Probability Question And, Or, and Bivariates
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I feel like this is a basic question, but I'm having trouble justifying a property. I have the following result (simplified for the post) which I am trying to get an intuitive understanding for:
$P(|A+B| > c) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I believe that this is true but am having trouble working it out.
I can see why $P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I guess my question is, is the step I am missing:
$P(|A+B| > c) = P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2)$
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I feel like this is a basic question, but I'm having trouble justifying a property. I have the following result (simplified for the post) which I am trying to get an intuitive understanding for:
$P(|A+B| > c) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I believe that this is true but am having trouble working it out.
I can see why $P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I guess my question is, is the step I am missing:
$P(|A+B| > c) = P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2)$
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I feel like this is a basic question, but I'm having trouble justifying a property. I have the following result (simplified for the post) which I am trying to get an intuitive understanding for:
$P(|A+B| > c) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I believe that this is true but am having trouble working it out.
I can see why $P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I guess my question is, is the step I am missing:
$P(|A+B| > c) = P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2)$
probability probability-theory probability-distributions
I feel like this is a basic question, but I'm having trouble justifying a property. I have the following result (simplified for the post) which I am trying to get an intuitive understanding for:
$P(|A+B| > c) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I believe that this is true but am having trouble working it out.
I can see why $P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2) leq P(|A|>c/2) +P(|B|>c/2)$
I guess my question is, is the step I am missing:
$P(|A+B| > c) = P(|A|>c/2, |B|>c/2)$
probability probability-theory probability-distributions
probability probability-theory probability-distributions
asked Nov 18 at 21:34
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Some possible steps (there are other routes):
- the triangle inequality gives $|A+B| le |A|+|B|$
- addition gives $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A|+|B| le c$
- so $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A+B| le c$
- with the contrapositive $|A+B| > c implies |A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2$
- leading to $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2)$
- while $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) = mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2) - mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { and } |B|>c/2)$ by inclusion-exclusion
- dropping a term gives $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2)$
- and combining these gives $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2).$
You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
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1 Answer
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1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Some possible steps (there are other routes):
- the triangle inequality gives $|A+B| le |A|+|B|$
- addition gives $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A|+|B| le c$
- so $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A+B| le c$
- with the contrapositive $|A+B| > c implies |A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2$
- leading to $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2)$
- while $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) = mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2) - mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { and } |B|>c/2)$ by inclusion-exclusion
- dropping a term gives $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2)$
- and combining these gives $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2).$
You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Some possible steps (there are other routes):
- the triangle inequality gives $|A+B| le |A|+|B|$
- addition gives $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A|+|B| le c$
- so $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A+B| le c$
- with the contrapositive $|A+B| > c implies |A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2$
- leading to $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2)$
- while $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) = mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2) - mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { and } |B|>c/2)$ by inclusion-exclusion
- dropping a term gives $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2)$
- and combining these gives $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2).$
You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
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up vote
0
down vote
accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
Some possible steps (there are other routes):
- the triangle inequality gives $|A+B| le |A|+|B|$
- addition gives $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A|+|B| le c$
- so $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A+B| le c$
- with the contrapositive $|A+B| > c implies |A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2$
- leading to $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2)$
- while $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) = mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2) - mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { and } |B|>c/2)$ by inclusion-exclusion
- dropping a term gives $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2)$
- and combining these gives $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2).$
Some possible steps (there are other routes):
- the triangle inequality gives $|A+B| le |A|+|B|$
- addition gives $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A|+|B| le c$
- so $|A| le c/2 text { and } |B| le c/2 implies |A+B| le c$
- with the contrapositive $|A+B| > c implies |A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2$
- leading to $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2)$
- while $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) = mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2) - mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { and } |B|>c/2)$ by inclusion-exclusion
- dropping a term gives $mathbb P(|A|>c/2 text { or } |B|>c/2) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2)$
- and combining these gives $mathbb P(|A+B| > c) le mathbb P(|A|>c/2) + mathbb P(|B|>c/2).$
answered Nov 18 at 21:59
Henry
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You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
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You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
You are awesome. Super helpful
– kpr62
Nov 18 at 22:14
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