x)$ diverges, as it reaches $-1$ and $1$ infinitely often.
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Not necessarily. Consider $f(x)=sin(ln(x))$. Then $f'(x)=frac1xcos(ln(x))to0$, but $f(x)$ diverges, as it reaches $-1$ and $1$ infinitely often.
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Not necessarily. Consider $f(x)=sin(ln(x))$. Then $f'(x)=frac1xcos(ln(x))to0$, but $f(x)$ diverges, as it reaches $-1$ and $1$ infinitely often.
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Not necessarily. See $f(x)=ln x$:
$$lim_{xto infty}f'(x)=lim_{xtoinfty}frac 1 x=0$$
$$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)=+infty$$
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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Not necessarily. See $f(x)=ln x$:
$$lim_{xto infty}f'(x)=lim_{xtoinfty}frac 1 x=0$$
$$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)=+infty$$
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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Not necessarily. See $f(x)=ln x$:
$$lim_{xto infty}f'(x)=lim_{xtoinfty}frac 1 x=0$$
$$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)=+infty$$
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Not necessarily. See $f(x)=ln x$:
$$lim_{xto infty}f'(x)=lim_{xtoinfty}frac 1 x=0$$
$$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)=+infty$$
answered Dec 28 '18 at 22:59
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:01
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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ah ok my bad. I missed this example. I wonder what if $f$ is also bounded.
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– David Lingard
Dec 28 '18 at 23:00
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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Maybe I should edit the question and add $f$ bounded.
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No. Consider the function defined by cos(x) on [0,2pi], cos((x/2)-pi) on [2pi,6pi] and so on.
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No. Consider the function defined by cos(x) on [0,2pi], cos((x/2)-pi) on [2pi,6pi] and so on.
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No. Consider the function defined by cos(x) on [0,2pi], cos((x/2)-pi) on [2pi,6pi] and so on.
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No. Consider the function defined by cos(x) on [0,2pi], cos((x/2)-pi) on [2pi,6pi] and so on.
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No.
Consider $lim_{ttoinfty}f'(t)=0$
and
$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)-f(a)=lim_{xtoinfty}int_{a}^{x}f'(t)dt$ and $ageq0$.
In this case, that integral converges if $f(a)$ exists for all $ageq0$. for example the function $f(x)=ln x$ doesn't satisfy that condition.
And if that integral converges, the limit exists.
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No.
Consider $lim_{ttoinfty}f'(t)=0$
and
$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)-f(a)=lim_{xtoinfty}int_{a}^{x}f'(t)dt$ and $ageq0$.
In this case, that integral converges if $f(a)$ exists for all $ageq0$. for example the function $f(x)=ln x$ doesn't satisfy that condition.
And if that integral converges, the limit exists.
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No.
Consider $lim_{ttoinfty}f'(t)=0$
and
$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)-f(a)=lim_{xtoinfty}int_{a}^{x}f'(t)dt$ and $ageq0$.
In this case, that integral converges if $f(a)$ exists for all $ageq0$. for example the function $f(x)=ln x$ doesn't satisfy that condition.
And if that integral converges, the limit exists.
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No.
Consider $lim_{ttoinfty}f'(t)=0$
and
$lim_{xtoinfty}f(x)-f(a)=lim_{xtoinfty}int_{a}^{x}f'(t)dt$ and $ageq0$.
In this case, that integral converges if $f(a)$ exists for all $ageq0$. for example the function $f(x)=ln x$ doesn't satisfy that condition.
And if that integral converges, the limit exists.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 1:18
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By L'Hospital's Rule we get $f(x) /xto 0$ and that's the best we can conclude here.
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– Paramanand Singh
Dec 29 '18 at 1:37