Using (rigid) Origami moves only, what is the maximum volume that can be enclosed by a square piece of paper?











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What is the maximum volume that can be enclosed by folding a square piece of paper (with side length $ell$) using only (rigid) Origami moves?




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I found this, but it's not very helpful because it doesn't give a specific volume and I can't find the paper it references.



It's not a question I think I can answer myself. I have no formal training in Origami and know very little about it.



I'm guessing the shape is just a cube but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Please help :)










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    It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
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    Nov 18 at 19:17








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    The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:31






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    yes, it is that book.
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    Nov 18 at 19:41






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    that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:50






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    The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
    – Rahul
    Nov 19 at 5:23

















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Motivation:



This is inspired by this question.



The Question:




What is the maximum volume that can be enclosed by folding a square piece of paper (with side length $ell$) using only (rigid) Origami moves?




Thoughts:



I found this, but it's not very helpful because it doesn't give a specific volume and I can't find the paper it references.



It's not a question I think I can answer myself. I have no formal training in Origami and know very little about it.



I'm guessing the shape is just a cube but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Please help :)










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  • 1




    It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
    – Rahul
    Nov 18 at 19:17








  • 1




    The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:31






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    yes, it is that book.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:41






  • 1




    that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:50






  • 1




    The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
    – Rahul
    Nov 19 at 5:23















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Motivation:



This is inspired by this question.



The Question:




What is the maximum volume that can be enclosed by folding a square piece of paper (with side length $ell$) using only (rigid) Origami moves?




Thoughts:



I found this, but it's not very helpful because it doesn't give a specific volume and I can't find the paper it references.



It's not a question I think I can answer myself. I have no formal training in Origami and know very little about it.



I'm guessing the shape is just a cube but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Please help :)










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Motivation:



This is inspired by this question.



The Question:




What is the maximum volume that can be enclosed by folding a square piece of paper (with side length $ell$) using only (rigid) Origami moves?




Thoughts:



I found this, but it's not very helpful because it doesn't give a specific volume and I can't find the paper it references.



It's not a question I think I can answer myself. I have no formal training in Origami and know very little about it.



I'm guessing the shape is just a cube but I'm not sure how to prove that.



Please help :)







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    It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
    – Rahul
    Nov 18 at 19:17








  • 1




    The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:31






  • 1




    yes, it is that book.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:41






  • 1




    that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:50






  • 1




    The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
    – Rahul
    Nov 19 at 5:23
















  • 1




    It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
    – Rahul
    Nov 18 at 19:17








  • 1




    The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:31






  • 1




    yes, it is that book.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:41






  • 1




    that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
    – achille hui
    Nov 18 at 19:50






  • 1




    The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
    – Rahul
    Nov 19 at 5:23










1




1




It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
– Rahul
Nov 18 at 19:17






It seems you want a closed (convex?) polyhedron whereas the linked question concerns an open "dish". If so, see Alexander, Dyson, and O'Rourke, "The Foldings of a Square to Convex Polyhedra, 2002.
– Rahul
Nov 18 at 19:17






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1




The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:31




The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60$% of the volume of a unit-area sphere.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:31




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1




yes, it is that book.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:41




yes, it is that book.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:41




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1




that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:50




that result is for a unit square. i.e. $ell = 1$.
– achille hui
Nov 18 at 19:50




1




1




The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
– Rahul
Nov 19 at 5:23






The same result is included in the paper I linked to (Joseph O'Rourke is a coauthor of both), and the paper is freely available via O'Rourke's webpage.
– Rahul
Nov 19 at 5:23












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The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60%$ of the volume of a unit-area sphere.




This is by achille hui, Nov 18 at 19:31.






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    I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
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  • Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
    – Shaun
    2 days ago










  • In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
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The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60%$ of the volume of a unit-area sphere.




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    I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
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The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60%$ of the volume of a unit-area sphere.




This is by achille hui, Nov 18 at 19:31.






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  • @achillehui, I'll leave this here until you post the answer yourself.
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    Nov 24 at 3:38






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    I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
    – achille hui
    2 days ago










  • Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
    – Shaun
    2 days ago










  • In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
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The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60%$ of the volume of a unit-area sphere.




This is by achille hui, Nov 18 at 19:31.






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The ref it pointed to is a book (I've a hard copy of that). In the book, it say the volume is about $0.056$ which is about $60%$ of the volume of a unit-area sphere.




This is by achille hui, Nov 18 at 19:31.







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    I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
    – achille hui
    2 days ago










  • Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
    – Shaun
    2 days ago










  • In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
    – Shaun
    2 days ago








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    Tagging a general user won't work. The system will only notify the user if he/she has interacted with a page before.
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  • @achillehui, I'll leave this here until you post the answer yourself.
    – Shaun
    Nov 24 at 3:38






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    I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
    – achille hui
    2 days ago










  • Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
    – Shaun
    2 days ago










  • In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
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@achillehui, I'll leave this here until you post the answer yourself.
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@achillehui, I'll leave this here until you post the answer yourself.
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I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
– achille hui
2 days ago




I won't post any answer. Joseph O'Rourke is a user on math.SE. If he ever see this question, he can provide an answer with much more details...
– achille hui
2 days ago












Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
– Shaun
2 days ago




Well, until that day, @achillehui, this answer should suffice.
– Shaun
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In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
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In fact, here's a tag for @JosephO'Rouke. I hope he doesn't mind this comment $ddotsmile$.
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